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* [[And the Fandom Rejoiced]]: For the first time ever, fans were happy at the news that Wesley Crusher was to appear, mostly because of [[Wil Wheaton|the actor]] [[Rescued from the Scrappy Heap|becoming a nerd icon]] in the years since the character's last appearance.
** [[Yank the Dog's Chain]]: Most of the cameo was cut from the film.
* [[Big Lipped Alligator Moment]]: The car chase scene on the desert planet. The apparently xenophobic [[Word of God|natives]] chasing them are never mentioned again, nor is the flagrant violation of the [[Alien Non-Interference Clause|Prime Directive]] incurred by firing on them with energy weapons and flying spaceships in plain view.▼
** Shinzon taking over Riker's body to rape Troi. An utterly tasteless moment that serves absolutely no purpose except Shinzon [[For the Evulz|doing something villainous]], like we couldn't tell he was the bad guy already.▼
*** Well, "pointless" except for [[Chekhov's Gun|setting up the psychic connection between Troi and the Viceroy]], which is later used in the movie to attack the Scimitar and keep the ''Enterprise'' from being destroyed. Just that small thing.▼
* [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]]: Yes, the movie is mediocre at best, but the scene where {{spoiler|Picard rams the ''Enterprise'' headfirst into Shinzon's ship}} is still unquestionably awesome.
** Hell, say what you will about the rest of the
** As well as escaping the ''Scimitar'' by flying a fighter through it. Actually, this movie could have been pretty good if it had had a bit more meat on its bones.
** Also {{spoiler|when Picard impales Shinzon on a pipe, Shinzon ''pulls himself down the length of it get close enough to Picard to wrap his hands around his neck''.}} This is actually based on a classic painting.
** Troi gets a nice little moment turning the psychic link the Viceroy [[Mind Rape|forced on her]] back against him.
* [[
* [[Fight Scene Failure]]: proof that [[Your Mileage May Vary]] on just about anything, ''other'' fans found the starship fight listed above to be boring and without tension. Four ships looping through empty space throwing little droplets of light at each other, taking forever to break through the [[Deflector Shields]] and start setting off the [[Explosive Instrumentation]]. That's very realistic... But it's also kind of boring. [[Tropes Are Not Bad]]!
** Rather odd in that Shinzon's ship was established to have hundreds of fighters and attack drones onboard, which are never used in the fight.
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* [[He's Just Hiding]]: {{spoiler|Data again. This is pretty much canon now, with his resurrection being a plot point in the [[Backstory]] for ''[[Star Trek (film)|Star Trek]]''.}}
* [[Idiot Ball]]: In the original script, Doctor Crusher and several others ask B4 how he'd ended up on the desert planet after turning him on. He then launched into his ''autobiography'', explaining every moment of his life since he was first turned on by Pak'Leds ("they are fat.") Most of the tale would repeat several times over because he would also include instances of ''others'' asking him where he came from, at which point he tells the story about telling those people the story. On a second watch, the viewer would realize that at some point in there, B4 had actually spilled everything about Shinzon's plan, but Doctor Crusher had long since ''fallen asleep''.
* [[Memetic Mutation]]: In an unusual example, this happened to a line that never actually made it to the final movie. When Riker kicked the Viceroy to his death, he was scripted to [[Bond One-Liner|quip]] "''Don't worry, hell is dark!''" The script was leaked on to the internet however, and the line was mercilessly lampooned by Trekkies,
* [[Motive Decay]]: Shinzon wanted to free the Remans, but he managed to do that before the movie started. Then he wanted to be the new Praetor on Romulus, but he didn't seem to like that job very much. So then he went to some really elaborate measures to bring in for Picard a blood transfusion, but that didn't work out so well (largely because he kept blowing it off until after Picard had left), so he finally settled on trying to kill everyone on Earth.
▲* [[
▲** Shinzon taking over Riker's body to rape Troi. An utterly tasteless moment that serves absolutely no purpose except Shinzon [[For the Evulz|doing something villainous]], like we couldn't tell he was the bad guy already.
▲*** Well, "pointless" except for [[Chekhov's Gun|setting up the psychic connection between Troi and the Viceroy]], which is later used in the movie to attack the Scimitar and keep the ''Enterprise'' from being destroyed. Just that small thing.
* [[Recycled Script]]: {{spoiler|The death of Data}} tries and fails to mirror a similar moment in ''[[Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan|Wrath of Khan]]''. Hell, even the main villain feels like a poor man's Khan.
** Picard beaming over alone to the enemy ship to confront the cheesy villain and blow up the [[Applied Phlebotinum]] of Doom [[Star Trek: Insurrection|sure sounds familiar...]]
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* [[Special Effect Failure]]: The overall standard of special effects is better than in the previous movie, but some of the CGI (especially the model texturing) is awful, especially if you're watching on [[Blu-Ray]].
* [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad]]: The film plays out like a Picard and Data [[Fan Fiction]], with most of the main cast limited to holding the floor down.
* [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot]]: You know, even with the [[Ass Pull]] involved in the Remans being Nosferatu knockoffs and Shinzon and Picard being related, there were still seeds of a neat plot in there (that dinner scene isn't half bad). And the concept behind B4 isn't really too out there, since Dr. Soong did say prototypes existed prior to Data
** Not to mention that this was supposed to be the first ''Trek'' film to truly feature the Romulans, after being in the background through previous films. But they're barely in it. Fortunately, [[Star Trek (film)|the next Trek movie]] would show how badass the Romulans are.
* [[Took the Bad Film Seriously]]: [[Tom Hardy]] is actually pretty decent; him and [[Patrick Stewart]] make the one-on-one scenes between Shinzon and Picard watchable, at least.
** In an interview given years after the film came out, Hardy said that he took the film role very seriously, as it was intended to be his big break. The commercial failure of the film and the response from longtime fans apparently led to his relationship dissolving, his turning to alcohol, and considering suicide. It was only when he pulled himself together and starred in ''Bronson'' that he got over the film (and we all know [[Inception|the]] [[The Dark Knight Rises|rest]]).
* [[Wall Banger]]: Enough for [[{{TOPLEVELPAGE}}/Wall Banger|a page of their own]].
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