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* ''[[Drakengard]]'', as a game with [[Multiple Endings]] in which the best one is [[Bittersweet Ending|"sort of happy"]], falls into the cynical side. It is hard to be idealistic when [[The World Is Always Doomed|the world is literally always doomed]].
** However ''Drakengard 2'' soften this where one could actually [[Take a Third Option]], breaking the vicious cycle. However Cavia's games are normally very, very, cynical.
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** [[Bullet Witch]] is quite Cynical as well, {{spoiler|Alicia goes on quest to attempt to save a dying world from the countless armies of demons and geist who plague the world which have left the world into a nearly dying state thanks to their cleansing. And it turns she was the cause of the near extinction of humanity as her father sacrificed himself to bring her back to life which caused the forces of hell to rise and annihilate the world}}
* ''[[Super Robot Wars]]'' is a [[Massive Multiplayer Crossover]] of pretty much every [[Humongous Mecha]] anime at one point or another. Despite these varying all over the scale, the games almost invariably fall on the idealistic side of things. Courage, [[The Power of Friendship|Friendship]] and [[Hot-Blooded|Hotbloodedness]] (and in at least one game, [[Time Travel]]) overcome everything, even the tragedies of darkly cynical series like certain ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam]]'' iterations or even ''[[Neon Genesis Evangelion]]''. {{spoiler|Also, [[Not Quite Dead|no one ever seems to stay dead]].}}
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