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{{quote|''OH NO! HE'S MILDLY GRIPPED ME BY THE ARM!''|''Film Brain'', ''[[Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li|Street Fighter the Legend of Chun Li]] Review.''}}
{{quote|''OH NO! HE'S MILDLY GRIPPED ME BY THE ARM!''|''Film Brain'', ''[[Street Fighter: The Legend of Chun-Li|Street Fighter the Legend of Chun Li]] Review.''}}
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But suddenly, something unexpected happens - she gets grabbed by the arm! Shock horror, now she has suddenly become the [[Damsel in Distress]] that needs to be saved.
But suddenly, something unexpected happens - she gets grabbed by the arm! Shock horror, now she has suddenly become the [[Damsel in Distress]] that needs to be saved.


No one is quite sure why, but it appears that any female lead's weak point in any given show happens to be on or around her upper arm (or alternatively the wrist). She could be absolutely dominating a fight, but the moment any old mook sneaks up behind her and say, grabs her shoulder, she suddenly [[Faux Action Girl|loses all competency and is reduced to begging the hero to save her, or tries once and again to fight back but is completely useless]]. This trope would make more sense if the [[Mooks|Mook]] also had, say, a gun to her back or something, but too frequently he runs at her unarmed and manages to reduce her to complete harmlessness. Maybe [[Action Girl|Action Girls]] come factory-equipped with an on/off switch in their upper arms.
No one is quite sure why, but it appears that any female lead's weak point in any given show happens to be on or around her upper arm (or alternatively the wrist). She could be absolutely dominating a fight, but the moment any old mook sneaks up behind her and say, grabs her shoulder, she suddenly [[Faux Action Girl|loses all competency and is reduced to begging the hero to save her, or tries once and again to fight back but is completely useless]]. This trope would make more sense if the [[Mooks|Mook]] also had, say, a gun to her back or something, but too frequently he runs at her unarmed and manages to reduce her to complete harmlessness. Maybe [[Action Girl]]s come factory-equipped with an on/off switch in their upper arms.


Giving the benefit of the doubt, this trope exists to keep fights interesting. But since it doesn't happen quite as often to guys, it's more likely that [[Double Standard|gender stereotypes haven't changed as much as we're led to believe]]. Alternatively, when someone tries to calm or incapacitate a guy it's much more socially acceptable to use a believable amount of force--such as punching him, [[Tap on the Head|knocking him out with a weapon]], or beating him senseless. Until the audience gets over its distaste for seeing female characters hurt--and immediately seeing any man who uses force against a woman as a villain--there will be a double standard. A third possibility is that of simple pragmatism: while animators these days have no problems lampshading how ridiculously sexist "chivalry" is, many real life holds on women can come off as perversely sexual (e.g. a full nelson from a strong opponent, while capable of incapacitating the character, also involves her assailant pressing himself behind her, forcing her head down, and spreading her arms from her chest). It doesn't excuse how ridiculous it is for an otherwise strong female to fold this easily, however.
Giving the benefit of the doubt, this trope exists to keep fights interesting. But since it doesn't happen quite as often to guys, it's more likely that [[Double Standard|gender stereotypes haven't changed as much as we're led to believe]]. Alternatively, when someone tries to calm or incapacitate a guy it's much more socially acceptable to use a believable amount of force—such as punching him, [[Tap on the Head|knocking him out with a weapon]], or beating him senseless. Until the audience gets over its distaste for seeing female characters hurt—and immediately seeing any man who uses force against a woman as a villain—there will be a double standard. A third possibility is that of simple pragmatism: while animators these days have no problems lampshading how ridiculously sexist "chivalry" is, many real life holds on women can come off as perversely sexual (e.g. a full nelson from a strong opponent, while capable of incapacitating the character, also involves her assailant pressing himself behind her, forcing her head down, and spreading her arms from her chest). It doesn't excuse how ridiculous it is for an otherwise strong female to fold this easily, however.


