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'''Picard:''' "Doctor..." <br />

'''Wesley Crusher:''' "And since I ''am'' finished here, sir, may I point out that—" <br />

[[The Scrappy]] and [[Scrappy Index|his ilk]] are characters who are despised by most (if not all) of the fandom. However, occasionally there may be one moment where the despised character is the butt of a humiliating joke, or another character says what the audience is thinking to/about the despised character.

== [[Anime]] & [[Manga]] ==

** {{spoiler|Makoto's death at the hands of Sekai}}.

** Makoto getting [[Groin Attack|kneed]] [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|by Sekai.]]

* ''[[Sonic X]]'' had [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|quite a good one]] when Dr. Eggman gives Chris a [["The Reason You Suck" Speech|verbal smackdown]] on how he's acting like a whiny brat because if Sonic goes away he'll be back to being normal.<br /><br />Some fans find an earlier scene in which Chris is thrown about by [[Anti-Hero|Shadow]] a lot less entertaining than Eggman's quite understandable verbal smackdown. This seems to be due to the fact that, like Chris or loathe him, Shadow is essentially ''[[Moral Event Horizon|beating up a twelve year old child]]''.

* Naru Narusegawa from ''[[Love Hina]]'' is a [[Tsundere]] towards Keitarou, and more than once reaches [[Domestic Abuser]] ''and'' [[Jerkass]] levels (and especially [[Character Exaggeration|in the anime]], where she reaches borderline [[Jerk Sue]] status). Well, at some point {{spoiler|Keitarou's [[Yandere]] adopted sister Kanako}} gets fed up and ''[[Punched Across the Room|punches]]'' [[Punched Across the Room|Naru across a hot spring]] because of that... and a good part of the fandom ''cheers''. That's more of an [[Americans Hate Tingle]] case though, since Naru is first in popularity polls in Japan.

* Quattro, the [[Smug Snake]] from ''[[Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha]] StrikerS'' that viewers love to hate. While [[There Is No Kill Like Overkill|her defeat by overkill]] from Nanoha may or may not be this, this scene from ''[[Audio Adaptation|StrikerS Sound Stage X]]'' was clearly added just so that fans could point and laugh at how much she had fallen by now.

{{quote| '''Jail:''' I've been keeping myself healthy. This transparent prison is unexpectedly comfortable. <br />

* [[Justice League of America/Characters|Vibe and Steel]] from the reviled ''[[Justice League of America|Justice League Detroit]]'' were killed off several years after they were created due to negative fan reaction. Decades after their deaths, the characters are almost never mentioned in-universe unless in a negative manner.

** This itself got lampshaded when [[Blackest Night|Black Lantern]] versions confronted the surviving Detroit Leaguers and basically asked why they were remembered as a joke while Gypsy and Vixen got to join the "proper" League.

** A trio of them later got killed in humiliating fashion by Prometheus, who was himself in the process of being [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap]].

* Jason Todd's no holds bar smackdown on Damian Wayne in Batman and Robin #6, which ended with Damian getting a broken back for his trouble.

* It's not hard to find a fanfic of any fandom in which a despised character is mercilessly bashed by its author.

** If anything, fanfiction revolves around this and [[Die for Our Ship]].

== [[Film]] ==

** Writer/director Paul W.S. Anderson may have even slipped in a stealth admission of his own writing screwup with Alice, in the form of what Wesker says to her while he [[No-Holds-Barred Beatdown|kicks her ass.]] "I'm what [[God Mode Sue|you]] used to be, [[Badass|only better]]."

{{quote| [[Mystery Science Theater 3000|Tom Servo]]: The Aztec speaks for all of us!}}

* ''[[Saw]]'' - A lot of people did not like Detective Hoffman [[Replacement Scrappy|replacing Jigsaw]] late in the series, so {{spoiler|having him chained to a wall with no means of escape by Dr. Gordon made it oh so sweet for some of the fans}}.

