Street Fighter X Tekken/WMG: Difference between revisions

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*** Recently, ''Street Fighter'' producer Yoshinori Ono said a collaboration with ''[[Mortal Kombat]]'' was "very unlikely" because it would involve the ''SF'' cast getting killed, which doesn't match the series' feel at all. So I think that proves ''Street Fighter'' will never involve player-inflicted death.

*** Also, both Street Fighter (Rose, Gen, Gouken and ''possibly'' Charlie Nash) and Tekken (Kazuya, Jun, Baek, Bruce, Wang, Lee, Armor King (in a way)) have had characters die only to come back in later games.

*** Of the above, the only character who is ''officially'' dead is Armor King I (you're also missing King I and Kuma I). Kazuya could maybe count as his return in ''Tekken 4'' was due to being [[Saved By the Fans]] while Gouken was [[Retcon|retconned]] from dead to [[Only Mostly Dead]] and in a [[Convenient Coma]], but the fates of Rose, Gen, Baek, Bruce, Wang, and Lee were left ambiguously open (with later games showing they were just fine), whereas Charlie and Jun are officially missing. Your argument (was that an argument or just a statement?) doesn't quite stand.

*** Of the above, the only character who is ''officially'' dead is Armor King I (you're also missing King I and Kuma I). Kazuya could maybe count as his return in ''Tekken 4'' was due to being [[Saved by the Fans]] while Gouken was [[Retcon|retconned]] from dead to [[Only Mostly Dead]] and in a [[Convenient Coma]], but the fates of Rose, Gen, Baek, Bruce, Wang, and Lee were left ambiguously open (with later games showing they were just fine), whereas Charlie and Jun are officially missing. Your argument (was that an argument or just a statement?) doesn't quite stand.

== In ''Tekken x Street Fighter'' / ''Street Fighter x Tekken'', King and Zangief will have their own tag-team ultra. ==

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** Jossed. Kuma is teamed-up with Heihachi.

== [[Street Fighter Alpha ~~(Video Game)~~|Sakura, Karin]], and [[Street Fighter IV ~~(Video Game)~~|Juri]] will be in ''SFxT''. ==

== [[Street Fighter Alpha|Sakura, Karin]], and [[Street Fighter IV|Juri]] will be in ''SFxT''. ==

Lili and Asuka have been leaked in the E3 trailer (Lili appears ''immediately'' when the trailer starts, about five seconds in; if you're quick, you can catch a glimpse of her boots) and Asuka appears as the cloaked figure Chun-Li confronts during [[The Stinger]]. As such, it only makes sense that their [[Alternate Company Equivalent|counterparts]] from ''SF'' make the cut as well. It doesn't hurt that they're [[Ensemble Darkhorse|quite popular]] and since they weren't featured in ''[[Marvel vs. Capcom 3 ~~(Video Game)~~|MvC3]]'', they have a good chance of making it here (especially since the [[Power Creep, Power Seep]] element won't be as noticeable since ''SF'' and ''Tekken'' are more evenly matched).

Lili and Asuka have been leaked in the E3 trailer (Lili appears ''immediately'' when the trailer starts, about five seconds in; if you're quick, you can catch a glimpse of her boots) and Asuka appears as the cloaked figure Chun-Li confronts during [[The Stinger]]. As such, it only makes sense that their [[Alternate Company Equivalent|counterparts]] from ''SF'' make the cut as well. It doesn't hurt that they're [[Ensemble Darkhorse|quite popular]] and since they weren't featured in ''[[Marvel vs. Capcom 3|MvC3]]'', they have a good chance of making it here (especially since the [[Power Creep, Power Seep]] element won't be as noticeable since ''SF'' and ''Tekken'' are more evenly matched).

As for Juri, Hwoarang's already confirmed for the game; [[Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny|you should see what I'm getting at here.]]

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* The latest teasers seem to indicate otherwise.

** Jossed. Karin has been deconfirmed by Lupinko, the guy who accurately predicted the cast of Marvel vs Capcom 3, Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3, Mortal Kombat 9 and Super Street Fighter 4.

** Sakura and Juri are definitely in, with Sakura being one of six DLC characters for [[PS 3]] but included for PS Vita, but Karin is not.

