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Probably a Jerkass anti-hero. It's unlikely he got to be member of the board thanks to daddy's influence: after all, Ed senior's name should be pretty much mud considering his theft of Flynn's games. Junior probably clawed his way to the top, and it's more likely he despises his father for being a talentless thief.

** Possibly subverted by hidden bonus content in "The Next Day". It' revealed that he's somehow in contact with the Master Control Program... although he seems to think it's his father.

*** My theory is that it is his father. Ed Sr. has discovered the grid, and is now the new Master Control Program.

* Considering that he never derezed and that he lit back up with "good" colors after hitting the water, I see no reason to think that he's dead in the first place.

** If we consider how the grid works in ''TRON 2.0'', what seems water in the grid is actually a pool of concentrated '''regenerating energy'''

** I have the feeling that helmet is also a life-support system ''à la'' Darth Vader (who Tron appears to be an expy of: see [[Vader Breath]], [[The Faceless]], [[More Than Mind Control]]...); thus he shouldn't have any problems breathing "underwater".

* Of course he is alive. He has [[Plot Armor]]; the ''series is named after him!''

Kevin Flynn is the white-bearded god, Clu is Lucifer, Sam is Jesus, and Quorra is us, waiting to be saved.

 

Audiences could just see Castor screaming "Fly away, little moth, fly!" and "Smile! Smile, Quorra!" as he was dancing during the club fight scene.

 

== Castor/Zuse is [[Soul Eater|Excalibur]]. ==

== If a sequel gets the greenlight, Quorra will become similar to [[Gurren Lagann|Nia]] ==

Think about it. Even though she's an intelligent [[Action Girl]] of ''Legacy'', she still has a naive, child-like personality, especially when it comes to topics surrounding the real world. So when Quorra starts living with Sam, she would find adapting to the real world to be difficult. [[Cloudcuckoolander|She would also probably lack knowledge of regular customs and surprise others in the real world with quirky misunderstandings.]] Doesn't stop Sam from loving her though, hence why he will probably propose to her sometime during the sequel.

I want to see her whispering to laptops and hugging toasters.... There's a whole other chapter ahead. }}

* Bonus points if Dillenger Jr. corrupts Quorra's ISO nature, resulting in a [[Face Heel Turn]] against her will, [[Yank the Dog's Chain|just after the engagement.]]

 

== Beck, the protagonist of the upcoming spinoff animated series, is an ISO. ==

 

== The coup wasn't entirely a surprise to Kevin Flynn ==

*** Activated the digitizing laser

** It's possible he just made sure all his affairs were in order every time he went into the Grid in case he were to die in a freak Lightcycle accident or something.

 

== Even if Clu had gotten out, his army would not be able to do much and would be beaten back before even taking the city. ==

** The MCP's plan was to 'hit the Pentagon' a week from that time.

*** Of course, the MCP was contemporary to the Pentagon's systems back then. Clu is actually contemporary to computer systems from around the late 80's or early 90's. Especially consider that military programs would be no strangers to the Internet and experienced in cyber warfare, Clu would likely get his ass kicked so hard it would ''implode'' before derezzing.

*** Also, think about these two factors: 1)time moves faster in the Grid/the virtual world, and 2)any program's first language IS computer language. We, as humans, do not have an instinctive grasp of computer language, nor do we have contact with computer programs as direct and fast as the programs themselves. If Clu or one of his cronies got into a computer system, they'd understand it better than any human ever could(unless that human, like Flynn, had actually been inside a system), and they'd have fifty times the time of a human to put changes into it. To use an analogy, for us, talking to a computer program is like an English speaker with a dictionary texting a Japanese speaker letter by letter: to the program, it's slow and cumbersome. Meanwhile, Clu and his cronies could go in and talk to them in their native language or repurpose them faster than any human ever could. Plus, how easy is it for YOU to detect a computer virus? Not very, that's why we have anti-virus programs, right? Well, anti-virus programs don't work unless they're coded to detect specific viruses, they can't detect anything they're not familiar with. Hell, Clu could probably repurpose an anti-virus program into a mega-virus capable of doing the damage of all the viruses it was programmed to eradicate. Any security programmed could easily be turned into the electronic equivalent of a nuke by Clu.

 

 

== Alternately, we're dealing with [[Kingdom Hearts|a Nobody and a Heartless]]. ==

 

== Humans and programs can't actually merge. ==

Because you don't just get Cillian Murphy to play the son of the original film's villain and only have him for ONE SCENE! It's gotta be setup. Dillinger Jr and his program vs Sam, Quorra, [[He's Just Hiding|Tron]] and maybe Flynn or another program based on Flynn.

* Obviously, Dillinger Jr is going to try and sabotage Sam's efforts and take the company himself due to the blood feud started when his own father was overthrown by Kevin. Bonus points if he's being "encouraged" by Dillinger Sr.

*** Holy crap, does this theory ever rule.

 

== Kevin Flynn isn't dead. ==

It could be that CLU has all of Flynn's memories up until the point of his creation. As Flynn said in the beginning of the film, he's basically a copy of Flynn created to look after the Grid while he's away and do everything he would have done if he'd been there. This is why he's so keen to murder Sam instead of using him as, say, a hostage, or putting a tracking device on him and letting him "escape" - he does in fact feel some sort of love for Sam and doesn't like it, so he decides to kill him in the games and get all those messy feelings out of the way.

