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== Why is Asbel x and Sophie so popular? ==
* No, this isn't another [[Ship-to-Ship Combat]] argument ([[Hypocritical Humor|Pascal's the only girl for Asbel, anyways]]) I just don't know why so many western fans think Asbel and Sophie is a good (well, better than him and Cheria, anyway) pairing. The American fanbase has had a reputation for despising [[Token Mini-MoeLoli|the lolis]] in the series (especially Anise and Patty), so I don't really understand why they seem to all side with Sophie? And as for the whole "whose {{spoiler|baby}} is that?" argument, why does the strong implication that it's Cheria's spark so much ire? Sophie looks about thirteen, so {{spoiler|procreation}} instantly enters [[Squick]] territory there and {{spoiler|1=since she's an [[Artificial Human]] / [[Energy Being]], is it even possible for her to crossbreed with humans anyway?}} Is it just a matter of people not liking Cheria, or is there something more to it? I'm just not sure I really understand what it's all about...
** I can think of a few reasons:
*** Western fans generally prefer [[Action Girl|Action Girls]]. Then again, they usually also prefer [[Tsundere|tsunderes]] like Cheria over [[The Ingenue|ingenues]] like Sophie...
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*** At least they managed to put more skin to Cheria and Asbel relationship in the extra part of the story in Tales of Graces F.
**** Doesn't Asbel adopt Sophie as his daughter? That makes the shipping a bit creepy.
** I can offer one other reason, that ties into how underdeveloped Asbel x Cheria is. While "childhood friends become lovers" is such a popular plot device in japan that it may as well be a fetish, it's just not as popular in the west, and thus there's no inborn preference to allow people to forgive the lack of development in the main game. Also, while Sophie is the [[Token Mini-MoeLoli]] of the game, her age difference compared to asbel is negligible. (bear in mind, I don't like any asbel ships, and from my personal experience if anyone developed the most romantic chemistry with Sophie over the course of the game, it was Malik. Now THAT'S squick.)
 
== Why does Richard {{spoiler|order the execution of Cerdic's soldiers?}} ==
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== "Decide Sabre"? Really? ==
* Pretty much self-explanatory, really... I mean, Bamco tends to have surprisingly good English for BC names, but this? Come off it...
** It's actually meant to be "Deicide Sabre", but the pronunciation got screwed up in Japanese.
*** The line is re-recorded in ''Tales of Graces f'' and now sounds a ''bit'' more like Deicide Saber. Still, it's an awkward name.
**** Are you kidding? God-Killing Saber sounds [[Badass]] and makes sense considering what {{spoiler|Emeraude did to Lambda}}.
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*** Did you read the part where they said {{spoiler|there was ''nothing'' she could do to stop it}}? It sounds to me like she was crying that he was dying and she was crying because {{spoiler|She felt utterly useless. Heck, I know people who woud cry if something like that happened!}}
*** But what bothers me is that she didn't even bother to stop or do anything about it, i saw many similar situation but this is the first time i see someone just give up and scream like that, even most weak willed heroines like Yanagi from [[Flame of Recca]] can spare some time to tries to stop Recca. So i guess...Cheria is just really that desperate,huh?
*** Come now, aren't you just hating on Cheria? Sure, the crying is a bit overly dramatic but would you really have preferred it if everyone just stood there and went "No!"? I mean, no one else did anything either. And even if we ignore that fact, what could she possibly do? She can't throw a knife at it or zap it or whatever. She could try to pull Asbel away but he is stronger than her and would be actively resisting.
*** Not to mention the fact that it's quite jarring. Not only will it possibly undo all the hard work they had just done, she knows exactly what will happen if Asbel gets possessed. Don't forget, THEY'RE AT THE CORE. They're also all exhausted from fighting the final boss. No one is capable of stopping Lambda doing what he wanted to do in the first place and destroying Asbel's body.
== Anyone else think [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character]] with Cheria? ==
* You're not the only one. The problem with Cheria can be boiled down to the fact that she is [[Out of Focus]]. Her [[Character Development]] stops dead after her issues with Asbel are (hurriedly) resolved early in the story, and afterwards she doesn't contribute anything to the plot. It's a shame because she starts as a vicious [[Deconstruction]] of the [[I Will Wait for You]] trope.
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