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Think about it.
 
== The [[SG -1]] team ran out of helmets that fit them ==
In early episodes they have helmets but later on budget cuts mean that they can't afford helmets for everybody. So the old helmets got used up and the remaining can't fit [[SG -1]].
 
== Naqida is an element in the island of stability. ==
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* Alternatively, the POO symbol could have been used as a shorthand by the ancients for talking about their destination.
{{quote| '''Ancient 1''': So, where are you going this year?<br />
'''Ancient 2''': I was thinking of going to Circle over Pyramid.<br />
'''Ancient 1''': Nice. }}
** Actually, they would've probably referred to the planets by their seven-to-nine-syllable Ancient name as derived from the planet's gate address. ("Lost City, Part 2")
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* In the Pegasus galaxy, the POO and enter keys seem to be the same, suggesting that the use of two separate keys for POO and enter became obsolete some time between the creation of the stargate system in the Milky Way and that in Pegasus. Perhaps related to the obsolescence of manual dial?
* Would make sense as far as dialing out of the galaxy goes. If you didn't have an 'enter' command, you'd connect as soon as you had seven, wouldn't you?
* (This idea was copied from the [[Stargate Universe (TV)/WMG|SGU WMG]]) Alternatively, the origin symbol is actually an "orientation" symbol, added to keep version 1.0 gates (such as those used by Destiny) upright when they connect. Since they spin their entire ring, they would have to have some mechanism keeping the cargo from coming through upside-down. The answer is the final symbol, which isn't actually part of the address, but sets the gate's orientation to a known value. Version 2.0 gates (such as those used in the Milky Way) didn't really need it, but by that point, people were so used to dialing an orientation symbol every time that the designers kept it around.
* It would actually make a lot more sense if the Point of Origin is actually the ''starting point of the dialing process''. It doesn't mean a "point of origin" in the sense of where you start your travel, but rather, it's the start and end point of the dialing process. The gate only dials when it has been returned to its Point of Origin. As such, the symbol used is entirely up to the creator of that specific stargate. The Milky Way stargates were one of the earlier versions, and were made to order - as such, each one had a symbol, possibly indicating who ''created'' that stargate. The newer Pegasus stargates were mass-created for quicker distribution to replace the older units, while the ones being placed by the ships that went before Destiny had to be standardised and produced automatically. So really, the unique symbol used on some Milky Way stargates might be considered to be a maker's mark.
 
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** Apophis uses the Abydos DHD to dial Chulak. It is an outrageous plot device: he had the hand-dialer, which he previously used to dial the SGC's Stargate, and the only purpose was to allow Ferretti to learn Chulak's address by looking at the highlighted keys. What ever happened to the glyph order being significant? As for the movie, no DHDs were shown in it; for all we know, they may not even exist in the movie-only continuity.
** Even if the glyph order is significant, the SGC's dialing computer is more than capable of spam-dialing all 720 possible combinations of the glyphs until it found one that works. t SGC already knew ''which'' six symbols they needed, but didn't know the order for them (Ferretti saw the proper symbols glowing on the hand-dialer, but didn't see them actually entered). Six symbols chosen 6 at a time give 720 permutation.
* [http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk274/ArchMage47/Stargate/notebook.jpg Here is a screenshot of an Ancient's notebook]{{Dead link}} from ''Ark of Truth.'' As you can see, there's a drawing like the one Daniel used in the movie to describe the coordinate system.
** It was just a sketch, not a blueprint or a formal technical paper. Perhaps the original concept for the system was exactly like Daniel suggested. But when the system was being built, they hit the same issues that were mentioned here and decided to scrap the constellations idea, reverting to an address system more like a phone-number. Keeping the constellation symbols on the [[DH Ds]] would make sense, seeing as every race that used the system would have their own language. As was shown in an earlier episode, The Four Races used a joint language based on the table of elements for communication. Using constellations isn't a far reach...
*** Except that constellations are Earth-specific, so for anyone not from Earth they would simply be arbitrary pictograms.
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Alternatively, the Furlings did not ascend, but were wiped out by the Goa'uld. Either way, the Goa'uld fractured time and again due to their developing god complex and lost most of their technology.
* In a universe with [[Psychic Powers]], [[Time Travel]] and [[Ascend to Aa Higher Plane of Existence|non-corporeal beings]], how can you say "it doesn't work that way"? Their way is clearly not our way. Memory and mind in the Stargate Verse can transcend the physical.
* Actually, genetic memory DOES exist in our world...the Goa'uld've simply fount a way to break it and make it ridiculous.
 