Note this ''never'' happens to a [[Dark Action Girl]]. If a Mook were to attempt such a thing, well, expect someone to be on the business end of a nasty [[Groin Attack|kick to the crotch]], aka: the standard ''male'' instant-incapacitation area. And that's if he's lucky - modern Dark Action Girls are rather likely to opt for breaking his arm in three places instead of "lowering themselves" to a groin attack.
Note this ''never'' happens to a [[Dark Action Girl]]. If a Mook were to attempt such a thing, well, expect someone to be on the business end of a nasty [[Groin Attack|kick to the crotch]], aka: the standard ''male'' instant-incapacitation area. And that's if he's lucky - modern Dark Action Girls are rather likely to opt for breaking his arm in three places instead of "lowering themselves" to a groin attack.
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The arm is also the ideal location to grab a female character who's panicking or in the middle of a screaming freakout. No amount of verbal entreaties will get her to mellow out on her own, but punctuate a terse "calm down!" with both hands on her upper arms, and ''voila'', she's back on steady ground again.
The arm is also the ideal location to grab a female character who's panicking or in the middle of a screaming freakout. No amount of verbal entreaties will get her to mellow out on her own, but punctuate a terse "calm down!" with both hands on her upper arms, and ''voila'', she's back on steady ground again.


Note that this trope does not apply if the female character is subjected to an actual combat move such as an armbar or a hammerlock. Note also that not every instance of a man grabbing a woman by the arm counts as a use of the [[Standard Female Grab Area]], as there really aren't a whole lot of other places that a man can grab a woman that don't carry [[Unfortunate Implications]], especially on a family-oriented show. This trope only comes into play when use of the [[Standard Female Grab Area]] makes the woman unaccountably helpless or ineffective.
Note that this trope does not apply if the female character is subjected to an actual combat move such as an armbar or a hammerlock. Note also that not every instance of a man grabbing a woman by the arm counts as a use of the '''Standard Female Grab Area''', as there really aren't a whole lot of other places that a man can grab a woman that don't carry [[Unfortunate Implications]], especially on a family-oriented show. This trope only comes into play when use of the '''Standard Female Grab Area''' makes the woman unaccountably helpless or ineffective.


[[Captain Obvious|It should go without saying]] that in [[Real Life]], it will take more than just grabbing your opponent's upper arms or wrists and standing there to stop them, regardless of gender. (This depends on the girl, however; often in many cultures, women are ''conditioned'' to submit reflexively to being physically apprehended by a man or matron-- which is probably the history behind the trope).
[[Captain Obvious|It should go without saying]] that in [[Real Life]], it will take more than just grabbing your opponent's upper arms or wrists and standing there to stop them, regardless of gender. (This depends on the girl, however; often in many cultures, women are ''conditioned'' to submit reflexively to being physically apprehended by a man or matron—which is probably the history behind the trope).


