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** European version is released rather late... but it has [http://i.imgur.com/7IBka.jpg a super spiffy pre-order edition to make up for that!]
** Cheria has ''[[Bolt of Divine Retribution|Indignation]]'' in ''Tales of Graces f''!
* [[BigNon LippedSequitur Alligator MomentScene]]: {{spoiler|Frederic's Mystic Arte "Butler Bomber"}} makes no sense. Why? {{spoiler|Because the dead Aston Lhant appears out of nowhere and joins in to kick your butt.}}
* [[Character Tiers]]: While there's thankfully no hideous imbalance, a lot of players prefer a party of Asbel, Sophie, Hubert, and Cheria for the fact that that particular team is ''very'' diverse. (Plus, Sophie and Cheria are the healers) It's not that the other characters you don't really see much of (Pascal, Malik, and Richard {{spoiler|especially in f where he becomes [[The Sixth Ranger|the seventh party member]].}}) are ''bad'', just that the higher difficulties are [[Nintendo Hard]] and once you find something that works, ''you WANT to stick with it''.
** This exists for solo videos; though. Cheria, Sophie, and Hubert outclass everyone though, simply because they are the most flexible characters.
* [[Complete Monster]]: Cedric, from what little we see of him anyway. He tried to have his eleven year old nephew killed and eventually killed his own brother and started a civil war to gain the throne.
* [[Crowning Moment of Funny]]: The event in which the characters do a play. Hubert as the evil queen included!
** When Pascal first meets Sophie, Sophie throws her into the screen.
* [[Crowning Music of Awesome]]: It's a Sakuraba soundtrack, after all. Although there are a few expies from other works. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iN-M5QsQVeU What Appeared In Eternity's End] sounds like a celtic remix of [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m1Oq1J3wPs The Trial], and [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijqIqDIZUEs Life's Cry] sounds very similar to [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVQcUCBzTLc Unrestrained struggle].
** The theme that plays [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkLzeFmyD3s when you fight the true final boss].
** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hm8PUshRbE Mamoritai ~White Wishes~ English Version] "I wish that two hearts could be one~]"
** On the other hand, even for a Sakuraba soundtrack, the music for Graces is considered by most to be one of the weakest in the series.
* [[Die for Our Ship]]: Cheria, for Asbel/Sophie and/or Asbel/Richard.
* [[Excuse Plot]]: The [[Bonus Dungeon]]. It doesn't even ''try'' to take itself seriously.
* [[Fan -Preferred Couple]]: Asbel/Sophie or Asbel/Richard.
* [[Fan Yay]]: Malik got ''pretty'' popular on [[Bara Genre]] [[Image Boards]] in celebration for the games international release.
* [[Foe Yay]]: Sophie and {{spoiler|Lambda}}. She is completely obsessed with him and [[Say My Name|screams his name a lot]]. Of course, she is sort of {{spoiler|programmed this way, since her sole purpose of creation is to defeat Lambda.}}
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* [[Game Breaker]]: A particular set-up for Hubert allows him to one-shot the strongest enemy in the game, netting enough experience for as many as ''thirty'' level-ups. Note that said enemy respawns.
** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Bo-5qBVoY&feature=sub He got nerfed. Big time.] You can still pull off the [[One-Hit Kill]] combo, but Rockgagan no longer gives you any experience points. (You get a Trophy, but that's it.)
** In the original version of the game, probably as the result of a technical oversight, [[Kill It Withwith Fire|Hadou]][[Sword Beam|meppuu]], was capable of murdering every motherfucker on the screen while being cheaper ''and'' stronger than his final arte ''and'', just like said final arte (Kyokkorenge), it destroyed Nova barriers. [http://s1.zetaboards.com/TeamCepheus/topic/3309931/1/ One fan-translator]{{Dead link}} referred to (jokingly) it as "Cheapass Infinite Fiery Rape Range Attack" for a very good reason. It was toned down in the rerelease.
* [[Hilarious in Hindsight]]: Well, remember that translation patch of ''[[Tales of Hearts]]'' that renamed Kohak into Amber? Well, that's her name in F.
