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* [[Alternate Character Interpretation]]:
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* [[Broken Base]]: Several divisions divide fans of the series. Mainly between the ones that like the games that came after ''Star Fox 64'' or not. Then there's the [[True Art Is Ancient|die-hards]] who consider the original ''Star Fox''/''Starwing'' to be the better game.
* [[Celibate Hero]]: Falco, based on a [[Fan Translation|Fan]] [[Scanlation]] of ''[[Farewell Beloved Falco]]''.
{{quote| '''Katt:''' Hey, Falco, have you found a girlfriend yet?<br />
'''Falco:''' No way! Never have, never will. I fly solo, babe. }}
** It's been said that the original Japanese version of these lines has a completely different nuance. These two lines are some of the [[Lost in Translation|most disputed]] among Falco fans, with potential implications towards Falco's overall [[Ambiguously Gay|sexual orientation]] and love life. This makes an accurate translation of ''[[Farewell Beloved Falco]]'' as a whole [[Serious Business|a sensitive issue]].
{{quote| '''キャット:'''「ねえファルコ には恋人は いるの?<br />
'''ファルコ:'''「俺は今も昔も 惚れた腫れたには 興味はねえ }}
** In kana, for the [[Chinese Language|kanji]]-illiterate:
{{quote| '''キャット:'''「ねえファルコ にはこいびとは いるの?<br />
'''ファルコ:'''「おれは いまも むかしも ほれた はれたには きょうみはねえ }}
** In rōmaji, for the kana-illiterate:
{{quote| '''Kyatto:''' Nē Faruko ni wa koibito wa iru no?<br />
'''Faruko:''' Ore wa imamomukashimo horetahareta ni wa kyōmi wanē. }}
** The literal translation is:
{{quote| '''Katt:''' Hey Falco, do you have... a lover?<br />
'''Falco:''' I'm, now and before, if i get in love or i get swollen up, it will depend on the person I'll fall in love. }}
*** Translation notes: Falco uses the term "swollen up" as a euphemism to never fall in love, also, in the japanese text he never uses a gender kanji, rather leaving the interpretation about being okay with falling in love with a man or a woman.
** Basically, Katt asks Falco if he has a lover, using a [[Gender and Japanese Language|gender-neutral Japanese term]]. Falco responds that he doesn't have lovers, but using fence-sitting wording that makes his answer sound rather unreliable. Both the scanlation and the Japanese text have the effect of eliciting a reaction from readers with a strong personal [[Gaydar]], but the subtle differences in tone seem [[Lost in Translation]], such that Falco's ''actual'' celibacy is still in question. However, when it comes to Falco and women, both versions of the manga as a whole paint Falco as someone who can be platonic friends with women, but is strongly (and even angrily) averse to anything further than that.
*** Since [[Shipping]] is [[Serious Business]], and especially so in the ''Star Fox'' fandom, the topic of Falco's celibacy is seldom a dispute between fans who actually ''want'' Falco to be celibate -- rather, it's usually [[Ship-to-Ship Combat]] to [[Ship Sinking|Sink a rival Ship]], usually Falco×Fox vs. Falco×Katt. A ''celibate'' Falco is relatively neutral ground, allowing Falco to have both Fox and Katt as [[Platonic Life Partners]] without being in a romantic relationship with either one.
* [[Complete Monster]]: Both Andross and General Scales are pretty clear examples due to their atrocities and lack of shame they have in committing them.
** [[CompleteIn Monster]]:terms of sheer detestability, Pigma Dengar takes the cake. Even Wolf hates this guy. Everything he does, he does for money. To say that he is a sick, sick pig is the understatement of the year. As if betraying Fox's dad (who he was supposed to be friends with!) to Andross for money wasn't enough, in ''64'', he takes the time to bring up James ''every single time'' he sees Fox.
{{quote| '''Pigma:''' (to Fox) Daddy screamed reeeeeeeeal good, before he '''DIED'''.}}
* [[Crack Pairing]]:
** One such pairing that has occurred recently is Wolf/Lucy. Shippers point to the appearance of Lucy's daughter in the ending "Goodbye Fox", claiming that she shares some of Wolf's traits.
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* [[Crowning Music of Awesome]]: The Star Wolf theme gets an awesome [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti-ANm0kaV0 instrumental remake] in ''Assault''.
* [[Die for Our Ship]]:
** Related to [[Base Breaker]] above, especially for [[Het Is Ew]] fans who want Fox to end up with either [[Queer Romance|Falco]] or [[Bara Genre|Wolf]]. Don't count out the [[Canon Dis ContinuityDiscontinuity|Fara]] [[Fanon Discontinuity|fans]] either.