** Sakura and Juri are definitely in, with Sakura being one of six DLC characters for [[Play Station 3]] but included for PS Vita, but Karin is not.

** [[Word of God]] stated that Karin has copyright issues as well. Think Strider Hiryu in MVC3, similar problem.

== [[Street Fighter Alpha ~~(Video Game)~~|Dan Hibiki's]] death will have a major impact on the plot. ==

== [[Street Fighter Alpha|Dan Hibiki's]] death will have a major impact on the plot. ==

Let's face it, Kazuya's first big action in this game's history is to ''flat-out murder'' Dan in cold blood and drops the corpse on Ryu's doorstep. Seriously, you don't kill off one of the most iconic characters in the ''[[Street Fighter]]'' franchise in ''the goddamn teaser trailer'' of a long-awaited crossover between two big franchises without that death have some kind of impact on the game's story line.

** And now it seems he is having some impact on the plot...as the guy in charge of the game's tutorial. Furthermore, recent information from [[Word of God]] and [http://youtu.be/ueTm3SuvFHg this story promo] hint that Dan's spirit is trapped inside Pandora.

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== This game will feature two [[Original Generation|original]] fighters ==

And they will both resemble [[Namco X Capcom ~~(Video Game)~~|Reiji and Xiaomu]] somehow.

And they will both resemble [[Namco X Capcom|Reiji and Xiaomu]] somehow.

== Kazuya didn't kill Dan ==

Keep in mind they said "Dan is not alive in the timeline of ''SFxT''". They did not say "Kazuya killed Dan". Dan may be dead, but it might not be at Kazuya's hands. Hell, he might actually be ''playable'' and merely die in a canonical story mode - it worked for ''[[~~Mortal Kombat 9 (Video Game)|~~Mortal Kombat 9]]''.

Keep in mind they said "Dan is not alive in the timeline of ''SFxT''". They did not say "Kazuya killed Dan". Dan may be dead, but it might not be at Kazuya's hands. Hell, he might actually be ''playable'' and merely die in a canonical story mode - it worked for ''[[Mortal Kombat 9]]''.

* Jossed by [[Word of God]]. Ono noted in an interview that Dan is not playable on account of being killed by a Tekken character in a cinematic- that character being Kazuya.

== Cody & Guy are in the game ==

Since they weren't in ''[[~~Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (Video Game)|~~Marvel vs. Capcom 3]]'' & it would make no sense why ''Poison'' got into this game over the two of them considering she's never ''actually'' appeared in a ''[[Street Fighter]]'' game outside of a cameo. Plus they already have the character models & animations from ''SSFIV'' & it would make no sense to get the voice actors in just to record one line a piece at the end of the SDCC trailer.

Since they weren't in ''[[Marvel vs. Capcom 3]]'' & it would make no sense why ''Poison'' got into this game over the two of them considering she's never ''actually'' appeared in a ''[[Street Fighter]]'' game outside of a cameo. Plus they already have the character models & animations from ''SSFIV'' & it would make no sense to get the voice actors in just to record one line a piece at the end of the SDCC trailer.

* Additionally, [http://www.capcom-unity.com/snow_infernus/blog/2011/08/08/comic-con_live_stream_recordings_-_every_minute_plus_everything_else one of the voice actors] slipped up during Comic-Con and stated that Michael T. Coleman (the VA of Cody from ''SSFIV'')... was voicing Cody. He immediately stopped himself and went on to a different subject. Hmm...

** Cody ''was'' voiced. In the Comic-Con trailer. It is still unknown if he's actually in the game.

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== C.Viper will be in the game ==

''Tekken'' has a family theme, C. Viper is a mom... and part of the CIA. And who doesn't want to see her go all ''[[Mama Bear]]'' because the ''Tekken'' side attacked her kid?

** Then again, C. Viper had her fun in both ''[[~~Marvel vs. Capcom 3 (Video Game)|~~Marvel vs. Capcom 3]]'' and ''Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3''. Maybe let some of the other new SFIV characters shine?

** Then again, C. Viper had her fun in both ''[[Marvel vs. Capcom 3]]'' and ''Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3''. Maybe let some of the other new SFIV characters shine?

** Jossed. All characters have been revealed for [[S Fx T]], and unless there's more character DLC planned, chances are she won't be present.