* [[Ho Yay]]: Richard's crush on Asbel, Asbel's admiration for Malik, Pascal's fascination with Sophie. {{spoiler|Lambda!Richard is also pretty much [[Yandere]] for Asbel.}}
* [[Internet Backdraft]] / [[I Knew It!]]: There was some annoyance when ''[[Tales of Graces (Video Game)|Tales of Graces]] F'' was announced, mostly because they essentially purchased a beta version. In all honesty, people didn't know ''what'' to think, since normally, it's the "Beta version" that gets released overseas. Many people were simply happy just that they got the game period, [[And the Fandom Rejoiced]] when it was announced it was the ''[[PSPlay Station 3]]'' version coming out.
* [[Memetic Badass]]: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwsW0O_aRMs You can't spell "Hubert" without "uber."]
* [[Memetic Mutation]]: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzWhuJb5qkU Pascal's drill-trailer].
** Somebody has ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwhZc-LfD2I finally]'' taken that to its logical extreme.
** There's going to be a lot of trouble between her and [[Tales of Symphonia (Video Game)|Raine]] when they star in the inevitable [[Crossover]] game.
** Malik is also known as a King [[Troll]] or [[Rated "M" for Manly|Manlik]].
** [[Game Over|"Mamorenakatta..."]]
** Richard's {{spoiler|slashing frenzy}} has also become [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKEIwnTsCqU rather] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BGGm5j_ZmA popular].
** "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXbAjxy-nBg TOMODACHIIIIIIIIIIII"]<ref>FRIEEEENNNNNNNNDDD!!!!!!!!!!!!!</ref> (spoilers).
** Richard himself is a walking meme. He also has by far the most [[Fan Nickname|Fan Nicknames]]s; such as Flag Prince, [[Dude Looks Like a Lady|Princess]] or Tiger Festival; which is actually used in-game.
** Because of the game's opening song being owned by Avex Entertainment, videos of the opening theme tended to have the audio muted by [[YouTube]]. This has led to a fad where the opening is posted, but dubbed over with the openings from [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCYsUtBk708 other] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EV30fTZ2ZX0 Tales] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL1kkl1JFEA&feature=related games].
* [[Mondegreen]]: Goes into narm territory, as the coup de gras following a dramatic one liner is ruined by the name "Blue Earth" sounding like "Blue Ass" in Japanese. Fortunately fixed for the English release.
** INSTANT BALLS!
* [[Moral Event Horizon]]: {{spoiler|Emeraude ''ripped out Lambda's soul'' for the sake of researching his "true form". You ''bitch''.}}
** {{spoiler|Cedric}} as well. {{spoiler|He repeatedly tried to murder his twelve-year-old nephew.}}
* [[Most Annoying Sound]]: The desert thieves will ''never'' stop repeating ''"I'll run you through!"''.
* [[Narm]]: [[Memetic Mutation|TOMODACHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII! HUARGH]]
** This scene got re-recorded for ''Tales of Graces f'', [[Narm Charm|sadly]]. {{spoiler|The new version makes it clearer that this is the moment where Lambda takes over Richard completely}}.
* [[Never Live It Down]]: Cheria gets captured ''once'', and even then she actively tries to escape on her own. Yet for a lot of Cheria haters, this is enough to demote her to a [[Damsel Scrappy]] or a [[Faux Action Girl]].
* [[Power-Up Letdown]]: The [[Disc One Final Boss]]'s mystic arte is... [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoMwV03UyK8 him lighting his sword on fire and slashing twice.]
* [[Rescued Fromfrom the Scrappy Heap]]: Sophie was the most despised character before the game was released, because a lot of people disliked her design, dislike [[Token Mini-MoeLoli|the loli characters]] in the [[Tales Series(series)]], or wanted Cheria to be the heroine. After the game was released, she became one of the most popular characters in the game.
* [[Silliness Switch]]: The bonus dungeon doesn't even ''try'' to take itself seriously...and in ''ƒ'', they turn it on with the skits.
