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*** But he was the only one who didn't play by the same rules as everyone else. (At least before Crazy and the Subspace boss types.) Everyone else was affected by gravity and was defeated by falling off the stage or into the distance. He floated at will and had limited health. This was ''odd''.
*** But he was the only one who didn't play by the same rules as everyone else. (At least before Crazy and the Subspace boss types.) Everyone else was affected by gravity and was defeated by falling off the stage or into the distance. He floated at will and had limited health. This was ''odd''.
*** He made up the rules, so why should he follow them.
*** He made up the rules, so why should he follow them.
**** [[Screw the Rules I Make Them|Indeed.]]
**** [[Screw the Rules, I Make Them|Indeed.]]
** My current theory is that MH and CH = [[Rayman]].
** My current theory is that MH and CH = [[Rayman]].
*** Mine is that they're the hands of [[Losing Your Head|Dr. Kawashima]].
*** Mine is that they're the hands of [[Losing Your Head|Dr. Kawashima]].
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* On that note, why doesn't Ganondorf use his sword? Y'know, the one that he pulls out in his taunt? Yeah. THAT one. Yeah, it makes for a decent joke on the dojo, but Sakurai, I would have much preferred it if you just let him use the freaking sword!
* On that note, why doesn't Ganondorf use his sword? Y'know, the one that he pulls out in his taunt? Yeah. THAT one. Yeah, it makes for a decent joke on the dojo, but Sakurai, I would have much preferred it if you just let him use the freaking sword!
** Maybe it was a tier thing. They already have three sword users, one of which (Ike) is rather slow and heavy, so Ganondorf would be, as some say, "an Ike spoof" or vice-versa. Then again, it might simply be for consistency matters: he didn't use it on Melee either... And yes, I'd like to see Ganondorf using a sword. And actually ''turning into'' Ganon as Final Smash, by the way.
** Maybe it was a tier thing. They already have three sword users, one of which (Ike) is rather slow and heavy, so Ganondorf would be, as some say, "an Ike spoof" or vice-versa. Then again, it might simply be for consistency matters: he didn't use it on Melee either... And yes, I'd like to see Ganondorf using a sword. And actually ''turning into'' Ganon as Final Smash, by the way.
*** Er, what? He does turn into Ganon. For a [[One Hit Kill]], I might add.
*** Er, what? He does turn into Ganon. For a [[One-Hit Kill]], I might add.
*** If he hits you. Anybody <s>with decent jumping skills</s> 'cept Bowser and Ganondorf can dodge it. There's a reason that he's currently bottom tier.
*** If he hits you. Anybody <s>with decent jumping skills</s> 'cept Bowser and Ganondorf can dodge it. There's a reason that he's currently bottom tier.
*** Except that Final Smashes play no part in the tier list due to being available from items.
*** Except that Final Smashes play no part in the tier list due to being available from items.
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*** He was the leader of a group of soldiers bent on destroying Dream Land with a giant ship that doubled as a massive weapon. How is that not more evil than Dedede who just stole Dream Land's entire food supply at worst?
*** He was the leader of a group of soldiers bent on destroying Dream Land with a giant ship that doubled as a massive weapon. How is that not more evil than Dedede who just stole Dream Land's entire food supply at worst?
*** That's the [[American Kirby Is Hardcore|American version]] of "Revenge of Meta Knight". The Japanese version has Meta Knight wanting to end Pop Star's lazy ways and get everyone motivated to do stuff. Kirby does not agree with not being lazy and fights him.
*** That's the [[American Kirby Is Hardcore|American version]] of "Revenge of Meta Knight". The Japanese version has Meta Knight wanting to end Pop Star's lazy ways and get everyone motivated to do stuff. Kirby does not agree with not being lazy and fights him.
**** That's not even the American version. The American version has him wanting to end laziness. The Japanese version mentions something about cleansing Dream Land's "corruption". It's never made clear on exactly what he means by that, but he's unquestionably good in ''[[Kirby and The Amazing Mirror|Amazing Mirror]]'' and ''Squeak Squad'', and is implied to be a [[Stealth Mentor]] to Kirby in ''[[Kirbys Adventure|Adventure]]'', so it's likely that he had some [[Well Intentioned Extremist]] ideas in mind. The worst you can accuse him of is being an [[Anti Hero]] [[Hero Antagonist|Antagonist]], albeit one with very poor communication skills, [[Blood Knight]] tendencies, and an inability to tolerate Kirby's methods.