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== [[Final Fight|Rolento and Sodom]] are in the game ==

Ono has said that Rolento was one of the characters that he wanted to add to [[~~Street Fighter IV (Video Game)|~~Street Fighter IV]], and signs also say that 'Sodom is behind you.' As two leaders of the Mad Gear Gang, as well as the two that transitioned over to the [[~~Street Fighter Alpha (Video Game)|~~Street Fighter Alpha]] series, they would be unique roster additions with distinctive playstyles.

Ono has said that Rolento was one of the characters that he wanted to add to [[Street Fighter IV]], and signs also say that 'Sodom is behind you.' As two leaders of the Mad Gear Gang, as well as the two that transitioned over to the [[Street Fighter Alpha]] series, they would be unique roster additions with distinctive playstyles.

** Rolento has been confirmed.

** But he's canonically paired with Ibuki. No hints of Sodom yet (besides a stage cameo alongside several other Mad Gear Gang members), or who he'd be accompanying.

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== The final boss would be... ==

Capcom would have the liberty to choose whether to re-use a boss from Street Fighter or Tekken for the game, albeit powered with the Pandora energy (since that seems to be the main focus story-wise for the game). The best bet would be to use either:

* [[Street Fighter III ~~(Video Game)~~|Gill]]: Gill (and the Illuminati, his organization for that matter) originates from space. Considering the fact that the Pandora cube came from outer space, one could imply that it was an artifact that originated from the group. Plus, ''Street Fighter III'' regained its former popularity coming from the [[PS 3]]/360 [[Updated Rerelease|online edition]], so Capcom can capitalize on the opportunity to put him as final boss. Here's to the omission of his goddamned [[That One Attack|Seraphic Wing super art]].

* [[Street Fighter III|Gill]]: Gill (and the Illuminati, his organization for that matter) originates from space. Considering the fact that the Pandora cube came from outer space, one could imply that it was an artifact that originated from the group. Plus, ''Street Fighter III'' regained its former popularity coming from the [[Play Station 3]]/360 [[Updated Rerelease|online edition]], so Capcom can capitalize on the opportunity to put him as final boss. Here's to the omission of his goddamned [[That One Attack|Seraphic Wing super art]].

* [[Tekken|Unknown]]: Looking at the previous bosses in the Tekken series, it seems that the final bosses of the main series get more popularity in the other games (i.e. Jinpachi and True Ogre get [[Demoted to Extra]] in Tag Tournament 2). There could be a [[Shocking Swerve]] like having the Pandora cube being related to Unknown and her mysterious energy, or something like that. Plus, she could function as a [[Mirror Boss]], to make things interesting.

** It's implied that Akuma and/or Ogre are the final bosses of [[S Fx T]].

== [[Uncharted|Nathan Drake]] should be [[~~In Famous~~ (~~Video~~ ~~Game~~)|Cole's]] partner ==

== [[Uncharted|Nathan Drake]] should be [[Infamous (video game series)|Cole's]] partner ==

The [[Badass Normal]] Nathan Drake fought against zombies and survived so much shit that would normally kill a regular dude, so who's stopping him from kicking the asses of [[Acrofatic|Bob]] or [[The Juggernaut|Hugo]] alongside fellow Playstation hero Cole Macgrath?

Gameplay-wise, Nathan could use a combination of hand-to-hand combat alongside his various firearms to make for some kick-ass attacks like [[Resident Evil|Chris]] [[Marvel vs. Capcom 3 ~~(Video Game)~~|Redfield]] or [[Metal Gear Solid|Solid]] [[Super Smash Bros|Snake]].

Gameplay-wise, Nathan could use a combination of hand-to-hand combat alongside his various firearms to make for some kick-ass attacks like [[Resident Evil|Chris]] [[Marvel vs. Capcom 3|Redfield]] or [[Metal Gear Solid|Solid]] [[Super Smash Bros|Snake]].