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Kronos and Ares existence indicate the Greek pantheon were Goa'uld. Hades was pretty much the only guy there who didn't make a hobby of being a dick to mortals.
* What about Athena? If I recall correctly she was one of the nicer gods. Certainly up there with Hades, anyway. She's not particularly nice on the show though, what with running the trust for Ba'al and all.
* Hades [[I Have You Now, My Pretty|kidnapped]] and [[And Now You Must Marry Me|married]] [[Classical Mythology|Persephone]] [[And Now You Must Marry Me|against her will]], causing her mother Demeter to be so disheartened that it caused winter. He was also allies with/brother of Zeus and Poseidon, not two of the nicest fellows when it comes to humanity. Also, he specialized in [[Cold -Blooded Torture]] against people who dared offend the gods (as well as those who actually did something wrong). And allowing somebody his wife to come back from the dead as long as he doesn't look at her to see if she's following him, and then making her footsteps inaudible? Dick move. Still less bad than the Asgard Loki<ref> the god of mischief. Appears in SG-1 as an asgard who mindprobes and rejuvinates many people including {{spoiler|Jack O'Neill}}</ref>, who raped a horse in mythology.
 
== The Tok'ra exist as the result of covert manipulation by the Ancients. ==
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== Ba'al has a symbiotic relationship with his host, much as the Tok'ra do. ==
This is why he's so much less of a [[Large Ham]] [[Card -Carrying Villain]] than your standard Goa'uld--their personalities have blended considerably over the 2000 years they've been together. (It also means that Vala is about to get a big shock at the end of ''[[Stargate: Continuum]]''--she's expecting to help support someone who like her was a passive observer of Goa'uld tyranny, when in reality she's going to end up having to deal with a man who was entirely complicit in it.)
* Ba'al's host may in fact be the genius of the operation, which is why Ba'al never tried swapping hosts, and why he went to the trouble of cloning his host as well as himself.
 
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== Before his exile, Anubis was in the entertainment industry. ==
He wrote teleball dramas, mostly made for Goa'uld audiences. He was exiled after writing one too many cliffhanger season finales.
* Talk about getting [[Screwed Byby the Network]]
* now I finally understand what "[[So Bad ItsIt's Horrible|crimes]] [[Noodle Incident|unspeakable]] even to the Goa'uld" means
* His ultimate plot was not to conquer the galaxy but to continue his reign of cliffhanger finales. He succeeded in season 6 but barely failed in seasons 5,7, and 8, after which he was put on a bus to ensure that he never did it again, only to sneak past Oma to trick the Ori into doing it for season 9. The series was canceled after season 10 to insure he couldn't repeat that.
 
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Jenny eventually ended up being the Chevron Gal at the time of the first Abydos mission. She was fired after the project got mothballed and was not brought back when the program was restarted; hence the reason there are civilian technicians in the film and military technicians in the series.
* Time travel in Stargate doesn't seem to work that way. "2010/2001", "Moebius", etc. clearly show that it works under the "mutable history" model. "1969" can be interpreted under the mutable model as well. See [https://web.archive.org/web/20081120133430/http://lucidfox.org/wp/time-travel-in-stargate-sg-1 this]. However, the only aspect that needs to be changed due to this is the reason for the Stargate Program's creation. After all, a mutated mutable timeline can resemble a Stable Time Loop if the past isn't changed much.
** Time Travel in the Stargate Universe seems to work both ways; 1969 requires a [[Stable Time Loop]]. Perhaps you can trigger one if you work hard enough.
*** The time loop in "1969" is stable because the resolution of the loop does not prevent the creation of the loop. They don't tell past-Hammond not to let them go on the current mission. Even if time is mutable, since nothing critical to the loop changes when the loop is formed, it never goes away.
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== The Furlings did not call themselves that ==
The Ancients, Asgard, and Nox came up with that name, on the basis that the Furlings' own name for themselves was way too pretentious. I mean, seriously, "[[Doctor Who (TV)|the Time Lords]]"?
** *looks at her SG/DW crossover* That is now my personal canon. And it explains why you never see the Furlings- they all got time-locked on Gallifrey after the Last Great Time War, except the Doctor and the Master.
*** Picturing the Doctor as a giant teddy bear: Awesome.
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** Even more alternatively, [[Star Wars]] is a highly fictionalized version of a real war fought between different factions of Ancients in the Milky Way galaxy. It's referred to as being "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..." because it's being told to the modern inhabitants of Atlantis. It exists as fiction because someone told the story to Lucas on one of their unintentional time-traveling trips.
 