** With its predominantly male cast, ''Star Fox'' naturally gets this, especially in the form of [[Hello, Nurse!|Krystal]] the blue vixen, who is both Fox's [[Shallow Love Interest|love interest]] and the [[Base Breaker]] of the series as a whole. Most fans shunt her aside in favor of [[Ho Yay|Fox/Falco and Fox/Wolf]]; there's also [[Faux Action Girl|Fara Phoenix]] from the 1993 Nintendo Power comics based off of the SNES game as a replacement, even though she and Fox have little chemistry between them...more specifically, [[Take That|just as much as Fox and Krystal do(n't)]].
** On the flip side, just about no one will even ''dare'' ship [[Latin Lover|Panther]] with Krystal; lo and behold, rabid fans burst like crazy.
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* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]: The two mainstays of Star Wolf: Leon's (apparently) a cold-blooded killer, albeit one who loves flowers and rainbows, and Wolf is... Wolf. Panther also gets this a lot, as his great reverence for love thus redeems him.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: In Japan, Leon, Panther, Falco, and Slippy are quite popular, overshadowing Fox. Since ''Assault'', Wolf rose to the top of fame as well. And then Panther came along and, because of his personality as well as being a cat... Well, let's just say he's used a lot as a subject in Nico Video as someone who is dancing, doing silly things, etc. Lucy became the [[Ensemble Darkhorse]] of ''Command'', despite getting the least character development of any of that game's new characters.
* [[Epileptic Trees]]: Various fan-theories attempting to explain {{spoiler|James's sudden appearances at the end of ''64'' and ''Command''}}. Likewise, the idea that James McCloud from [[F -Zero]] and this character are one and the same.
** Also the argument that James and Fox were never actually renamed -- they could be Fox James McCloud Sr. and Fox James McCloud Jr., or they could be James McCloud Sr. and James McCloud Jr. with "Fox" being a nickname.
* [[Even Better Sequel|Even Better Remake]]: ''Star Fox 64'' made many, many improvements over the original [[True Art Is Ancient|stylish]] SNES Star Fox, and it's the most popular and remembered game in the series as a result of this.
* [[Everyone Is Gay]]:
** ''Star Fox'' [[Fanfic|fanficsfanfic]]s. Fox, Falco, Wolf and Leon are sometimes portrayed as flaming gay. (Leon in particular seldom ever needs any significant personality changes to fit this description.) Of course, "[[Really Gets Around|Nymphomaniac]] Gaylords" are perhaps a more ''accurate'' description.
** It doesn't help that, until ''Assault'' and ''Adventures'', the cast was almost ''entirely'' male (With one un-determinable gender).
* [[Fan Nickname]]: A "[[Super Nintendo Entertainment System|snesser]]" is one of a dwindling (as of recently, steadily recovering) number of fans who prefers SNES ''Star Fox'' or ''Star Fox 2'' over ''Star Fox 64'' or the other games that followed.
* [[Fan-Preferred Couple]]: In Japan, Fox × Falco dominates fan expression. There's a lot of it in the West too. [http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=221 This is probably the most famous example] (and a parody of [[Idiosyncratic Ship Naming|Falox]] shippers).
* [[Fan Yay]]: The ''Star Fox'' franchise has a significant gay fanbase, since virtually the very beginning with ''[[Star Fox 1 (Videovideo Gamegame)|Star Fox 1]]''. The reasons are varied, but [[Ho Yay]] is a big reason that both Fan Yay and [[Yaoi Fangirl|Yaoi Fangirls]]s frequently share.
** Falco is especially relatable as gay-fan-adopted [[Audience Surrogate]], with or without Ho Yay. Falco has been noticed by gay fans even before ''[[Farewell Beloved Falco (Manga)|Farewell Beloved Falco]]'' or ''[[Star Fox 64 (Video Game)|Star Fox 64]]'' -- he has been tripping [[Gaydar]] since the comic accompaniment of ''1'', particularly during Fox and Falco's fight scene in the Arwing hangar which [[Alternative Character Interpretation|could be interpreted as]] [[Belligerent Sexual Tension]] on Falco's part. Falco actually tripped gaydar ''less'' blatantly in ''64'', the [[Memetic Mutation]] of script notwithstanding, in part because of the [[Ship Tease]] with Katt. But ''Farewell'' not only [[Ship Sinking|sunk this ship]], but in a mere sixty four pages it greatly multiplied the comparatively modest gaydar blips the 1993 comic had produced. This is notable because Japan ''did not'' officially receive the 1993 comic, but the West did not officially receive ''Farewell'', and neither audience had wide access to ''both'' comics until they were [[Scanlation|Scanlated]].
