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* [[Broken Base]]:
** Despite getting solid reviews and considered one of the better RPG outings on the DS, ''[[Suikoden Tierkreis]]'' annoyed many fans due to its lack of [[Continuity Nod]].
** ''[[Suikoden III]]'' was this before ''Tierkreis''. Despite getting excellent reviews from most markets, the fanbase was broken, largely over [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks|changes to the battle system]]. Worth noting is that it was a very dramatic breaking; most fans either thought it was [[Ruined FOREVER]]
** ''[[Suikoden IV]]'' got it even worse for [[Arbitrary Headcount Limit|limiting the player to four party members]], [[Goddamned Bats|upping the random encounter rate]], and shortening the overall length of the game (it's not hard to beat the whole thing in 20 hours with 108 stars, whereas it's nearly impossible to get through ''Suikoden III'' in under 40 or so), and being set 150 years before all the other game... so the only returning characters are/were very minor in their previous/later appearances. Particularly, the combination of the smaller party size and shorter game made it very hard to get to know most of the cast.
* [[Complete Monster]]: Neclord and Luca Blight (and how!).▼
▲** [[Suikoden IV]] got it even worse for [[Arbitrary Headcount Limit|limiting the player to four party members]], [[Goddamned Bats|upping the random encounter rate]], and shortening the overall length of the game (it's not hard to beat the whole thing in 20 hours with 108 stars, whereas it's nearly impossible to get through III in under 40 or so), and being set 150 years before all the other game... so the only returning characters are/were very minor in their previous/later appearances. Particularly, the combination of the smaller party size and shorter game made it very hard to get to know most of the cast.
* [[Crazy Awesome]]: Maximilian.
▲* [[Complete Monster]]: Neclord and Luca Blight (and how!)
* [[Crowning Music of Awesome]]: Every game has at least one track which is just plain awesome either due to the music itself or the scene in which it's played.
** II gets several, particularly the [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f4eGQ9MIWM opening sequence] before the title screen, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXuJ2cHx7Aw Gothic Neclord], and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MX8fKtjpr_E The Chase ~ Battle Against Luca].
** Though it has several of its own as well, V's is arguably [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUklWjawYno Determination ~ Tragic Battle] which you hear bits and pieces of in several spots in the later half of the game, but it isn't played in full and you don't get its full impact until {{spoiler|the battle versus Sialeeds}}.
** As a whole, III's soundtrack wasn't quite as memorable, but [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YmQoREyleE&feature=related this opening sequence] = instant goosebumps.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Pesmerga. This guy is always a late-joiner, doesn't contribute to the plot, and can be accused of [[Cool but Inefficient|Cool, But Inefficient]] (lack of rune slot and options for customization). And he's only in for 2 games. His fanbase is huge, thanks to his connection with Yuber as well as his badass [[Black Knight]] attire, and his default powerful stats for those who just doesn't want to bother with customization.
* [[Fetish Fuel Station Attendant]]: Jeane and Mina.
* [[Game Breaker]]:
** Viki in ''Suikoden V'', whose powerful Chain Magic ability- once trained up- lets her cast incredibly powerful spells twice in a row at no additional MP cost, letting you wipe out enemies with astounding ease. Not to mention [[Black Mage|Zerase]]'s completely overpowered [[Pure Energy|Star Rune]], and [[Master Swordsman|Richard]]'s [[Lightning Bruiser|godly stats]].
*** Viki isn't quite so broken as she seems; her non-removable Blinking Rune isn't that great, and the position it's stuck in means that she can never equip a Magic Absorb Rune. Meanwhile, the Magic Absorb Rune itself is ''even more'' of a game-breaker in that game
** Georg Prime in ''Suikoden V'' has great stats and starts out with a rune that increases his critical rate and gives him a small chance of instantly killing enemies. There's a reason the game significantly limits your ability to actually put him in your party.
** How on earth did this section exist without Emily ([[Suikoden I|Ronnie Bell]]'s daughter) from ''[[Suikoden III]]''? Train up Emily, give her a Fury or Double-Strike rune and watch her obliterate any boss in one round before they even have a chance to make one move. Her only limitation is that she doesn't have Continual Attack, which [[The Berserker|Juan]] does (he starts every battle asleep
** In ''Suikoden IV'', the team of the hero, Kika, Ted
** Sheena can be turned into a [[Game Breaker]] at higher levels in ''Suikoden II''.
** The more powerful unite attacks in the series can become this as well.
** Georg in ''Suikoden V'' can be a [[Game Breaker]] in the right hands. Although slapping a Double-Edged Rune on him is risky, since his magic defense is poor, he can pretty much rip a huge hole in almost anything with one on. For that matter, Isabel, Mathias and Miakis have devastating setups too.
** Tir and [[Old Master|Kai]]'s [[Combination Attack]] in ''Suikoden I''. Auto-hits every enemy in the fight for twice normal damage. Say goodbye to random encounters that last more than one turn. Tir also happens to have a spell that means [[One-Hit Kill|instant death]] to every [[Contractual Boss Immunity|non-boss in the fight]]... which ''always works'', unlike [[Useless Useful Spell|instant death attacks in nearly every other game]].
** In the first game, if you manage to find the final water rune and the final wind rune and manage to have two people in your party use their final spells, you will hit all of the enemies on the screen ''[[For Massive Damage]]'' and heal most of your health at the same time. This is particularly useful for the later boss fights, especially the last boss fight.