== Sylar from ''[[Heroes (TV series)|Heroes]]'' is the Father of the Shadows, and Peter Petrelli is the Father of the Vorlons of ''[[Babylon Five|Babylon 5]]'', after they encounter Dr. Jackson and/or O'Neil ==
At some point, Sylar will kill and "examine" either Daniel Jackson's or Jack O'Neill's mind, gain the Ancient knowledge, and ascend. Sylar decides to force his evolutionary theory upon the rest of the universe by creating the Shadows and "kicking over the anthills" to force the races to evolve. Peter, who at some point walked past the Stargate character that Sylar didn't kill, also ascends and tries to stop Sylar by creating the Vorlons.
 
== Lt. Mitchell and Vala are [[Farscape (TV)|John Crichton and Aeryn Sun]] on a deep undercover mission. ==
They managed to find a wormhole after all, and it eventually brought them back to Earth. John is interested in wormholes and their possible uses (including as doomsday weapons), so naturally he and his wife will be all over the Stargate project. They have been assigned by a deep, secretive Terran organization to monitor the SG-1 operation. Sadly, Scorpius attempted to come through the gate once to warn them of some Scarran shenanigans, but he got accidentally shunted off to the Ewoks' planet, which is why he never made a crossover to SG-1.
* Fortunately, if Scorpius ended up on Endor ''after'' the final battle in ''Return of the Jedi'', then... oh joy, [[No Endor Holocaust|Endor Holocaust!]]
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They changed the name to try to avoid the curse. But all in all, Sam's mother was lucky to live long enough to have two kids; and that was only because her husband, being in the military, was away a lot. Carter figured it out and joined the military for that reason. Her involvement with O'Neill was a sneaky way to fast-track to head of the team, but he stubbornly kept coming back to life.
 
== We may or may not be safe from the [[HPH.P. Lovecraft|Great Old Ones]]. ==
Facts: Carter blew up a star. The Ori and priors have done some nasty things, too. So, there is a possibility that the stars may ''never'' be right from now on. Of course, there is also the possibility that the Old Ones [[Xanatos Roulette|planned it all]] and ''needed'' that star destroyed to rise again...
 
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What? They even say that the last one is named Daniel. That could explain why he never dies. He's not coming back in a new and creative way every time. He's resurrecting!
 
== Hammond was killed by [[Death Note (Manga)|Kira]] ==
He died of a heart attack.
* Um, what possible reason would Kira have for killing Hammond? He kills criminals (and people who try to stop him, when he can get away with it). Hammond definitely wasn't a criminal, and would have no reason to try to stop him since it's not his jurisdiction and he's got bigger problems than a [[Serial Killer]] (i.e. keeping the entire planet from being overrun by aliens).
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One of Merlin's early efforts to combat the Ori was to create his own version of the Priors. These were the first human wizards. Upon discovering their ability to access the Wizard World, however, they lost interest in fighting the Ori, and Merlin instead set about building his superweapon.
== The wizards of ''[[Harry Potter]]'' are descended from Ancients stranded on Earth. ==
Think about it. Of all the pop culture references made in the [[Stargate Verse]], ''[[Harry Potter]]'' isn't mentioned once. In the [[PotterversePotter Verse]], we have no idea where wizards came from; but it seems to be genetic, and the oldest era we know they existed in is... [[Ancient Egypt]]. Yes, several ''Stargate'' characters have the Ancient Gene and never went to Hogwarts, but they could be Squibs that were given to Muggle families by disgusted wizarding parents.
** Dumbledore's body was never shown after his death because he [[Ascended to A Higher Plane of Existence]]. After {{spoiler|Harry's temporary death}} in book 7, Dumbledore attempted to ascend him as well. (Compare the "celestial train station" scene in Deathly Hallows to what Daniel experienced prior to his ascension.)
** [[Harry Potter Comics]] may embrace this idea, with members of the SGC being involved with a Christmas Eve plot of Voldemort. First seen in [https://web.archive.org/web/20110830183252/http://planescapecomic.com/harrypotter/100.html this comic]
** OOOO!!! Diagon Alley is out of phase!!!!!
* Wizards and Muggles could be the second evolution's version of the Ori and the Altereans, only with the the mystical ones outranking the science-y ones this time.
 
== The film ''[[Inception (Film)|Inception]]'' takes place in the Stargate universe ==
This one is actually pretty cut and dry, in Stargate: Atlantis they reveal that the military has reverse engineered alien shared dreaming technology, and military research is the only origin ever given for the shared dreaming tech in Inception. In ''Stargate [[SG -1]]'' they're even testing similar stuff with Tealc. There is nothing in ''Inception'' that would go against this.
 
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