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 ** ''[[Final Fantasy XIII]]'' turns out to be surprisingly on the idealistic side. Is fate a bit callous and unjust? [[The Power of Friendship]] and hope (no not ''that'' Hope) will make things turn out okay. {{spoiler|Main character's love interest/kid crystalized and ''shattered'' by the [[Big Bad]]? They'll get better. Most of the party turned into Cie'th by an even bigger [[Big Bad]]? Not to worry, they'll just ''will'' themselves out of it in time to save the day.}} ''[[Final Fantasy Versus XIII]]'' on the other hand is ''far'' to the cynical side from everything we've heard about it.
 *** Along with ''[[Final Fantasy Type-0]]'' and ''[[Final Fantasy XIII]]-2'', in fact all of the spinoffs/sequels of the ''XIII'' series are firmly cynical so far.
-** For ''[[Final Fantasy II (Video Game)|Final Fantasy II]]'', although Firon, Maria, and Guy tend to be pretty positive people, wishing for a world without the threat of conflict, the rest of the world leans towards what the writers did with ''[[Final Fantasy VI]]''. Pretty much everyone on the planet is dead, those who aren't have had their confidence massively shaken or are forced to give up the fight, the most idealistic member of the playable cast (Ming-Wu/Minwu) dies pathetically just to give you access to a [[Useless Useful Spell]] and some stat-ups, at the end of the game the party [[Nakama]]--doubling as the hero's own ''family''--is still splintered due to one member's ([[The Hero]]'s and [[The Chick]]'s ''brother'') ongoing guilt over his own evil actions prior to [[Heel Face Turn]], and, unbeknownst to all of them, [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|because they killed him]], the ''[[Big Bad]] is'' '''still''' ''tearing ass through Heaven, wreaking havoc.'' {{spoiler|Fortunately, all those party members he killed over the course of the game can school him, but ''daaaaaamn.''}}
+** For ''[[Final Fantasy II]]'', although Firon, Maria, and Guy tend to be pretty positive people, wishing for a world without the threat of conflict, the rest of the world leans towards what the writers did with ''[[Final Fantasy VI]]''. Pretty much everyone on the planet is dead, those who aren't have had their confidence massively shaken or are forced to give up the fight, the most idealistic member of the playable cast (Ming-Wu/Minwu) dies pathetically just to give you access to a [[Useless Useful Spell]] and some stat-ups, at the end of the game the party [[Nakama]]--doubling as the hero's own ''family''--is still splintered due to one member's ([[The Hero]]'s and [[The Chick]]'s ''brother'') ongoing guilt over his own evil actions prior to [[Heel Face Turn]], and, unbeknownst to all of them, [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|because they killed him]], the ''[[Big Bad]] is'' '''still''' ''tearing ass through Heaven, wreaking havoc.'' {{spoiler|Fortunately, all those party members he killed over the course of the game can school him, but ''daaaaaamn.''}}
 ** ''[[Dissidia Final Fantasy]]'' pits the two against each other. The Warriors of Cosmos lean idealistic with their emphasis on friendship and hope for a better world. In contrast, the Warriors of Chaos are mostly nihilistic or fatalistic, even the [[Token Good Teammate|Token Good Teammates]].
 ** ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics]]'' is similar to ''VII'' in that it is one of the few entries in the series that are truly very cynical. The nobility fights a pointless war to gain the throne, the commoners are treated slightly better than dirt, and the church is very powerful in the world of politics and controlled by horrifying demons. Both nobles fighting for the crown do heinous acts to try and bring down the other and the Order of the Northern Sky who is supposed to be the "good" side that the hero originally fights for sends its junior brigade members to slaughter veterans of a war before who have turned to banditry because the nobles won't pay them for their service. Top it all off with the main hero being completely vilified by history and mostly forgotten while his friend who turns into a complete [[Magnificent Bastard|Machiavellian bastard]] to achieve his goals is awarded title of regent and considered the hero by everyone. Yeah, it's definitely one of the most cynical in the series.