** Not really. They each get a [[Dying Moment of Awesome]]. Skids & Mudflap go out in style against {{spoiler|Sentinel Prime}} in the novelization, the former [[Taking the Bullet|giving his life]] to save Bumblebee and the latter charging the villain in a rage and trying to beat him to death, giving the others time to escape, and continuing to attack the Big Bad Bot even as he's literally ''disintegrating.''

== [[Literature]] ==

* In the ''[[Star Wars Expanded Universe]]'', both Mara and Corran go into rants about [[Jedi Academy Trilogy|Kyp Durron]] and how he [[Karma Houdini|literally got away with planetcide]]. ...Actually, the whole of the EU to feature him after that trilogy counts. He can [[Never Live It Down]].

* [[A Song of Ice and Fire]] loves creating unlikable characters and then invoking this trope. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxLOXUGmRKI Joffrey getting slapped by Tyrion several times when he goes to backtalk], Viserys humiliation and abuse, etc.

* The [[Erin Hunter|author]] of ''[[Warrior Cats]]'' [[Word of God|confirmed]] that she killed off {{spoiler|Ferncloud}} in ''The Last Hope'' because of said character being unpopular among the fanbase.

== [[Live Action TV]] ==

** In ''The Thaw'', the crew are having a debate about the nature of fear. Neelix suggests telling a joke might help, because laughter overcomes fear. The rest of the crew just stare at him with a collective look of irritated disgust and he just sputters out in mid-sentence when he realises how badly his idea is going down.

** In ''Meld'', Tuvok fears he is losing his self-control after a mind-meld with a psychopath. He decides to test the limits of his self-control by exposing himself to the circumstances that he thinks are most likely to make him snap by simulating them on the holodeck. His choice? Having to share a room with Neelix at his most obnoxious. Needless to say, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWlv_02fRyY he discovers what his limit is].

* ''[[Law and Order SVU]]'' had almost nothing ''but'' these for Dale Stuckey during his run.

** Perhaps the ultimate example of this towards him was in "Zebras" where he (having already screwed up an open-and-shut case) made a comment that provoked Stabler into angrily shoving him. When he complained about it, Cragen simply blew him off.

** There's also the season 1 episode where Cameron forces House to go on a date with her. During the date, House goes on a rant about how she has a complex requiring her to fall in love with "broken" guys (her ex-husband, who was dying when they got married, and House himself) and try to fix them. It's heavily implied she cried herself to sleep that night.

** Robin decides to work with Isabella, resulting in a snide: "She always gets what she wants" remark from [[Clingy Jealous Girl]] Kate. Robin irritably snaps: "Just leave it Kate!" Unfortunately, like the Wesley example above, Kate is eventually proved irrefutably right in her insistence that Isabella can't be trusted, and gets to say "Maybe next time you'll listen to me" and "I told you so," as well as receive an influx of [[Creator's Pet]]-shilling when Little John calls her "a treasure" and Robin tells her that she's "brave, compassionate and beautiful" before making out with her. This is ''after'' Kate [[Designated Hero|demands that Isabella be left to get raped and strangled at the hands of her abusive husband.]] Still, Robin's "shut up" was nice while it lasted...<br /><br />Several episodes later though, when Isabella's brother Guy joins the team, he calmly informs Kate: "You don't have to like me. ''I'' don't like ''you.''"

** In the [[Grand Finale]] of the show, Robin discovers {{spoiler|that he's been fatally poisoned}}. Kate attempts to give him a [[Last Kiss]], but he deliberately turns his face away, and a few moments later {{spoiler|is [[Together in Death|reunited with Marian]]}}. Kate has to settle for a one-armed hug, and when Robin leaves to {{spoiler|[[Dying Alone|die alone]]}}, he ''doesn't even look back''.