* [[Flanderization]]: Wolf is not so obviously [[Manly Gay]] in ''64'', but his character is blatantly fleshed out in ''Assault'', then by ''Brawl'' he personifies the stereotype.
* [[Fountain of Memes]]: ''Star Fox 64''{{'}}s voice acting is ''legendary'' for the [[Memetic Mutation|instant quotability]] and sheer [[Narm]] of the many, many lines. Not so much ''[[So Okay It's Average|Assault]]''{{'}}s dialog, but ''Adventures'' has a few meme inspiring lines here and there.
* [[Game Breaker]]: [[Secret Character|Wolf]] in ''Assault''{{'}}s multiplayer mode.
* [[Germans Love David Hasselhoff]]: Krystal in the West. [[Broken Base|At least a plurality of the West]]. Mainly because of her [[Hello, Nurse!]] appearance.
* [[Good Bad Translation]]:
** Panther's official last name in Japan is Caluroso. This spelling is used in ''Assault'', ''Command'', and ''[[Super Smash Bros]]. Brawl]]''. In localization, however, his last name is changed to Caroso. Again, another translation mishap occurred in ''Command'' and changed his last name into Caruso. In the localization of ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'', they used Caroso, confirming Caroso being the official last name for Panther outside Japan.
** Then again, ''Command'' has a large amount of translation errors. For instance, Panther speaks in third person in the English translation, yet speaks normally in other languages.
** Dash's Japanese name is Ash. Dash is supposed to be a reference to a sci-fi movie character.
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* [[Jerk Sue]]: Fox, especially in the 1993 comics. He's not above losing his temper, arguing with people, and defying authority to get his way. And he pretty much ''always'' turns out to be ''right'' -- he was just [[Badass|awesome]] enough to get away with it. The [[Continuity Reboot]] also rebooted Fox's personality to a clean slate, and his personality was never quite the same after that, though both continuities involved variations of [[Cunning Like a Fox]].
* [[Large Ham]]:
{{quote| '''Andrew:''' The new emperor: ANDREW OIKONN- UNCLE ANDROOOOOOOSSSSS!<br />
'''General Pepper in ''Assault'':''' Let me die in battle! Do NOT let ME transform! Honour! Let me keep my honour, Fox! }}
* [[The Masochism Tango]]: "Uh, set me straight here, Leon; are you envious of the shred''der'', or the shred''ee''?"
* [[Memetic Badass]]: He has a catchphrase and a manly personality... and his face screams of "RAPE TIME!" Can you guess who?
** Hey, Wolf's ''Assault'' voice is [[Team Fortress 2 (Video Game)|Engineer]]! Spy's sappin' my Landmaster!
* [[Memetic Molester]]: Wolf... particularly his ''Assault'' pose.
* [[Memetic Mutation]]:
** Any spoken line from ''64'', especially "[[Do a Barrel Roll|Do a barrel roll]]!"
{{quote| '''Peppy:''' [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v{{=}}wIkJvY96i8w DO] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v{{=}}mv5qzMtLE60 A] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v{{=}}L73yGiMHH5U BARREL][http://www.youtube.com/watch?v{{=}}mCxUd8pwe-U ROLL!]}}
** It didn't help that the 'barrel' roll in ''64'' was actually an Aileron roll. Now a whole generation of gamers don't know that the barrel roll is something completely different.
** Never mind that, but Peppy only ever says the phrase TWICE (including Landmaster) during each playthrough of the game. Internet fandom would have anyone believe it's all he ever says.
** Also, the phrase "It's a trap!" Whether the meme itself was started from ''[[Star Wars]]'' first is a bit unsure, but it can easily be linked to ''Star Fox'', obviously.
{{quote| '''Falco:''' Personally, I prefer the air!}}
** Wolf's line "Can't let you do that, Star Fox" has lately gotten popular due to Wolf's appearance in ''[[Super Smash Bros.]] Brawl''.
** Can't let you brew that, Starbucks!
** Can't let you view that, Firefox!
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*** "Hands off my [[Mondegreen|BREAD]]!"
** [http://en.wikifur.com/wiki/News:%27Krystal_sandwich%27_meme_strikes_Fur_Affinity Krystal can't enjoy her sandwich] :'(
** [["Stop Having Fun!" Guys|NO ITEMS!]] [[Complacent Gaming Syndrome|FOX ONLY!]] [[Super Smash Bros.|FINAL DESTINATION!]]
* [[Memetic Outfit]]: Wolf + leather + metal... His ''Brawl'' clothes helped.
* [[Moral Event Horizon]]:
** Whatever sympathy the people of Corneria might have had for Andross went down the drain when he unleashed a bio-weapon on their planet. Then there's [[Murder the Hypotenuse|the issue with Vixy...]]
