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== [[Super Robot Wars/WMG|Super Robot Wars]] ==
== Super Robot Wars ==
== Each story choice in the [[Super Robot Wars Alpha|Alpha]] series is connected to the next game ==
== Each story choice in the [[Super Robot Wars Alpha|Alpha]] series is connected to the next game ==
In Alpha 3, each character's storyline features the appearance of a protagonist from Alpha 2, effectively continuing their storyline. Alpha 1, by contrast, had eight templates from which the player chose two. But, going by their characterizations in the Original Generation games, you can draw a continuation line of the Alpha 2 and 3 stories to one of each pairing:
In Alpha 3, each character's storyline features the appearance of a protagonist from Alpha 2, effectively continuing their storyline. Alpha 1, by contrast, had eight templates from which the player chose two. But, going by their characterizations in the Original Generation games, you can draw a continuation line of the Alpha 2 and 3 stories to one of each pairing:
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** But that theory with the Crossgates can't be used because the big Crossgates were created by the Einst when they were trying to go back to their own home universe and the little ones were created by Formido Heim with the data they found inside of "Tinkerbell" which leave implicit that those ones were created with data of the XN System, and actually the Endless Frontier it's just one world that was separated into other worlds with that row of hexagonal pillars called "Endless Frontier" which was created because of the Einst when they create the Crossgates. But maybe they can still be connected with the theory I formulate which I call "The Theory of the Shadow-Mirror/TSAB Incident" which says that maybe, when the Shadow-Mirror's army were traveling to the Original Generation universe they were detected by a TSAB battleship, and they try to arrest the Shadow-Mirror because they were considered hostile but then, the Shadow-Mirror attacks the TSAB battleship to distract them to they could get the oppotunity to escape but, in self-defense, the TSAB counterattack them and end up damaging the well-known Shadow-Mirror's Trilobite-Class Carrier "Neverland" causing it to desviate to the Endless Frontier where the carrier explode over Lost Herencia due to the damage and making that the back part which contained the the W Series crash below where it explode and the aerodynamic front part of the "Neverland" which contained the main computer "Tinkerbell" and the W-10 Arkgain was still descending until it crash in Formido Heim and then we all know what happens later on the story.
** But that theory with the Crossgates can't be used because the big Crossgates were created by the Einst when they were trying to go back to their own home universe and the little ones were created by Formido Heim with the data they found inside of "Tinkerbell" which leave implicit that those ones were created with data of the XN System, and actually the Endless Frontier it's just one world that was separated into other worlds with that row of hexagonal pillars called "Endless Frontier" which was created because of the Einst when they create the Crossgates. But maybe they can still be connected with the theory I formulate which I call "The Theory of the Shadow-Mirror/TSAB Incident" which says that maybe, when the Shadow-Mirror's army were traveling to the Original Generation universe they were detected by a TSAB battleship, and they try to arrest the Shadow-Mirror because they were considered hostile but then, the Shadow-Mirror attacks the TSAB battleship to distract them to they could get the oppotunity to escape but, in self-defense, the TSAB counterattack them and end up damaging the well-known Shadow-Mirror's Trilobite-Class Carrier "Neverland" causing it to desviate to the Endless Frontier where the carrier explode over Lost Herencia due to the damage and making that the back part which contained the the W Series crash below where it explode and the aerodynamic front part of the "Neverland" which contained the main computer "Tinkerbell" and the W-10 Arkgain was still descending until it crash in Formido Heim and then we all know what happens later on the story.


== [[Super Robot Wars Alpha|Sanger Zonvolt]] is the father of [[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha|Alicia Testarossa]] ==
== [[Super Robot Wars Alpha|Sanger Zonvolt]] is the father of [[Lyrical Nanoha|Alicia Testarossa]] ==
Don't ask me how Precia got to him, or at least his genetic material, but there's no other explanation for Fate having a sword like that. [http://youtube.com/watch?v=e8oT60OcL7M the resemblance is just uncanny].
Don't ask me how Precia got to him, or at least his genetic material, but there's no other explanation for Fate having a sword like that. [http://youtube.com/watch?v=e8oT60OcL7M the resemblance is just uncanny].
* Alternativly, Precia used Lemon's W-series data to build Fate; specifically, Wodan Ymir, as he is the one who despite being a Clone/Robot behaved like his former self.
* Alternativly, Precia used Lemon's W-series data to build Fate; specifically, Wodan Ymir, as he is the one who despite being a Clone/Robot behaved like his former self.