* I'm going to have to disagree with you and say that I wholly hope this ''doesn't'' happen. The game's already has ''three'' [[Guest Fighter|Guest Fighters]], all of them Sony-exclusives, and all of them souring the fanbase. The last two, in fact, was Ono pulling one over the fanbase by taking a poll for characters fans wanted to see in the game (in which Dan was soundly beating the rest of the competition) and then crossing out Dan's name to replace it with Toro and Kuro at the very last second. I don't think that ''another'' guest who detracts from the whole ''Street Fighter'' vs. ''Tekken'' theme of the game (and is again exclusive to Sony, which is bound to ''not'' go over well with 360 fanboys) is going to be a good idea.

* You do have a point though. So how the hell will Microsoft manage to bounce back for the 360 version, considering that the Cole, Kuro and Toro are [[PS 3]]-exclusives? I don't really see somebody from [[Halo]] or [[Gears of War]] making into the cut.

* You do have a point though. So how the hell will Microsoft manage to bounce back for the 360 version, considering that the Cole, Kuro and Toro are [[Play Station 3]]-exclusives? I don't really see somebody from [[Halo]] or [[Gears of War]] making into the cut.

** Banjo and Kazooie, or Blinx.

** All characters appear to have been confirmed, so no partner for Cole.

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* Most likely confirmed in their ending, {{spoiler|where Nina tries to prevent Kazuya from getting his hands on Pandora. Kazuya, expecting this, summons a horde of G Corp. soldiers. Nina hightails it out of there, but not before going to town on everyone except for Kazuya, [[One-Man Army|One Woman Army]]-style.}}

== [[~~In Famous~~ (~~Video~~ ~~Game~~)|Cole's]] inclusion in [[S Fx T]] (story-line wise) Note: spoilers for ''[[Video Game]]/inFamous 2'' follow ==

== [[Infamous (video game series)|Cole's]] inclusion in [[S Fx T]] (story-line wise) Note: spoilers for ''[[Video Game]]/inFamous 2'' follow ==

It's a given that this Cole is from ''inFamous 2'', since he has the new look, the Amp, and the [[Limit Break|Ionic Powers]]. Now, it's a little weird to see Cole retain his neutral look, since by the end of ''inFamous 2'', he's either {{spoiler|[[Heroic Sacrifice|dead]] or [[He Who Fights Monsters|the most evil and powerful being in the universe]].}} So there can be several ([[Fake Crossover|obviously non-canon]] reasons for his being present in ''[[S Fx T]]'':

* 1. Cole {{spoiler|came back from the dead. If one takes note of the ?-shaped lightning bolt that strikes the boat where Cole's body is on during the Hero ending, it could be implied that Cole could have been revived (fuck if I know how).}} Hence his inclusion in [[S Fx T]]. It would be easier to branch his appearance off the Hero ending as opposed to the Infamous ending, since {{spoiler|the only way to de-power Beast Cole would end up killing him,}} and besides, Cole looks more of the hero-type than his Infamous version. (Troper's note: It wouldn't hurt to see {{spoiler|Beast}} Cole for his Pandora mode)

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In other words, Dan is a [[Star Wars|Jedi]]. [[The Empire Strikes Back|Search your feelings, you know this to be true]].

== Pacman and [[Mega Man (~~Video~~ ~~Game~~)|Mega Man]] will be included. ==

== Pacman and [[Mega Man (video game)|Mega Man]] will be included. ==

Look at this [http://media.eventhubs.com/images/2012/01/17_megapachin.jpg photo.] That is all.

* Confirmed, though both are only available on [[Play Station]] systems as DLC which is released a week after the game is, and not as you know them.

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== There will be a [[Guest Fighter]] or more in the Xbox 360 version. ==

Last time I checked, neither Sony nor Microsoft have any exclusive rights to either [[Mega Man (~~Video~~ ~~Game~~)|Mega Man]] or Pac-Man, so they might be included in the final product (despite the news that the 360 will have no guest fighters.) Besides, [[Halo|Master Chief]] and [[Gears of War|Marcus Fenix]] could still make it as DLC.

Last time I checked, neither Sony nor Microsoft have any exclusive rights to either [[Mega Man (video game)|Mega Man]] or Pac-Man, so they might be included in the final product (despite the news that the 360 will have no guest fighters.) Besides, [[Halo|Master Chief]] and [[Gears of War|Marcus Fenix]] could still make it as DLC.

** Jossed, NO guest characters will show up on the 360 version.

*** I Joss your Jossed. Pac Man and Mega Man are on the 360.