* He may have all of Flynn's memories, but it's unlikely that he just wants to kill Sam to get those messy feelings out of the way. He didn't even know Sam had entered the Grid until he showed up in the disc battle arena. The light cycle game was just a public announcement to bait whatever of Flynn's agents are witness (in this case, Quorra) that Sam's on the grid now ("It wasn't meant for them"). It's a [[Batman Gambit]] to get Sam and Flynn together to goad Flynn back onto the grid so he can get a chance to snatch Flynn's identity disk.

 

== Clu's plan for world domination is just a distraction ==

* There's a news article out there that explains the name (I think it may be on io9, but I can't remember). Basically, the writers were looking for an alias that didn't sound anything like Tron. After thinking about it for awhile, one of the writers saw the name Rinzler on a "Making of Star Wars" book on his coffee table (Rinzler was the author's last name I believe) and it stuck.

** [http://www.amazon.com/Making-Star-Wars-Definitive-Original/dp/0345494768 Correct].

 

== Kevin's disc was necessary to use the Portal because he had Root privileges. ==

 

== Sending the carrier through the Portal would have resulted in disaster, assuming it was able to go through at all. ==

== Rinzler's real identity ==

 

 

''Think about it.''

A LOT more time passes on the grid than outside, right? Flynn should have died of old age long before Sam arrived. The solution? Shutting down the system puts the grid and everyone in it into suspended animation. Sam turns the computer back on and the grid resumes as if nothing happened.

* The impression I got was that Flynn aged in real time.

Kevin: *chuckles* You have no idea... }}

* This one is disproved by the run-time clock on the terminal screen, it's display reading 20 years, 11 months, 20 days, 16 hours, 22 minutes, 16 seconds, and 34 hundredths of a second right as Sam wipes the dust off (thanks [[YouTube]]!).

Another related possibility is that they are shown that way for sake of the audience. It's similar to movies with talking animals. We're not supposed to imagine that animals really are sentient with the full implications of that--it's not slavery to keep chickens or murder to swat bugs, even in ''A Bug's Life''. It's just a way of letting us relate to the characters. Likewise, these are just computer programs.

 

 

== The Programs are [[Our Homunculi Are Different|Homunculi]], created by digital means, and powered by a spark from their User's soul. ==

 

 

 

** Which all makes the thinly-veiled [[Take That]] at Microsoft in the film deliciously ironic.

* Not to mention, Clu flashes back/freaks out while gazing into a glass apple...

 

== Zuse and Gem escaped the End of Line club before it exploded. ==

== Alan knew the whole time exactly where Kevin Flynn was. ==

But he didn't know how to ''get'' there. It's possible that after his disappearance the publicly-knows digitizing laser lab was shut down and its equipment scrapped or re-purposed. Alan didn't know about Kevin's secret lab but knew of his work on The Grid and probably learned of Kevin's original adventures in the Encom 1 Grid after he returned. He may have even helped re-write Tron to help Kevin and be his own avatar on the Grid the same was Clu was Kevin's. As to why he sent Sam to the arcade rather than going himself it's because he's simply too old. When he got the page from the arcade he figured out that Kevin must have had a secret lab hidden away and was trapped on the Grid calling for help. He sent Sam because he had a better chance of not only understanding the equipment, but also getting his father out.

 

 

 

Mostly going here because the idea of a Sam-Jet-Quorra [[Power Trio]] is just too good not to imagine. However...

Think on it: If F-Con did their homework, they might have figured Flynn was onto something after ''Digital Frontier'' was published. Even better, [[Word of God]] from Monolith states that F-Con's CEO is Dillinger Sr., who already knew about Master Control's sentience and plans. The ''Ghost In The Machine'' comic (''written in 2003'') also says Flynn mysteriously vanished after a few years back in the analog world. In the game itself, Tron's gone [[Chekhov MIA]] -- retiring after Master Control's defeat with no one in ''any'' system knowing where he vanished to. Better, Alan's slated upgrade to his program was suspended in 1984, ''on Flynn's orders.'' In the game, it's never stated why, but if you go with the ''Legacy'' canon, it would have been right about the point where the Grid was being constructed.

 

 

 

 

 

* Sam was joking. He sees a guy that looks just like the toy he had as a child, and jokes that he has a three-inch version of him on his shelf. He wasn't meaning an exact copy.

 

 

* Walter Gibbs was a Son of Ether, the tradition of [[Mad Science]]. He founded the company as a front to find and Awaken others with the game gifts. Inventing the laser was just another experiment to that end. He was just on the verge of awakening Lora by trying to get her to question reality. ("Here goes something, here comes nothing.") Unfortunately, he was so busy with that aspect of his mission that he let Ed Dillinger, an agent of the Technocracy, infiltrate and try to shut down his experiments. The Technocracy often uses the same magic they're ostensibly trying to stop, hence why Dillinger's avatars in [[Cyberspace]] were trying to get the Programs to not believe in their creators. Flynn had the potential to be the most powerful Virtual Adept in existence if he were allowed to awaken. Hence why Dillinger had to resort to stealing Flynn's work, getting him fired, and then having the MCP attempt killing him. He just hadn't counted on two things - Alan Bradley being an awakening Virtual Adept in his own right (both his security Program and the [[Holy Hand Grenade]] of a [[Deadly Disc]] he uploaded), and that the trip into [[Cyberspace]] backfired ''spectacularly.'' Gibbs was finally able to step away and entrust the ''real'' mission of Encom with what was now the most powerful Virtual Adept ever.

 

 

 

== Clu isn't the one who sent the message... ==

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