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Okay this may be a bit off, but it is possible that the Shadow Mirror La Gias is twisted beyond hell that it creates something like Asakim out of the Masaki of that dimension. Perhaps the La Gias inside that dimension is anti-La Gias, instead of mildly peaceful with occasional civil wars here and there, it could be a La Gias where Shiva Volkruss prevails and rules with an iron fist. Masaki was a [[Heroic Sociopath]] at first, when one of his sociopathy turned into a sin that got him caught and cursed with immortality and becomes Asakim, the more he spends his time, the more he forgot about his 'Heroic' part and turns into a [[Complete Monster]] who only cared about [[Death Seeker|how to get himself killed]].
Okay this may be a bit off, but it is possible that the Shadow Mirror La Gias is twisted beyond hell that it creates something like Asakim out of the Masaki of that dimension. Perhaps the La Gias inside that dimension is anti-La Gias, instead of mildly peaceful with occasional civil wars here and there, it could be a La Gias where Shiva Volkruss prevails and rules with an iron fist. Masaki was a [[Heroic Sociopath]] at first, when one of his sociopathy turned into a sin that got him caught and cursed with immortality and becomes Asakim, the more he spends his time, the more he forgot about his 'Heroic' part and turns into a [[Complete Monster]] who only cared about [[Death Seeker|how to get himself killed]].


Like how Asakim is Not-Masaki, there could also be Not-Yang Long, Not-Tytti and Not-Mio, with their dark versions of Granveil, Goddess and Zamzeed. They could be allies to Asakim when he was Masaki, but were also punished and now went separate ways, becoming [[Complete Monster|Complete Monsters]] in their own way; or they could be part of the corrupted La Gias who were responsible of capturing and punishing Asakim with immortality. And besides, if you want to imagine how Not-Tytti sounds, it's easy. Just imagine [[Guilty Gear|one certain megalomaniacal guitar-wielding bitch]].
Like how Asakim is Not-Masaki, there could also be Not-Yang Long, Not-Tytti and Not-Mio, with their dark versions of Granveil, Goddess and Zamzeed. They could be allies to Asakim when he was Masaki, but were also punished and now went separate ways, becoming [[Complete Monster]]s in their own way; or they could be part of the corrupted La Gias who were responsible of capturing and punishing Asakim with immortality. And besides, if you want to imagine how Not-Tytti sounds, it's easy. Just imagine [[Guilty Gear|one certain megalomaniacal guitar-wielding bitch]].
* That's assuming that they start focusing on La Gias again and bring the other Elemental Lords back into the games at some point in the future. That might be possible considering Asakim's introduction might mean they'll be focusing more on the Mosukishin storyline in the future. Alternately, La Gias wasn't really that different from other versions, but something horrible happened to Masaki in that world that warped him beyond recognition and turned Cybuster into Shouroga. His sin is that he killed the other Elemental Lords, and maybe more than just them, in a fit of [[With Great Power Comes Great Insanity|insanity]] as a result of this change. For this, he was cursed with immortality and banished. This would explain why he's so emo and determined to break the curse, no matter what it took. In this case, he wouldn't be a [[Heroic Sociopath]] who forgot the "heroic" part, but a guy like the Masaki we all know who got [[Trauma Conga Line|broken really badly]] and [[Jumping Off the Slippery Slope|fell down the slippery slope]] pretty hard after, eventually becoming the [[Complete Monster]] from Z, or just went plain crazy. Either way, Asakim's a [[Fallen Hero]]. Doesn't change the fact that he's a bastard though.
* That's assuming that they start focusing on La Gias again and bring the other Elemental Lords back into the games at some point in the future. That might be possible considering Asakim's introduction might mean they'll be focusing more on the Mosukishin storyline in the future. Alternately, La Gias wasn't really that different from other versions, but something horrible happened to Masaki in that world that warped him beyond recognition and turned Cybuster into Shouroga. His sin is that he killed the other Elemental Lords, and maybe more than just them, in a fit of [[With Great Power Comes Great Insanity|insanity]] as a result of this change. For this, he was cursed with immortality and banished. This would explain why he's so emo and determined to break the curse, no matter what it took. In this case, he wouldn't be a [[Heroic Sociopath]] who forgot the "heroic" part, but a guy like the Masaki we all know who got [[Trauma Conga Line|broken really badly]] and [[Jumping Off the Slippery Slope|fell down the slippery slope]] pretty hard after, eventually becoming the [[Complete Monster]] from Z, or just went plain crazy. Either way, Asakim's a [[Fallen Hero]]. Doesn't change the fact that he's a bastard though.
