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* ''[[Ben 10: Alien Force|Ben 10 Alien Force]]'' was [[Contested Sequel|contested as is]], but its third and final season, featuring an ungodly [[Villain Decay|villain decayed]] Vilgax as the [[Big Bad]], is considered much weaker than the first two, which both shared the Highbreed arc. [[Ben 10: Ultimate Alien]], on the other hand, got the Seasonal Rot going in its ''second'' season, with tons of filler episodes, characters further acting like idiots, and a convoluted main arc plot involving the Forever Knights which, after Season 1's menacing main threat, just can't measure up. Its last episodes fortunately corrected in later episodes, as said arc turned to also involve an [[Eldritch Abomination]] and Vilgax turning back into an actually dangerous, [[Manipulative Bastard]] villain.
* Season 7 of ''[[Family Guy]]'', due to the amount of episodes [[Anvilicious|focused]] [[Writer on Board|on]] [[Author Avatar|Brian's political views]], as well as a few terrible episode premises (i.e. "Not All Dogs Go To Heaven"), massive [[Flanderization]] of the whole main cast (i.e. Peter's reckless behavior in "Baby Not on Board"), and, of course, [[Non Sequitur Scene|a five-minute long Conway Twitty cutaway]]. Part of the reason behind the seasonal rot can be attributed to the 2007-2008 WGA strike that plunged a lot of shows into getting canceled, going on hiatus, or suffering through seasonal rot.
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** Season 4 is generally considered to be the start of the decline. However, most fans still consider this season to be good. In fact, a few even consider it part of the show's "Golden Age".
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**While Season 5 is generally considered to be decent, there are some episodes that didn't go over well with fans, like "Fungus Among Us", "Atlantis SquarePantis" and "Whatever Happened to SpongeBob?"
**Season 6 gets a lot of flak, due to massive flanderization of the main characters, an overuse of gross-out humor ("The Splinter" is a prime example) and is the first season where the bad episodes outnumber the good ones.
**Season 7 is considered to be the peak of the decline, due to having two of the most hated episodes of the series, "A Pal for Gary" and "One Coarse Meal", the writing becoming extremly mean-spirited and having a ton of other episodes that are memorable for the wrong reasons.
** Season 8 gets a lot of flak as well, due to having a lot of weak, forgettable and underwhelming episodes. However, some consider this season to be a slight improvement over Seasons 6 and 7, due to some better writing and a few less bad episodes.
** The decline finally got reverted in Season 9, especially when Stephen Hillenburg returned as showrunner for the second half of the season after the release of the second movie.
*Chris Savino's run of ''[[Dexter's Laboratory]]'' (seasons 3 and 4) and ''[[The Powerpuff Girls]]'' (seasons 5 and 6) were heavily criticized by fans due to the fact that these seasons made [[Executive Meddling|without the original creators]] after the shows were [[Uncancelled]] due to boring plots, ungodly amounts of [[Flanderization]], and a really unfitting art style. Plus, with ''Dexter's Laboratory'', they got rid of the Justice Friends and Dial M for Monkey segments.
*Fans of ''[[The Simpsons]]'' have wildly varying opinions on when the show went downhill. The first 8 seasons are generally considered to be the best, but the following seasons have a [[Broken Base]] among fans.
* Fans of ''[[The Simpsons]]'' have wildly varying opinions on which seasons were good and which ones sucked, but you will find very few supporters of Season 11.<ref>(For reference, this is the season that killed off Maude Flanders, had Barney give up drinking, made Apu and Manjula the parents of octuplets, and presented whimsically self-referential episodes like "Saddlesore Galactica", "Missionary: Impossible", and "Behind the Laughter".)</ref> It was, for lack of a better way to put it, sort of the bridge between "Old Simpsons" and "New Simpsons"—for fans of the former, it was the season that killed the satirical, yet heartwarming humor of ''[[The Simpsons]]'' in favor of being a [[Lighter and Softer]] (yet still wacky and crude) ''[[Family Guy]]'' clone. For fans of the latter, it was an uncomfortable in-between season which was trying way too hard to decide whether it should go back to being the way it was in its early days or go in a new direction. To this day, it's ''still'' trying to decide.
**Some pinpoint Season 9 and/or Season 10 as when the show went downhill, due to Mike Scully taking over as showrunner and the infamous episode "The Principal and the Pauper". However, others still consider Seasons 9 and 10 to be part of the show's "Golden Age".
* While ''[[Futurama]]'' is consistently good, it has an in-universe example in the form of ''Everybody Loves [[The Hypnotoad|Hypnotoad]]'', which has been going downhill since season three.<ref>according to someone immune to the mind control which is its main draw, anyway</ref>
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** Fans of ''[[Show Within a Show|All My Circuits]]'' are also split about Bender's run as Calculon's son. Younger viewers loved his [[Do Not Do This Cool Thing|glamorizing views on smoking and burglary]] while parents despised him as an [[Moral Guardians|antisocial rolemodel]].
**Season 13 is considered to be somewhat of an improvement by some, due to Al Jean replacing Mike Scully as showrunner. However, this is still a debatable topic as some conmsider Season 13 and the following seasons to be worse than Seasons 11 and 12.