** In the first game, there are a couple of exploits for taking a detour from the [[
* [[Ho Yay]]/[[Les Yay]]:
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: The evil inclined Silverbergs tend to turn into these. Strangely enough, so does Jowy.▼
** Its easy to read Gremio being this towards [[The Hero]] in the first game. Almost every sentence he speaks relates in some way to the "young master". Though he claims he thinks of Tir as more of a son or brother.
** Why not include Shu (from II) in there while you're at it? I mean, look at his strategies: Using poorly-armed members of the North Window Base as a diversion, as well as throwing poor Pilika out as crossbow shield too.▼
** Lucretia from ''Suikoden V'', with both Cathari and Lelei. Lelei has a decidedly suggestive scene where she suggests that Lucretia not go to bed just yet on the night before the big battle, while Cathari notes that she and Lucretia were "more than just friends" when she joins.
** And then there's ''most'' of the [[Furo Scene|bath scenes]].
** Richard's complete and utter admiration of Mueller in ''Suikoden V'' borderlines this.
** Basically ''any'' of the male Narcissists, especially when they interact with each other.
** Riou and Jowy from the second game certainly apply.
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]:
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* [[Memetic Badass]]: Georg Prime, the Chuck Norris of Suikoden universe.
* [[Moe]]: Viki and Meg.
* [[Moral Event Horizon]]: Many of the villains indulge in this, but it is Luca Blight who takes it to an art form.
* [[Narm]]: In the first game, Viktor ruins a legitimately cool/dramatic scene on confronting Milich with this one line:
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* [[Player Punch]]:
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** Almost any scene involving Pilika in ''Suikoden II''. Also {{spoiler|Nanami's "death" scene in Rockaxe}}.▼
** In ''Suikoden II'', the main trio is saved by Anabelle, mayor of Muse, who take them under her wing after they are exiled for a crime they didn't commit. {{spoiler|In order to get closer to Lucca and put himself in a position of power within the Highland army, Jowy ends up betraying her by assassinating her in the middle of the night and by opening the gates of Muse, allowing the Highland army to launch a surprise attack. The main protagonist and his sister Nanami are left dumbfounded by this turn of events, and to top it all, the crime is pinned on them}}.
** In ''[[Suikoden]] V'', {{spoiler|Sialeeds' betrayal}} took many players by surprise. This event upsets a lot of characters, and especially your protagonist: while Luserina tries to comfort him, the protagonist just turns around and walks off. You aren't even given the opportunity to select a dialogue option like usual. The {{spoiler|betrayal}} cut so deep that the player doesn't have their word on the matter: the silent protagonist is just too distraught and wants to be alone. Another [[Player Punch]] is {{spoiler|Lyon's sudden death}}, though this can be averted with [[100% Completion]].
* [[The Scrappy]]: We may as well rename the second to last Star as 'The Star of Scrappies' since it mostly produces hatedom-generating characters, such as Krin, Hoi
▲* [[Player Punch]]: Nearly every game in the series contains at at least one star's death in the storyline and one important character's betrayal; generally, the main death is reversible or avertable if you collect all 108 stars of destiny, while the betrayal is not. These all tend to be player punches to some degree... At least one person went into deep mourning after {{spoiler|Sialeeds' betrayal}} in ''[[Suikoden]] V''. A much, ''much'' worse [[Player Punch]] is {{spoiler|Lyon's sudden death}}, though this can be averted with [[Hundred-Percent Completion]].
▲** Almost any scene involving Pilika in Suikoden II. Also {{spoiler|Nanami's "death" scene in Rockaxe}}.
▲*** What!? Nothing on the deaths of Yun and Jimba in III?! You can't reverse either one, which makes this Troper sad because the only time to use Jimba is before you start the Cyndar Ruins story.
▲* [[The Scrappy]]: We may as well rename the second to last Star as 'The Star of Scrappies' since it mostly produces hatedom-generating characters, such as Krin, Hoi, Guillaume... (Roy is [[Your Mileage May Vary|debatable]] due to his story importance). There's also Kenji (not of the same Star), who is disliked due to his ridiculous fighting style. I mean... using aerobics and jogging to fight!? Can't forget Snowe either.
* [[That One Sidequest]]: Assembling all of the Stars of Destiny.
* [[Too Cool to Live]]: Let´s see...
** In ''Suikoden I'', you have {{spoiler|Ted (your best friend)}} the original host of the Soul Eater. Arguably {{spoiler|Teo (your father)}} could count as well but that would be more of Too Stubborn/Loyal to live. To some, {{spoiler|Odessa}} could very much count, but {{spoiler|her death}} did help Flik into [[Character Development|developing]] to the fan favorite we all know and love this day.
** In ''Suikoden II'', you have Genkaku (your father figure) and {{spoiler|Annabelle (Muse´s mayor)}}.
** In ''Suikoden III'', you have {{spoiler|Jimba
** In ''Suikoden IV'', you have {{spoiler|Glenn the chief of the Knights of Razriel and your father figure (more or less)}}.
** In the latest entry ''Suikoden V'',
* [[Toy Ship]]: Cecile/Thomas in the third game, as the result of her adorable [[Bodyguard Crush]].
* [[The Woobie]]:
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