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** That was a [[Crazy Awesome]] scene.
** That was a [[Crazy Awesome]] scene.
*** No, that was a ''[[Gecko Ending|major]]'' WTF.
*** No, that was a ''[[Gecko Ending|major]]'' WTF.
** Heck, even ''the characters'' [[You Have Got to Be Kidding Me|were gobsmacked when they saw it]], pretty blatantly [[Refuge in Cool]].
** Heck, even ''the characters'' [[You Have Got to Be Kidding Me!|were gobsmacked when they saw it]], pretty blatantly [[Refuge in Cool]].
** I thought it was very [[Hayao Miyazaki|Miya]][[Howl's Moving Castle|zaki]].
** I thought it was very [[Hayao Miyazaki|Miya]][[Howl's Moving Castle|zaki]].
* How else do you storm a BABA YAGA's castle? Baba Yaga lives in a hut on chicken legs, so attaking her dwelling on an animated dwelling place seems reasonable to me.
* How else do you storm a BABA YAGA's castle? Baba Yaga lives in a hut on chicken legs, so attaking her dwelling on an animated dwelling place seems reasonable to me.
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* When Kid was running around inside the ghost ship Niddhog, when the spirit shot at them and damaged the ship, wasn't he hurting himself? after all, there was the whole "I am this ship as this ship is me" or whatever, as well as later on when Chrona cut the ship in half, the spirit's head, hat included, was cut in half as well.
* When Kid was running around inside the ghost ship Niddhog, when the spirit shot at them and damaged the ship, wasn't he hurting himself? after all, there was the whole "I am this ship as this ship is me" or whatever, as well as later on when Chrona cut the ship in half, the spirit's head, hat included, was cut in half as well.
** The spirit probably did hurt himself, but the damage is so little that it does not show on the spirit's body. Getting cut in half is much more obvious than getting shot in the foot. Besides, why would you care about a small injury when you have Lord Death's son trying to kill you?
** The spirit probably did hurt himself, but the damage is so little that it does not show on the spirit's body. Getting cut in half is much more obvious than getting shot in the foot. Besides, why would you care about a small injury when you have Lord Death's son trying to kill you?
* So apparently Marie can cure madness by touching somebody (in the anime at least) but waits until Stein goes completely howling mad to use it, in combat, against his will, as he tries to kill her. Where the hell was this ability the entire time Stein was losing his marbles over the course of ten episodes? It doesn't seem to be that difficult. Its not a [[Dangerous Forbidden Technique]], theres not even any [[Sucking in Lines|sucking in lines]] required to charge it up. She just kind of palms him and he's fine again. So what, [[Alternate Character Interpretation|was Marie just using the madness]] [[Yandere|as an excuse to keep Stein to herself?]]
* So apparently Marie can cure madness by touching somebody (in the anime at least) but waits until Stein goes completely howling mad to use it, in combat, against his will, as he tries to kill her. Where the hell was this ability the entire time Stein was losing his marbles over the course of ten episodes? It doesn't seem to be that difficult. Its not a [[Dangerous Forbidden Technique]], theres not even any [[Sucking-In Lines|sucking in lines]] required to charge it up. She just kind of palms him and he's fine again. So what, [[Alternate Character Interpretation|was Marie just using the madness]] [[Yandere|as an excuse to keep Stein to herself?]]
** Because of the snake Medusa had Chrona infect her with. Presumably if it made Stein go crazy from using souls resonance it would also counteract Marie's healing wavelength.
** Because of the snake Medusa had Chrona infect her with. Presumably if it made Stein go crazy from using souls resonance it would also counteract Marie's healing wavelength.
* In the same fight its explained that genie hunter only cuts evil, but both times its used its shown tearing a swathe through just about every (non-child) surface it touches. Were those stone columns just real bastards or something?
* In the same fight its explained that genie hunter only cuts evil, but both times its used its shown tearing a swathe through just about every (non-child) surface it touches. Were those stone columns just real bastards or something?
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** It's probably all of North America that has the same currency, not just Death City. after all, we don't see money used elsewhere else in the series, so it might be true.
** It's probably all of North America that has the same currency, not just Death City. after all, we don't see money used elsewhere else in the series, so it might be true.
* Everyone calls Black* Star a parody of [[Naruto]]. This wouldn't bug me if it weren't for the fact that A) They have virtually nothing in common after everything's said and done and B) Not once has this been hinted at beyond having Black* Star suck as a ninja, and that in itself was the joke. Why, fandom? Why?
* Everyone calls Black* Star a parody of [[Naruto]]. This wouldn't bug me if it weren't for the fact that A) They have virtually nothing in common after everything's said and done and B) Not once has this been hinted at beyond having Black* Star suck as a ninja, and that in itself was the joke. Why, fandom? Why?
** Its because his personality is a heavily flanderised version of Naruto's. He's loud to the point where it inhibits his stealth abilities. His being a [[Highly-Visible Ninja]] is portrayed as a disadvantage. Naruto's extremly lofty goals have been exagerated into Black* Star's massive ego. His highly energetic personality has been exagerated to the point where only someone like Tsubaki could stand to work with him. Not to mention his ego is the source of his power, essentially parodying every [[Hot Blooded]] character ever created (including Naruto). Oh, and there's also [[Word of God]] on the matter IIRC.
