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** Army battles in the series have always varied in quality, but the ship battles this time around don't feature any special tactics, interesting maneuvers, or surprises about your enemies' capabilities—you're basically playing rock-paper-scissors against someone missing their first two fingers. Even worse by comparison to ''[[Suikoden V]]'', which features both more interesting and larger-scale naval battles despite those battles being confined to a mere river while ''[[Suikoden IV]]'' is on the open ocean. In ''Suikoden IV'', the number of ships involved is always in the single digits, turning what are supposed to be major engagements into mere skirmishes.
*** Also about the naval battles, when two ships gets close enough, it starts a normal battle between your assigned fighter and the enemy's. The problem is that you can only attack or defend, making mages useless. Losing said battle also causes the ship to sink instantly, regardless of HP.
* [[That One Sidequest]]: The [[Battle Tops]] minigame. If you want to collect every Window Set, Old book and Treasure Map, you have to play it. Basil will reward you depending on your number of consecutive victories: 5 wins grants you the "Window Set 2", for 10 wins you get the "Old Book 2", and for '''20 WINS''' you get Treasure Map 14. The problem is that you cannot lose not even once; if you win four times and lose the fifth match, your score resets and you will have to start over.
* [[Viewer Gender Confusion]] - In-world example: Wendel, a [[Tomboy|Tomboyish]] [[Action Girl]] who declares herself the apprentice of Nico, your ship's lookout. Who, despite his frequently-praised vision and having her constantly hanging around him, thinks she's a guy.
* [[The Woobie]] - In a sense, Snowe is this [[Gone Horribly Wrong]]; he'd be more sympathetic if he weren't [[Too Dumb to Live|so damn]] ''[[Too Dumb to Live|dense]]''.
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