** We're not sure if Asakim's sin is killing his dimension's versions of Yang Long, Tytti and Mio. In any case, it's also possible that the three could return evil, in separate games. In fact, if SRW K still deals with the Holy War that Asakim mentions, one of them (corrupted version) may make appearance there. OR, if they don't want to bother with that, they could turn Yang Long and Tytti into their respective Ruina generals Ignis and Glacies. But that'll mean leaving Mio out... unless of course, Mio never appeared and Ricardo is the only Herald of Zamzeed, and his death went uncorrupted.
** We're not sure if Asakim's sin is killing his dimension's versions of Yang Long, Tytti and Mio. In any case, it's also possible that the three could return evil, in separate games. In fact, if SRW K still deals with the Holy War that Asakim mentions, one of them (corrupted version) may make appearance there. OR, if they don't want to bother with that, they could turn Yang Long and Tytti into their respective Ruina generals Ignis and Glacies. But that'll mean leaving Mio out... unless of course, Mio never appeared and Ricardo is the only Herald of Zamzeed, and his death went uncorrupted.
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* Typically, a series is given a three-year minimum waiting period before being used in a game, to minimize spoilers. However, in rare cases (namely, [[Gundam Seed]]), if a show is popular enough, they'll use it early. So this is doable.
* Typically, a series is given a three-year minimum waiting period before being used in a game, to minimize spoilers. However, in rare cases (namely, [[Gundam Seed]]), if a show is popular enough, they'll use it early. So this is doable.
** That settled, let's try to guess what role they would have in the plot. I personally think that they'll use the post-timeskip designs for everyone who survived the first arc and put them alongside anyone who didn't make it. After all, SRW is 90% [[Rule of Cool]] anyway. The plot itself would obviously involve Kamina punching [[Neon Genesis Evangelion|Gendo.]] [[Fan Service|Repeatedly.]]
** That settled, let's try to guess what role they would have in the plot. I personally think that they'll use the post-timeskip designs for everyone who survived the first arc and put them alongside anyone who didn't make it. After all, SRW is 90% [[Rule of Cool]] anyway. The plot itself would obviously involve Kamina punching [[Neon Genesis Evangelion|Gendo.]] [[Fan Service|Repeatedly.]]
*** The three-year rule isn't true anyway; as one example, consider that ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam F91]]'', which hit theaters March 16th 1991, was in the original SRW, release date April 20th 1991. Either way, ''[[Code Geass|Geass]]'' and ''[[Gurren Lagann]]'' are both big enough that if said rule did matter, they'd be prime candidates for breaking it, probably along with ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam 00]]'' once it finishes. That said, [[This Troper]] predicts ''Geass'' Season 1 in Z2 and ''R2'' and ''GL'' in Z3.
*** The three-year rule isn't true anyway; as one example, consider that ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam F91]]'', which hit theaters March 16, 1991, was in the original SRW, release date April 20, 1991. Either way, ''[[Code Geass|Geass]]'' and ''[[Gurren Lagann]]'' are both big enough that if said rule did matter, they'd be prime candidates for breaking it, probably along with ''[[Mobile Suit Gundam 00]]'' once it finishes. That said, [[This Troper]] predicts ''Geass'' Season 1 in Z2 and ''R2'' and ''GL'' in Z3.
**** [[This Troper]] believes that Nunally should also get the mecha from the spin-off manga ''Knightmare of Nunally''. I don't care if SRW only adapts anime, Nunally must kick butt, darn it!
**** [[This Troper]] believes that Nunally should also get the mecha from the spin-off manga ''Knightmare of Nunally''. I don't care if SRW only adapts anime, Nunally must kick butt, darn it!
***** Both Crossbone Gundam, and Red and Blue Frame Astrays have appeared in SRW, so it's not impossible....
***** Both Crossbone Gundam, and Red and Blue Frame Astrays have appeared in SRW, so it's not impossible....
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If they keep the dimensional conflict theme and darker tone that is. The dimensional robots like Zearth are yet another creation of Taichi as tools to destroy ''unworthy'' worlds, indirectly force the Sphere holders to finish the holy war. And the game possibly being first that loaded with [[Bad Ending]] with worlds being destroyed left and right.
If they keep the dimensional conflict theme and darker tone that is. The dimensional robots like Zearth are yet another creation of Taichi as tools to destroy ''unworthy'' worlds, indirectly force the Sphere holders to finish the holy war. And the game possibly being first that loaded with [[Bad Ending]] with worlds being destroyed left and right.