** The Aparoids' attack on Sauria, {{spoiler|later revealed to be a diverson to keep Star Fox busy while the aparoids attack Corneria}}. And if that wasn't enough, they {{spoiler|take over General Pepper and his flagship and [[Player Punch|force FoxFOX]] to destroy him.}}
* [[Most Annoying Sound]]: No, Slippy, I will not get that guy off you, shut the fuck up.
* [[Narm]]/[[Narm Charm]]: ''Star Fox 64'' script, full stop. You will either [[Face Palm]] or [[So Bad It's Good|enjoy it]].
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* [[Recycled Script]]: In the comic series that was released at the same time as the original 1993 game, Slippy is kidnapped on Titania, but manages to rescue himself using his [[Utility Belt|Utility Necklace]]. In ''64'', Slippy is kidnapped on Titania and has to be rescued by Fox. In ''Farewell, Beloved Falco'', Slippy is kidnapped on Titania and has to be rescued by Fox ''again''. Both scenarios involve the Landmaster, but in ''64'' it's used to rescue Slippy, while in ''Farewell'' Slippy is kidnapped while piloting it.
* [[The Scrappy]]:
** Slippy, but mostly in ''[[Star Fox 64]]''. He gets a lot of flack due to always getting chased by enemies and his annoying voice. These things were toned down somewhat in ''[[Star Fox Assault]]'', which made him a bit more competent in terms of flying skills, gave him a less-annoying voice, and also it also gave him a few funny lines here and there. As a result, a few fans who initially hated him [[Rescued Fromfrom the Scrappy Heap|actually started to like him a little]].
** Dash. Even Andrew is better-liked than him. Still, Dash was one of the more plot-significant characters of ''Command''. [[Uncyclopedia]]'s ''Star Fox'' [httphttps://uncyclopedia.wikia.comca/wiki/Star_Fox article] poked fun at this by saying Dash was played by [[Creator's Pet|Wil Wheaton]].
** Krystal's treatment among Japanese fans is lukewarm at best. Most Japanese fanart of Krystal either treats her as just another ensemble character, as a soulless sex doll, or as a joke character.
* [[Seinfeld Is Unfunny]]: ''Star Fox'' for the SNES looks dated today, but it was considered one of the most advanced games at the time. And still, rendering [[Polygonal Graphics]] on the primarily 2D SNES is quite a feat to behold.
* [[Sequel Displacement]]: ''Star Fox 64'' was made with this ''intentionally'' in mind to replace the original ''Star Fox'' in the storyline.
* [[Ship-to-Ship Combat]]: ''Star Fox'''s combat revolves ''all'' around [[The Hero|Fox]]: Fox/Krystal vs. Fox/Fara (please remember reciting your [[MST3K Mantra]], fans of either side - both are [[Official Couple|Official Couples]]) vs. [[Vitriolic Best Buds|Fox/Falco]] vs. Fox/[[Anti-Hero|Wolf]], and, more recently (and for no apparent reason), Fox/Miyu. Fox/Falco also gets pitted against [[Ship Tease|Falco/Katt]] every now and then, and the first of the aforementioned [[Official Couple|Official Couples]] occasionally goes against [[TheRomantic PaoloFalse Lead|Panther]]/Krystal, which is usually the target of [[Die for Our Ship]] anyway.
* [[So Okay It's Average]]: ''Assault'' is widely regarded as this by fans and some reviewers. Interestingly, it's the worst-reviewed game in the series, but you'd actually be hard-pressed to find a fan that prefers ''Command'' over it.
* [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad]]:
** While Krystal's role in ''Star Fox Adventures'' was modest, she becomes the main focus of the plot in ''Star Fox Command''. The whole plot of the game revolves around Fox's relationship with Krystal and most of the game's endings revolve around her in some way. She is also the only character that has two Arwings(one for when she joins Star Wolf and another for if she rejoins Star Fox).
** [[Averted]] in ''Star Fox Assault'' where she was given as much importance as every other team member.
* [[StraightInvisible Gayto Gaydar]]: Falco in Japan [[Fanon]]. This assumption is common even outside the realm of [[Ho Yay]].
* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]:
** A good 95-100% of the criticism of ''[[Star Fox Adventures (Video Game)|Star Fox Adventures]]'' was some variant of this or "It's not ''Star Fox 64''."
** The same issue popped up now and then with ''Star Fox 64'' not being ''Star Fox'' SNES. Fans who prefer the SNES games are called [[Super Nintendo Entertainment System|snessers]]. It can be [[Serious Business]].
* [[They Just Didn't Care]]:
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** The 3DS remake seems to be adding even more hammy voice acting, if the samples from recent trailers are anything to go by.
 
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