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* [[Did Not Do the Research]]: For a series [[Shown Their Work|usually good for this]], there are sometimes some glaring errors on the [[Needs More Love|less historically popular creatures]]. For example [[Shapeshifting Lover|sel]][[Celtic Mythology|kies]] were misspelled as "Silky" and given the house spirit backstory of brownies. Yet they appeared as themselves in the [[Devil Children]] games so at least [[Atlus]] retcons its mistakes.
* [[Did Not Do the Research]]: For a series [[Shown Their Work|usually good for this]], there are sometimes some glaring errors on the [[Needs More Love|less historically popular creatures]]. For example [[Shapeshifting Lover|sel]][[Celtic Mythology|kies]] were misspelled as "Silky" and given the house spirit backstory of brownies. Yet they appeared as themselves in the [[Devil Children]] games so at least [[Atlus]] retcons its mistakes.
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]] - There is ''nothing'' wrong with liking Chaos. Remember, though - that's the side that, while wanting to preserve Humanity, was the one to put the [[Moral Event Horizon|Z-Class]] [[Apocalypse How]] on the table and desires a Social Darwinst world with no restraint whatsoever. Just saying.
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]] - There is ''nothing'' wrong with liking Chaos. Remember, though - that's the side that, while wanting to preserve Humanity, was the one to put the [[Moral Event Horizon|Z-Class]] [[Apocalypse How]] on the table and desires a Social Darwinst world with no restraint whatsoever. Just saying.
** It really depends on the game rather than those two being the only options. Chaos is portrayed far more positively in Devil Summoner 2 {{spoiler|Lucifer and his manipulations aside}} and not every game wants a world of Social Darwinism. Not to mention the [[Sadistic Choice|choice is between a Z-Class or endless cycle of X-Class]] [[Apocalypse How]] till all of humanity's free will is taken away by [[God Is Evil|God]].
** It really depends on the game rather than those two being the only options. Chaos is portrayed far more positively in Devil Summoner 2 {{spoiler|Lucifer and his manipulations aside}} and not every game wants a world of Social Darwinism. Not to mention the [[Sadistic Choice|choice is between a Z-Class or endless cycle of X-Class]] [[Apocalypse How]] till all of humanity's free will is taken away by [[God Is Evil|God]].
** If you were wondering what the above spoiler means, {{spoiler|it refers to the fact that Lucifer tricks a young man, trying to save his friend, into kick-starting the apocalypse. Just for Lucifer's amusement.}}
** If you were wondering what the above spoiler means, {{spoiler|it refers to the fact that Lucifer tricks a young man, trying to save his friend, into kick-starting the apocalypse. Just for Lucifer's amusement.}}
* [[Fridge Horror]]: It's [[Word of God|been explained]] that God is not the source of all evil in the series, and that something in the Universe is causing God to be Evil. Okay, um, what could be ''so'' ''evil'' that it makes God (y'know, the guy who made ''everything'') evil?
* [[Fridge Horror]]: It's [[Word of God|been explained]] that God is not the source of all evil in the series, and that something in the Universe is causing God to be Evil. Okay, um, what could be ''so'' ''evil'' that it makes God (y'know, the guy who made ''everything'') evil?
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** ''Devil Survivor'' takes it [[Up to Eleven]] by adding the -dyne suffix. As if Megidolaon wasn't bad enough, {{spoiler|[[Bonus Boss]] Lucifer}} can drop Megidoladyne on the ''entire map''. And did I mention that it gets 50% more powerful with each hit?
** ''Devil Survivor'' takes it [[Up to Eleven]] by adding the -dyne suffix. As if Megidolaon wasn't bad enough, {{spoiler|[[Bonus Boss]] Lucifer}} can drop Megidoladyne on the ''entire map''. And did I mention that it gets 50% more powerful with each hit?
*** Then others like Strange Journey throws fuel on the fire by planting new spells in that are of the same type. Thought Megidolaon was awesome? Add in Big Bang which is even more powerful by a good 200 points. Then we have Babylon Goblet which has a chance to charm. Good luck recovering from that. And god forbid you get the eponymous JIHAD because not only is it one of the strongest spells in the game, but it also LOWERS THEIR STATS TOO. But to be fair while you have those, you can bet your opponent has even better shit than you.
*** Then others like Strange Journey throws fuel on the fire by planting new spells in that are of the same type. Thought Megidolaon was awesome? Add in Big Bang which is even more powerful by a good 200 points. Then we have Babylon Goblet which has a chance to charm. Good luck recovering from that. And god forbid you get the eponymous JIHAD because not only is it one of the strongest spells in the game, but it also LOWERS THEIR STATS TOO. But to be fair while you have those, you can bet your opponent has even better shit than you.
* [[That One Boss]]: [[Wake Up Call Boss|Matador]] and Mot in Nocturne, the golden metal trio in Persona 2, Intrepid Knight in Persona 3, anyone in Digital Devil Saga with the second boss theme and probably a few more. Of course, if you don't use all of the options that are available to you like ailment inducing ammo, buff and debuff skills, buff and debuff cancelling skill, healing skills, elemental and ailments immunity to at least some of the bosses attacks, then expect lot of bosses to suddenly turn into [[Nintendo Hard]] [[That One Boss]]. You know what, let's just tell you we have [[That One Boss/Atlus|ThatOneBoss/Atlus]] (where Shin Megami Tensei makes up most of the article) and leave it at that.
* [[That One Boss]]: [["Wake-Up Call" Boss|Matador]] and Mot in Nocturne, the golden metal trio in Persona 2, Intrepid Knight in Persona 3, anyone in Digital Devil Saga with the second boss theme and probably a few more. Of course, if you don't use all of the options that are available to you like ailment inducing ammo, buff and debuff skills, buff and debuff cancelling skill, healing skills, elemental and ailments immunity to at least some of the bosses attacks, then expect lot of bosses to suddenly turn into [[Nintendo Hard]] [[That One Boss]]. You know what, let's just tell you we have [[That One Boss/Atlus|ThatOneBoss/Atlus]] (where Shin Megami Tensei makes up most of the article) and leave it at that.
* [[Uncanny Valley]] - Part of the series' aesthetic. While it remains distinctly [[Manga]], the characters tend to share the same grayish skin color and nearly all share the distinctive eye design.
* [[Uncanny Valley]] - Part of the series' aesthetic. While it remains distinctly [[Manga]], the characters tend to share the same grayish skin color and nearly all share the distinctive eye design.
** This was noticeably absent in [[Devil Survivor]] and the later installments of the Persona series, both of which used a more manga, cartoony style, that severely contrasted with all the [[Nightmare Fuel]] of the game.
** This was noticeably absent in [[Devil Survivor]] and the later installments of the Persona series, both of which used a more manga, cartoony style, that severely contrasted with all the [[Nightmare Fuel]] of the game.
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