** Its because his personality is a heavily flanderised version of Naruto's. He's loud to the point where it inhibits his stealth abilities. His being a [[Highly-Visible Ninja]] is portrayed as a disadvantage. Naruto's extremly lofty goals have been exagerated into Black* Star's massive ego. His highly energetic personality has been exagerated to the point where only someone like Tsubaki could stand to work with him. Not to mention his ego is the source of his power, essentially parodying every [[Hot-Blooded]] character ever created (including Naruto). Oh, and there's also [[Word of God]] on the matter IIRC.
** Would it be too much to ask where and when he said this?
** Would it be too much to ask where and when he said this?
*** I'd like to ask this as well considering that contrary to western fandom belief Naruto does not have an original personality. He is the typical shounen hero, his character in and of itself is a part trope that has been in existence long before his creation. Not only that but Naruto genuinely is a horrible ninja, however Black*Star isn't even an ninja he's an assassin and refers to himself as such, and when Black*Star feels like it he is actually a good assassin. Also motivations are different, unlike Naruto Black*Star genuinely wants to be strong and to be recognized as such. Loneliness is not Black*Star's main motivation. I've also never heard word of god stating that Black*Star was based off of Naruto.
*** I'd like to ask this as well considering that contrary to western fandom belief Naruto does not have an original personality. He is the typical shounen hero, his character in and of itself is a part trope that has been in existence long before his creation. Not only that but Naruto genuinely is a horrible ninja, however Black*Star isn't even an ninja he's an assassin and refers to himself as such, and when Black*Star feels like it he is actually a good assassin. Also motivations are different, unlike Naruto Black*Star genuinely wants to be strong and to be recognized as such. Loneliness is not Black*Star's main motivation. I've also never heard word of god stating that Black*Star was based off of Naruto.
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** They're both about people (Miesters/Soul Reapers) who encounter souls and collect/send those souls with the use of a weapon that can come to life. There's also the fact that they go through special schooling to do this. Then there's the fact that they both have Mad Scientists. And Cat Women causing nosebleeds to teenaged boys. And it really doesn't help that Maka and Ichigo both have magical daddys and absent moms.
** They're both about people (Miesters/Soul Reapers) who encounter souls and collect/send those souls with the use of a weapon that can come to life. There's also the fact that they go through special schooling to do this. Then there's the fact that they both have Mad Scientists. And Cat Women causing nosebleeds to teenaged boys. And it really doesn't help that Maka and Ichigo both have magical daddys and absent moms.
* People give the [[Gecko Ending]] all the bad names in the book just because [[Serious Business|it's different from the manga]]. Yes it's different but that doesn't automatically make it bad. It provides a new experience. [[Tropes Are Not Bad]] and neither are different storylines.
* People give the [[Gecko Ending]] all the bad names in the book just because [[Serious Business|it's different from the manga]]. Yes it's different but that doesn't automatically make it bad. It provides a new experience. [[Tropes Are Not Bad]] and neither are different storylines.
** I liked the [[Gecko Ending]], except for the [[Gainax Ending|last 5 minutes.]] [[Eldritch Abomination|Killing the Kishin]] [[Anticlimax|with a]] [[Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu?|Courage Punch]] [[You Have Got to Be Kidding Me|is when I]] [[Ass Pull|started hating it.]]
** I liked the [[Gecko Ending]], except for the [[Gainax Ending|last 5 minutes.]] [[Eldritch Abomination|Killing the Kishin]] [[Anticlimax|with a]] [[Did You Just Punch Out Cthulhu?|Courage Punch]] [[You Have Got to Be Kidding Me!|is when I]] [[Ass Pull|started hating it.]]
** I didn't mind the Courage Punch so much, because I viewed it as only working because Maka was freaking out Ashura with her refusal to give in to pain. What annoyed me about the [[Gecko Ending]] was the horrible, horrible treatment of Medusa and Arachne. Seriously? Medusa can only think of using a vector arrow as a sword whereas in earlier episodes she had been seen using them to much greater effect against Stein? Arachne suddenly decides that Ashura is totally A-OK and able to be trusted, then ends up getting eaten in one of the most anti-climactic scenes ever? It did not do two of the best villains justice.
** I didn't mind the Courage Punch so much, because I viewed it as only working because Maka was freaking out Ashura with her refusal to give in to pain. What annoyed me about the [[Gecko Ending]] was the horrible, horrible treatment of Medusa and Arachne. Seriously? Medusa can only think of using a vector arrow as a sword whereas in earlier episodes she had been seen using them to much greater effect against Stein? Arachne suddenly decides that Ashura is totally A-OK and able to be trusted, then ends up getting eaten in one of the most anti-climactic scenes ever? It did not do two of the best villains justice.
** First, it's not really less arbitrary than just saying "oh, now our guys are stronger than the bad guy now". Second, I think it works really well- he might have been arbitrarily strong, but had an equally crippling mental problem; he was afraid of Everything. Maka didn't get a new super-punch, but it's also not like anyone could have punched the guy to the same effect. She faced the most dangerous thing in existence without fear, and it literally shattered his worldview.
** First, it's not really less arbitrary than just saying "oh, now our guys are stronger than the bad guy now". Second, I think it works really well- he might have been arbitrarily strong, but had an equally crippling mental problem; he was afraid of Everything. Maka didn't get a new super-punch, but it's also not like anyone could have punched the guy to the same effect. She faced the most dangerous thing in existence without fear, and it literally shattered his worldview.