* And to add some interesting battle, Bokurano stage will feature ''alternate'' player team on enemy side (you known, every [[Super Robot]] love their world). It would be cool if two version of Gaiking and Mazinger crash, and you damn the ''other side'' to perish forever.
* And to add some interesting battle, Bokurano stage will feature ''alternate'' player team on enemy side (you known, every [[Super Robot]] love their world). It would be cool if two version of Gaiking and Mazinger crash, and you damn the ''other side'' to perish forever.
** Pah. Far, ''far'', '''''far''''' more awesome would be a recreation of the @3 manga's final battle, where the two sides [[Take a Third Option]] and team up to blow the bad guys right out of the universe. Bonus points if the "enemy" force contains the [[Original Generation|Original Generations]] regulars, and ''monster'' bonus points if we get a team attack from [[Super Robot Wars Original Generations|Sanger]] and [[Super Robot Wars Alpha|Sanger]] and Wodan.
** Pah. Far, ''far'', '''''far''''' more awesome would be a recreation of the @3 manga's final battle, where the two sides [[Take a Third Option]] and team up to blow the bad guys right out of the universe. Bonus points if the "enemy" force contains the [[Original Generation]]s regulars, and ''monster'' bonus points if we get a team attack from [[Super Robot Wars Original Generations|Sanger]] and [[Super Robot Wars Alpha|Sanger]] and Wodan.


== [[Super Robot Wars K|Mist Rex]] is from a race that is part of the Zuvorg Alliance ==
== [[Super Robot Wars K|Mist Rex]] is from a race that is part of the Zuvorg Alliance ==
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* It will be divided into two parts like the original. The first will feature Asakim as someone similar to Masaki, and his punishment is inflicted on him at the end of that act. The second half will pick up after the last of the "normal" Z-games, featuring all the surviving Banpresto originals working together to finally defeat the Taichi.
* It will be divided into two parts like the original. The first will feature Asakim as someone similar to Masaki, and his punishment is inflicted on him at the end of that act. The second half will pick up after the last of the "normal" Z-games, featuring all the surviving Banpresto originals working together to finally defeat the Taichi.


== SRW and [[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha|Nanoha]] will eventually cross over with each other. ==
== SRW and [[Lyrical Nanoha|Nanoha]] will eventually cross over with each other. ==
Most likely in the [[Endless Frontier]] series, since there aren't any [[Humongous Mecha]] in Nanoha (yet...). Seven Arcs have shown themselves to be ''huge'' SRW fans with the endless [[Shout-Out|Shout Outs]] they keep putting in their works, and Banpresto seems to find this amusing enough to Shout Back at them with stuff like Setsuko's <s> Glory Star</s> Starlight Breaker attack. In [[Comartemis|this troper's]] experience, the two franchises have large overlap in their fanbases and one of the two companies involved has a long track record of catering to its' fanbase. All Banpresto has to do is make the offer...
Most likely in the [[Endless Frontier]] series, since there aren't any [[Humongous Mecha]] in Nanoha (yet...). Seven Arcs have shown themselves to be ''huge'' SRW fans with the endless [[Shout-Out|Shout Outs]] they keep putting in their works, and Banpresto seems to find this amusing enough to Shout Back at them with stuff like Setsuko's <s> Glory Star</s> Starlight Breaker attack. In [[Comartemis|this troper's]] experience, the two franchises have large overlap in their fanbases and one of the two companies involved has a long track record of catering to its' fanbase. All Banpresto has to do is make the offer...


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== Gilliam Yeager will appear in Z2 ==
== Gilliam Yeager will appear in Z2 ==
Gilliam is a dimension traveller, and dimensional travel forms part of Z's plot. Gilliam was originally a member of an organisation called ZEUS, of which ZEUTH is just an [[Engrish]] version. Added to that, his namesake Chuck Yeager was central to the book ''[[wikipedia:The Right Stuff %28book%29|The Right Stuff]]'', which Z gives a [[Shout-Out]] to as the name of the Glory Star squad's theme music.
Gilliam is a dimension traveller, and dimensional travel forms part of Z's plot. Gilliam was originally a member of an organisation called ZEUS, of which ZEUTH is just an [[Engrish]] version. Added to that, his namesake Chuck Yeager was central to the book ''[[wikipedia:The Right Stuff (book)|The Right Stuff]]'', which Z gives a [[Shout-Out]] to as the name of the Glory Star squad's theme music.
* Alternately, Cobray Gordon could show up. Or both, both would be cool.
* Alternately, Cobray Gordon could show up. Or both, both would be cool.
** [[Jossed]] on both accounts.
** [[Jossed]] on both accounts.