* [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad]]: While still not in [[Tales of Destiny (Video Game)|Kyle and Reala's]] level, it's very clear that the more further you play the game the lesser you'll see any other character besides Asbel, Sophie and Richard to be on the main spotlight.
** This actually leaks into the character interactions. In one skit, Pascal is shown to be jealous of the fact that despite all her best efforts, she can't crack into the clique of Asbel, Sophie and Richard.
** Although you can spot arcs where someone else jumps into the spotlight - everyone jumps in and out of focus. Early in the game, it's focused on Asbel, Sophie, Richard, and Cheria. Then Asbel and Hubert. Then Pascal and Malik get their time in the sun when the party goes to Fendel.
* [[Strangled Byby the Red String]]: {{spoiler|Asbel and Cheria}} as the [[Official Couple]]. Funnily enough, both the pro- and anti- sides of this pairing have reasons to argue this trope:
** The anti side argue that the pairing comes out of nowhere right at the end, and the game spends a lot more time [[Show, Don't Tell|telling you they can work as a couple]] than showing it. This side also tends to praise the ''Future'' arc for giving the pairing more focus and development.
** The pro side argue that the pairing was developed just fine in the original story if you read between the lines, but accuse the Future Arc of pandering to the Anti Side by beating you over the head with the pairing, as both characters switch dramatically from shy underplay to [[That Makes Me Feel Angry|outright declarations of affection]].
* [[Spiritual Successor]]: Artistically and musically, this game has much in common with ''[[Tales of the Abyss]]'' as opposed to other ''[[Tales Series(series)]]'' titles.
* [[Subbing Versus Dubbing]]: A variant. The actual English cast has been fairly well received. It's just that the arte name translations have been met with much criticism for being lacklustre compared to previous titles and for having some pretty poor grammatical structure (spaces are notably absent in a lot of Asbel's moves).
** One of Malik's artes is ''Sonic Mount''. Can you say, "Awkward"?
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** To elaborate, Kurt attacks a lot, hits hard, and has a wide range of attack. He also delights in [[Shoot the Medic First|ignoring the person dealing damage to him and picking on Cheria and Sophie]], while [[Dangerously Genre Savvy|ignoring Hubert unless he starts healing]]. To make matters worse, he ''summons mooks'' into the battle. If you try to just pick on Kurt to burn him down, the adds will surround and kill you faster than Sophie and Cheria can heal. Stop and beat up the adds so they can't get you? Kurt will run over and pick on Cheria and Sophie. Unless you shut down the difficulty...
* [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character]]: Once [[Ill Girl|Cheria]] developed superpowers and got more than a little pissed that she had to wait ''seven years'' for her [[Love Interest]] to return before gradually becoming part of a quest to save the world after he did, she had ''loads'' of room to develop as a character.
* [[Trapped Byby Mountain Lions]]: The [[Distressed Damsel in Distress|kidnapping]] subplot.
* [[Unfortunate Names]]: Bailey.
* [[Vocal Dissonance]]: Despite this being a game that spares no effort to clobber you over the head with the fact that Asbel is a lord with noble blood [[Department of Redundancy Department|who is aristocratic]], Asbel's voice actors make no audible effort to ''sound'' like it... in either language.
* [[What an Idiot!]]: Releasing this game between [[New Super Mario Bros Wii (Video Game)|New Super Mario Bros. Wii]] and [[Final Fantasy XIII]] may be one of the [[Sarcasm Mode|smartest thing that Bamco ever done]].
** And the American release date is a couple weeks after ''[[Mass Effect 3 (Video Game)|Mass Effect 3]]''. [[Face Palm]]
*** That last one isn't as bad as it sounds, as both games cater to rather different audiences . . . though if you've reserved both you will probably still be killing Reapers when this game drops.
** Also, just a few weeks later in the U.S., the better received [[Xenoblade Chronicles]] was released. It's as if Namco has no idea about the release dates here.
** Cheria also gets kidnapped and tries to break out the front door of the cabin she's being held in...when there's a window ''right there next to her'' that's surely not guarded. Then again though, granted, she'd still get caught cause of the guards right outside the cabin.
* [[Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds]]: {{spoiler|Lambda}}
 
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