** Earlier, in season 3:

{{quote| '''Hurley:''' Dude, Nikki's dead.<br />

'''Fonzie:''' (''to Potsie'') Shut up, nerd! }}

* ''[[Power Rangers RPM]]'': When exploring ruins, [[The Dragon|Tenaya7]] finds a battered ''[[Power Rangers Operation Overdrive|Operation Overdrive]]'' Red Ranger helmet and, without too much thought, tosses it aside. Now, this can be seen as a [[Continuity Nod]], showing what happened to other Rangers who tried to stop [[Big Bad|Venjix]]. But you gotta wonder if this was deliberate: out of all the 15 previous ''[[Power Rangers]]'' teams available, the one they explicitly showed to have died was the one from the most reviled season of the franchise.

* In [[Smallville]] fandom, Lana Lang is almost universally loathed. Her constant hypocrisy, passive-aggressive behavior, and manipulation of both Clark, and her own best friend Chloe, caused most viewers to despise the character, to the point where whenever Lana would bumble her way into a dangerous situation with the [[Monster of the Week]] (an almost weekly occurrence), many fans seemed to view it as this trope. But perhaps the biggest [[Take That Scrappy]] was the scene where Lionel Luthor, [[It Makes Sense in Context|while trapped in Clark's body]], notices Lana approaching, and rolls his eyes, growling "''This'' one." Doubles as a [[Crowning Moment of Funny]]. Mind you, Lionel was still the [[Big Bad]] at that point, so presumably the showrunners were hoping that fans would view Lionel as being obviously wrong, and sympathize with Lana instead. It didn't work.

== [[Tabletop Games]] ==

{{quote| ''The specimen [[Stealth Pun|seems to be broken.]]''}}

** To a lesser extent, Magic R&Ds primary strategy for weakening dominant strategies, rather than banning cards which people put effort into acquiring, is to print cards in the next set that are very niche in their practicality, but usually devastating against the top deck. For example:

*** When Ravager Affinity, a powerful artifact strategy, was the king of the hill, they printed [http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=46012 Oxidize], one of the cheapest artifact destruction spells every printed. (It wasn't enough, but it's the thought that counts.)

*** When Faeries was the best deck, Conflux released a lot of [http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=185828 cheaply-costed] or [http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=220512 hard to counter] spells that wreaked havoc on hordes of small, flying creatures.

* In the [[Old World of Darkness]], the eventual fate of the much-hated ghoul-werewolf-mage [[God Mode Sue|God Mode Stu]] Samuel Haight was...to have his spirit crafted into an ashtray.

* An odd case: [[Our Dwarves Are All the Same|the Squats]] were retconned out of existence in the third edition of [[Warhammer 40000|Warhammer 40,000]], and the creators got so fed up with fans asking about their return that ''they'' began to consider the Squats as the in-universe Scrappies. The official explanation now is that all of the Squat homeworlds were eaten by [[Horde of Alien Locusts|Tyranids]]. Occasionally one or two survivors turn up in the fiction, usually played for laughs.

** In ''Bounty Hunter'' he's a holographic target on the firing range in the first level.

* ''[[Sonic the Hedgehog]]''

* The entire character of Ivan Raidenovitch Raikov in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 3 Snake Eater]]'' is this: He looks exactly like Raiden, the last game's widely-hated protagonist, and appears in the game as the sadomasochistic colonel Volgin's homosexual love interest (even his name is a [[Bilingual Bonus|Japanese double entendre]]: 'Raidenovitch' can be read in Japanese as 'Raiden no bitch', which itself translates to 'Thunderbolt's bitch', hinting at his and Volgin's relationship).

** Well, technically, he was only hated by American fans. Apparently in Japan, Raiden's fanbase potentially rivals that of even Solid Snake. Also, apparently, the player is also given the option to either kill or knock out Raikov, depending on what the player feels like, and the player doesn't even get a [[Time Paradox]] if he does the former.

** The Secret Theatre FMVs also poke fun of Raiden: One FMV involves Raiden and Snake fighting over who gets to be the protagonist in ''[[Metal Gear Solid 4 Guns of the Patriots]]'', with Snake winning in the end. In another FMV, Raiden goes back in time to eliminate Big Boss during Operation Snake Eater so he can be the main character, but can't bring himself to it when he finally meets the man face-to-face. However, as Rose consoles him, there's always going to be a [[Metal Gear Solid Rising|fifth MGS game]]...