**** That's not even the American version. The American version has him wanting to end laziness. The Japanese version mentions something about cleansing Dream Land's "corruption". It's never made clear on exactly what he means by that, but he's unquestionably good in ''[[Kirby and The Amazing Mirror|Amazing Mirror]]'' and ''Squeak Squad'', and is implied to be a [[Stealth Mentor]] to Kirby in ''[[Kirbys Adventure|Adventure]]'', so it's likely that he had some [[Well-Intentioned Extremist]] ideas in mind. The worst you can accuse him of is being an [[Anti-Hero]] [[Hero Antagonist|Antagonist]], albeit one with very poor communication skills, [[Blood Knight]] tendencies, and an inability to tolerate Kirby's methods.
*** Wait, so, in order to be lazy, ''Kirby takes out an army''?
*** Wait, so, in order to be lazy, ''Kirby takes out an army''?
*** [[Its the Principle of The Thing]]!
*** [[Its the Principle of The Thing]]!
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** He wasn't so much augmented as destroyed and rebuilt.
** He wasn't so much augmented as destroyed and rebuilt.
* In The Subspace Emissary, something about two particular levels bugs me: The opening Mario VS Kirby fight, and the Meta Knight VS Lucario battle later on. You can play as either character and fight the other, which is a good idea and all, but here's what bugs me: if you lose, you get a Game Over, when really, shouldn't it have instead triggered the cutscene for the other character winning and just continue? Plot-wise it makes no sense, and when playing on Intense Difficulty it'd be a nice relief in case you lose.
* In The Subspace Emissary, something about two particular levels bugs me: The opening Mario VS Kirby fight, and the Meta Knight VS Lucario battle later on. You can play as either character and fight the other, which is a good idea and all, but here's what bugs me: if you lose, you get a Game Over, when really, shouldn't it have instead triggered the cutscene for the other character winning and just continue? Plot-wise it makes no sense, and when playing on Intense Difficulty it'd be a nice relief in case you lose.
** [[Its Up to You]] in full effect. Yeah, I agree this one wasn't thought too far.
** [[It's Up to You]] in full effect. Yeah, I agree this one wasn't thought too far.
*** In addition to the above, it's probably also so the player doesn't get lazy and... well... stop fighting.
*** In addition to the above, it's probably also so the player doesn't get lazy and... well... stop fighting.
* What's with Zelda's victory animation? She looks so moody or depressed. Is she supposed to be lost in thought or something? Unlike the Sheik pose, it doesn't come off as so.
* What's with Zelda's victory animation? She looks so moody or depressed. Is she supposed to be lost in thought or something? Unlike the Sheik pose, it doesn't come off as so.
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* This troper wonders what Link and Zelda were thinking when they [[Enemy Mine|revived Ganondorf]]. They're obviously hesitant about it, but do they really need the power of the unified Triforce so much that they revive the guy who has followed them across history, [[The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword|"dooming them to wander a blood-soaked sea of darkness for all time"]]? I mean, the guy has a history of backstabbing his "allies", and the moment they turn their backs he clenches his fist and covers it in purple energy before dispersing it and following them up the stairs.
* This troper wonders what Link and Zelda were thinking when they [[Enemy Mine|revived Ganondorf]]. They're obviously hesitant about it, but do they really need the power of the unified Triforce so much that they revive the guy who has followed them across history, [[The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword|"dooming them to wander a blood-soaked sea of darkness for all time"]]? I mean, the guy has a history of backstabbing his "allies", and the moment they turn their backs he clenches his fist and covers it in purple energy before dispersing it and following them up the stairs.
** They were about to fight an entity that OHKO'ed all of the heroes in one fell swoop before, and who Ganondorf clearly antagonizes (at the moment they find him), seeing how he's trophyfied. An entity who completely overpowered the Master Hand, which seems to be the closest thing to a god in the Smash Bros. canon (even if a malevolent one). Yes, they needed all help they could find, that was an [[Enemy Mine]] situation if there ever was any.
** They were about to fight an entity that OHKO'ed all of the heroes in one fell swoop before, and who Ganondorf clearly antagonizes (at the moment they find him), seeing how he's trophyfied. An entity who completely overpowered the Master Hand, which seems to be the closest thing to a god in the Smash Bros. canon (even if a malevolent one). Yes, they needed all help they could find, that was an [[Enemy Mine]] situation if there ever was any.
*** Plus, the [[Power Creep Power Seep]] of the [[Super Smash Bros]] universe means that all it takes for Link to defeat him is a quick battle as opposed to a quest though the dungeons of Hyrule.
*** Plus, the [[Power Creep, Power Seep]] of the [[Super Smash Bros]] universe means that all it takes for Link to defeat him is a quick battle as opposed to a quest though the dungeons of Hyrule.
* This is a very minor pet-peeve but why isn't there a badge on Pikachu's hat? The one that's based off Red's hat.
* This is a very minor pet-peeve but why isn't there a badge on Pikachu's hat? The one that's based off Red's hat.
** Based on Red's, not actually Red's.
** Based on Red's, not actually Red's.
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