** Futurama itself is considered by many to be going through this in seasons five and six, ever since it resumed airing new episodes on [[Comedy Central]].
** A number of fans feel that the show hit a new low when it transitioned to HD in the second half of Season 20, due to a downgrade in humor and a large amount of weak and forgettable episodes. However, Season 32 has shown some improvement, due to funnier and more clever writing, more well-received episodes and even containing some references to the earlier seasons.
* ''[[Teen Titans (animation)|Teen Titans]]'' fans generally consider Season 3 to be this, since they changed the [[Big Bad]] from the awesomely creepy Slade, who was Robin's archrival but still had personal beef with the rest of the Titans, to Brother Blood, who started off perfectly menacing but spiralled into [[Villain Decay]] quickly, and had limited interaction with any of the Titans besides Cyborg, and having a weak story that only got two episodes and a two-part finale worth of exposure.
* While ''[[Futurama]]'' is consistently good, it has an in-universe example in the form of ''Everybody Loves [[The Hypnotoad|Hypnotoad]]'', which has been going downhill since season three.<ref>according to someone immune to the mind control which is its main draw, anyway</ref>
** And, to a lesser extent, Season 5, probably due to it coming directly after the extremely well-received Season 4. It's still generally accepted, though, mainly due to its awesome [[Grand Finale]] (the two-part final battle, ''not'' the [[Broken Base|controversial]] actual last episode.)
** Fans of ''[[Show Within a Show|All My Circuits]]'' are also split about Bender's run as Calculon's son. Younger viewers loved his [[Do Not Do This Cool Thing|glamorizing views on smoking and burglary]] while parents despised him as an [[Moral Guardians|antisocial rolemodel]].
* To some, season two of ''[[X-Men: Evolution]]'' is this, thought YMMV. Over focus on romantic side plots, less focus on their battles and less action. Thought the ending managed to fix that by revealing [[The Masquerade]], leading to it [[Growing the Beard]] in Season 3.
** Futurama itself is considered by many to be going through this in seasons five and six, ever since it resumed airing new episodes on [[Comedy Central]].
* Even the most staunch of its fans will admit that so far, season 5 of ''[[Robot Chicken]]'' has been complete and utter garbage. Apparently, it's not enough to deter the execs, who have already ordered a season 6 against the wishes of many people who would rather see that time and effort put towards a second season of ''[[Titan Maximum]]'', the show Seth Green unceremoniously self-cancelled to increase his focus on ''Chicken''.
* ''[[Teen Titans (animation)|Teen Titans]]'' fans generally consider Season 3 to be this, since they changed the [[Big Bad]] from the awesomely creepy Slade, who was Robin's archrival but still had personal beef with the rest of the Titans, to Brother Blood, who started off perfectly menacing but spiralled into [[Villain Decay]] quickly, and had limited interaction with any of the Titans besides Cyborg, and having a weak story that only got two episodes and a two-part finale worth of exposure.
* During the third and fourth seasons of ''[[KaBlam!]]'', the production company for ''Sniz & Fondue'' went bankrupt and more one-shot shorts were produced, with mixed to negative receptions among the fandom, though the remaining regular shorts were claimed to be even better that season.
** And, to a lesser extent, Season 5, probably due to it coming directly after the extremely well-received Season 4. It's still generally accepted, though, mainly due to its awesome [[Grand Finale]] (the two-part final battle, ''not'' the [[Broken Base|controversial]] actual last episode.)
* ''[[Phineas and Ferb]]'' is still popular, though there are many people who think that the show's quality has been going downhill during Season 3.
* To some, season two of ''[[X-Men: Evolution]]'' is this, thought YMMV. Over focus on romantic side plots, less focus on their battles and less action. Thought the ending managed to fix that by revealing [[The Masquerade]], leading to it [[Growing the Beard]] in Season 3.
** More accurately, the episodes from the middle of the third season just haven't been as good as episodes from the second season and the first half of the third. That said, the show is still quite good - it just seems to have peaked in quality sometime around the [[Big Damn Movie]], ''[[Phineas and Ferb The Movie: Across the 2nd Dimension]]''.
* Even the most staunch of its fans will admit that so far, season 5 of ''[[Robot Chicken]]'' has been complete and utter garbage. Apparently, it's not enough to deter the execs, who have already ordered a season 6 against the wishes of many people who would rather see that time and effort put towards a second season of ''[[Titan Maximum]]'', the show Seth Green unceremoniously self-cancelled to increase his focus on ''Chicken''.
* During the third and fourth seasons of ''[[KaBlam!]]'', the production company for ''Sniz & Fondue'' went bankrupt and more one-shot shorts were produced, with mixed to negative receptions among the fandom, though the remaining regular shorts were claimed to be even better that season.
* ''[[Phineas and Ferb]]'' is still popular, though there are many people who think that the show's quality has been going downhill during Season 3.
** More accurately, the episodes from the middle of the third season just haven't been as good as episodes from the second season and the first half of the third. That said, the show is still quite good - it just seems to have peaked in quality sometime around the [[Big Damn Movie]], ''[[Phineas and Ferb The Movie: Across the 2nd Dimension]]''.
 
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