* Eric Sparrow, the antagonist of ''[[Tony Hawk Pro Skater|Tony Hawk's Underground]]'' and something of a memetic [[Jerkass]], spent the entirety of ''THUG 2'' pissing himself, squealing like a girl and getting the crap beat out of him.

** This was completely intentional from the very beginning - The Soda Poppers are hated both in- and out-of-universe. Only two characters like or care about them in any capacity aside from how they can be exploited to further Sam & Max's goals, and one of them is Max (who you may recognize as someone who regularly exploits the Soda Poppers to further Sam & Max's goals).

** There's also Khalisah al-Jilani, the reporter, who tries to make Shepard look bad in pursuit of ratings. In ''[[Mass Effect 1]]'', you can crack her jaw. In ''[[Mass Effect 2]]'' Shepard can crack her jaw again, or s/he can give her an [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|an equally awesome]] [["The Reason You Suck" Speech|verbal beatdown]]. [[DLC|Lair of the Shadow Broker]] also includes videos of her getting punched out by a krogan... and kicked in the shin by a volus<ref>an entire species of [[Chew Toy|Chew Toys]]</ref>. If you try to punch her again in the third game, she's finally wised up enough to dodge...but then ''another'' interrupt appears that lets you ''headbutt her''.

** In a case of the scrappy being a vehicle / game mechanic rather than a person, James and Steve can be heard bickering over the flaws / merits of the Mako and Hammerhead. Steve thinks the Mako handles like a drunk rhino, James thinks the Hammerhead's made of tissue paper.

** A...[[Incredibly Lame Pun|scrappy meal?]]

* The PSP remake of ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics]]'' features a new battle which brings its resident Scrappy [[Rich Bitch|Argath]] [[Back From the Dead]] just so you get the pleasure of killing him again.

* A recently introduced quest chain in ''[[World of Warcraft]]'' has the player delving into Thrall's inner emotional struggles in an effort to bring him back after he's killed by the Twilight Hammer. When the player gets to his inner rage, there are hints that he's... less than pleased with [[Replacement Scrappy|Garrosh's]] run as Warchief. For those who see Varian Wrynn as [[The Scrappy]], Thrall ain't happy with him either.

* Anders and Carver of ''[[Dragon Age 2]]'' were both [[Base Breaker|divisive characters]] among the fandom. Of party banter of the game's DLC made the two the butt of many jokes from other characters.

{{quote| I am a tactless minstrel,<br />

I sing off-key for coins,<br />

** Not to mention that, to get the costumes in the first place you get to beat eight of them up. The fact that they go down in one punch each is just icing.

{{quote| '''Ezio''': Minstels from Italia? I'm going to enjoy this.}}

* ''[[Animal Crossing]]: Wild World'' introduced Lyle, an insurance scammer who would appear outside of the player's house on Saturdays. If talked to, he would force the player to pay him to buy insurance from him. If the player ignored him, he would try to follow them around until they talked to him and bought insurance. This combined with his [[Honest John's Dealership|annoying personality]], the fact that he would continue to harass the player even if they gave in and bought insurance from him, and that his insurance was generally worthless (he would occasionally "cover" players who were stung by bees or sold forged paintings, but only in pitiful amounts that generally did not come close to what the player paid for his insurance in the first place) made many players despise him. Possibly due to this, in ''[[Animal Crossing]]: City Folk'', Lyle has lost his job as an insurance salesman and now works at the Happy Room Academy, a job he absolutely hates, and frequently talks about how his dreams have been crushed.

== [[Web Comics]] ==

** In the "The Best Place for Cartoons" promo, Scrappy was ranting on how the [[Cartoon Cartoons]] characters are more popular than him, despite his being there longer than them. (Ironically, [[YouTube]] posts of this clip have comments from people saying they agree with what Scrappy is saying.)