Note that this could often be justified if the one using the grab is more skilled, or more sufficiently armed. For example, Alice has a knife and is fighting Bob, who also has a knife. Charlie has a club, sword, electric spear and metal armor. He grabs Alice to make his presence known, and Alice knows not to resist or she'll get run through with something.
Note that this could often be justified if the one using the grab is more skilled, or more sufficiently armed. For example, Alice has a knife and is fighting Bob, who also has a knife. Charlie has a club, sword, electric spear and metal armor. He grabs Alice to make his presence known, and Alice knows not to resist or she'll get run through with something.
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* ''[[The Wild World of Batwoman]]'' has this used successfully on several girls in a row.
* ''[[The Wild World of Batwoman]]'' has this used successfully on several girls in a row.
* Played annoyingly straight in ''[[Appleseed|Appleseed Ex Machina]]''. After Briarios gets knocked out saving [[Boring Invincible Hero|Deunan]] from a huge explosion, she tries to help him, but is held back by this trope, of all things.
* Played annoyingly straight in ''[[Appleseed|Appleseed Ex Machina]]''. After Briarios gets knocked out saving [[Boring Invincible Hero|Deunan]] from a huge explosion, she tries to help him, but is held back by this trope, of all things.
** Partially averted--Deunan's larger male comrade also has to grab her by the waist, and visibly struggles with it (you can see him shifting his feet a few times).
** Partially averted—Deunan's larger male comrade also has to grab her by the waist, and visibly struggles with it (you can see him shifting his feet a few times).
** It also helps that she keeps her wits enough to not actively fight her comrade, simply pushing forward rather than attacking him - this would be a bad idea if he was an enemy, but she knows he's not.
** It also helps that she keeps her wits enough to not actively fight her comrade, simply pushing forward rather than attacking him - this would be a bad idea if he was an enemy, but she knows he's not.
* Played straight at the end of ''[[Shrek]]''. After showing [[Action Girl|impeccable fighting skills]] early in the movie, Fiona can only call helplessly for Shrek when grabbed this way at {{spoiler|her wedding}}. Granted Farquaad does eventually put a knife to her throat but only after 20 seconds or so of her doing nothing while Shrek, who is also grabbed, actually fights back.
* Played straight at the end of ''[[Shrek]]''. After showing [[Action Girl|impeccable fighting skills]] early in the movie, Fiona can only call helplessly for Shrek when grabbed this way at {{spoiler|her wedding}}. Granted Farquaad does eventually put a knife to her throat but only after 20 seconds or so of her doing nothing while Shrek, who is also grabbed, actually fights back.
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* In ''[[Mulan]] II'', one of the Mongolian emperor's guards successfully uses this on Mulan.
* In ''[[Mulan]] II'', one of the Mongolian emperor's guards successfully uses this on Mulan.
* ''[[Miss Congeniality]]'' absolutely destroys this trope by having Sandra Bullock's character demonstrate self-defense techniques against just such a grapple for the talent portion of the beauty contest.
* ''[[Miss Congeniality]]'' absolutely destroys this trope by having Sandra Bullock's character demonstrate self-defense techniques against just such a grapple for the talent portion of the beauty contest.
* Subverted in ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]''. Near the end of the flick, a henchman has Lucy firmly subdued via the [[Standard Female Grab Area]] while the [[Big Bad]], Gabriel, threatens McClane... but the second the [[Big Bad]]'s back is turned, Lucy smacks the henchman in the face, ''shoots him in the foot with his own gun'' and [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|basically almost manages to finish out the whole flick by herself]]. When the henchman get her back under control, he grabs her by the throat and shoves a gun in her face.
* Subverted in ''[[Live Free or Die Hard]]''. Near the end of the flick, a henchman has Lucy firmly subdued via the Standard Female Grab Area while the [[Big Bad]], Gabriel, threatens McClane... but the second the [[Big Bad]]'s back is turned, Lucy smacks the henchman in the face, ''shoots him in the foot with his own gun'' and [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|basically almost manages to finish out the whole flick by herself]]. When the henchman get her back under control, he grabs her by the throat and shoves a gun in her face.
{{quote|'''Gabriel''': You got her?
{{quote|'''Gabriel''': You got her?
'''Henchman''': Yeah.
'''Henchman''': Yeah.
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* Subverted in ''[[Robin Hood (TV series)|Robin Hood]]'' with Djaq. A [[Mook]] twists her arm behind her back and triumphantly shouts: "I've got the girl!" She head butts him, retrieves her sword and mutters: "A ''woman'', you'll find."
* Subverted in ''[[Robin Hood (TV series)|Robin Hood]]'' with Djaq. A [[Mook]] twists her arm behind her back and triumphantly shouts: "I've got the girl!" She head butts him, retrieves her sword and mutters: "A ''woman'', you'll find."
** Sadly played straight with Djaq's [[Replacement Scrappy|replacement]] Kate, who in her first episode is [[Mary Sue|magically capable]] of overpowering grown, horse-backed, armoured men by poking them with her bare hands, and is then rendered [[Faux Action Girl|utterly helpless]] in every other fight she participates in. Except the [[Cat Fight]], of course.
** Sadly played straight with Djaq's [[Replacement Scrappy|replacement]] Kate, who in her first episode is [[Mary Sue|magically capable]] of overpowering grown, horse-backed, armoured men by poking them with her bare hands, and is then rendered [[Faux Action Girl|utterly helpless]] in every other fight she participates in. Except the [[Cat Fight]], of course.
* Reference in ''[[Shooting Stars]]'' in a segment parodying ''[[The A-Team]]'' - "Look, it's a woman being pushed and pulled about a bit by some communists!" (Two Fidel Castro lookalikes each holding on to the [[Standard Female Grab Area]] and pointlessly pushing her back and forth)
* Reference in ''[[Shooting Stars]]'' in a segment parodying ''[[The A-Team]]'' - "Look, it's a woman being pushed and pulled about a bit by some communists!" (Two Fidel Castro lookalikes each holding on to the Standard Female Grab Area and pointlessly pushing her back and forth)
* Inverted in an episode of [[iCarly]], where Sam incapacitates a [[Girls Have Cooties|girl-hating]] [[Nerd|model train club member]] by squeezing his wrist.
* Inverted in an episode of [[iCarly]], where Sam incapacitates a [[Girls Have Cooties|girl-hating]] [[Nerd|model train club member]] by squeezing his wrist.
* Averted in [[Power Rangers Wild Force]]. Toxica tried using this on Princess Shayla. Cue counter-ass-kicking.
* Averted in [[Power Rangers Wild Force]]. Toxica tried using this on Princess Shayla. Cue counter-ass-kicking.