** There was also a game on Cartoon Network's site at one point where the point was to throw tomatoes at Scrappy. The very first game on the site, no less.

** Even Warner Home Video is in on the act, [[Orwellian Editor|starting with minimizing Scrappy's presence in clips in the trailer]] for ''The Richie Rich/Scooby-Doo Show'' and not mentioning him at all on the descriptions for the DVDs of the late-'80s Scooby movies. Seeing as only Scooby and Shaggy appear on the cover of the ''13 Ghosts of Scooby-Doo'' set, one can imagine that this trend is going to continue. This is presumably due to the fact that [[Warner Bros]] is aware of the backlash Scrappy-Doo had received.

** In ''Scooby Doo and the Goblin King'' the living Mystery Machine runs down a stand with Scrappy dolls as prizes.

*** A later [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ovO7lmFYCc sketch] involving Jar Jar strongly indicates that his status may [[Batman Gambit|not have been]] [[Bigger Bad|unjustified.]]

* ''[[The Venture Brothers]]'' has the Murderous Moppets, two creepy and unpleasant dwarf henchmen that The Monarch inherited through marriage, to his (and the fans') displeasure. When Mrs. The Monarch orders the Moppets to distract him, they try to get in his face, only for the Monarch to coldly and plainly tell them that he doesn't like them and that if they ever try to give him an order he will kill them and feed them to the neighborhood dogs.<br /><br />In the final episode of Season Four, Dr. Girlfriend finally tells them off and admits that they're starting to creep even her out. The Monarch's reaction is similar to that of the fanbase's.

** It should be mentioned that the fact that it was Quagmire speaking, combined with how cemented Brian's status as a [[Gary Stu]] [[Author Avatar]] had become, led some viewers to [[Alternate Character Interpretation|see the rant as]] one big, long [[Take That, Critics!]] with Quagmire as a [[Straw Critic]].

*** The secondary mouthpiece, Stewie, has barely two appearances on the episode mostly to say that Brian shouldn't obsess over being liked by everybody as long as he likes himself, and that he (Stewie) likes him no matter what.

*** Which is sad, considering that for once [[Unfortunate Implications|he may have a point]].

** In a case of [[Hilarious in Hindsight|retroactive]] [[Take That Scrappy]], frustrated ''Family Guy'' fans may find it cathartic to watch Stewie mercilessly beat Brian over a loan he kept putting off paying.

** Even in the Lego Star Wars short, Jar Jar only appears on camera for a few seconds to be [[Ludicrous Gibs|shot into many lego pieces.]]

* Irving is treated with contempt by the rest of the ''[[Phineas and Ferb]]'' cast, except for the title characters. But then again, who ''doesn't'' Phineas tolerate?

** And even then, Ferb is the only one who doesn't seem to mind... mainly because he's fairly [[The Stoic|stoic]] and [[The Voiceless|nonverbal]]. Phineaas, however, has several times shown to be less than enthused at his presense.

* In ''[[The Simpsons]]'' episode "On A Clear Day I Can't See My Sister", Lisa spends the class field trip to (what's left of) Springfield Glacier ranting about [[Global Warming]] and saying things like "How can you stand around being kids when serious things are happening?!" to her classmates. Bart, in turn, pranks her by making it sound like she's farting and hitting her with a snowball that knocks her into the glacier-lake. However, this inspires the A-plot, where Lisa slaps Bart with a restraining order and uses it as ''carte blanche'' to be a jerk to him.

** After all the abuse and isolation, Bart builds makes a wicker statue of Lisa - who takes it as a symbol of love and respect. In actuality, Bart was planning to burn it as an effigy. {{spoiler|Ironically it was Lisa who sets it on fire.}}

** Given that Jack gave her [[Aesop Amnesia|the exact same speech]] in ''the pilot'', fans are cynical about whether this will stick.

* Rodimus Prime in ''[[Transformers Animated]]'', in his first appearance he ends up getting afflicted with cosmic rust. This has satisfied some fans who don't like Rody.

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