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* [[Game Breaker]]: A particular set-up for Hubert allows him to one-shot the strongest enemy in the game, netting enough experience for as many as ''thirty'' level-ups. Note that said enemy respawns.

** [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31Bo-5qBVoY&feature=sub He got nerfed. Big time.] You can still pull off the [[One-Hit Kill]] combo, but Rockgagan no longer gives you any experience points. (You get a Trophy, but that's it.)

** In the original version of the game, probably as the result of a technical oversight, [[Kill It ~~With~~ Fire|Hadou]][[Sword Beam|meppuu]], was capable of murdering every motherfucker on the screen while being cheaper ''and'' stronger than his final arte ''and'', just like said final arte (Kyokkorenge), it destroyed Nova barriers. [http://s1.zetaboards.com/TeamCepheus/topic/3309931/1/ One fan-translator] referred to (jokingly) it as "Cheapass Infinite Fiery Rape Range Attack" for a very good reason. It was toned down in the rerelease.

** In the original version of the game, probably as the result of a technical oversight, [[Kill It with Fire|Hadou]][[Sword Beam|meppuu]], was capable of murdering every motherfucker on the screen while being cheaper ''and'' stronger than his final arte ''and'', just like said final arte (Kyokkorenge), it destroyed Nova barriers. [http://s1.zetaboards.com/TeamCepheus/topic/3309931/1/ One fan-translator] referred to (jokingly) it as "Cheapass Infinite Fiery Rape Range Attack" for a very good reason. It was toned down in the rerelease.

* [[Hilarious in Hindsight]]: Well, remember that translation patch of ''[[Tales of Hearts]]'' that renamed Kohak into Amber? Well, that's her name in F.

* [[Ho Yay]]: Richard's crush on Asbel, Asbel's admiration for Malik, Pascal's fascination with Sophie. {{spoiler|Lambda!Richard is also pretty much [[Yandere]] for Asbel.}}

* [[Internet Backdraft]] / [[I Knew It!]]: There was some annoyance when ''[[~~Tales of Graces (Video Game)|~~Tales of Graces]] F'' was announced, mostly because they essentially purchased a beta version. In all honesty, people didn't know ''what'' to think, since normally, it's the "Beta version" that gets released overseas. Many people were simply happy just that they got the game period, [[And the Fandom Rejoiced]] when it was announced it was the ''[[PS 3]]'' version coming out.

* [[Internet Backdraft]] / [[I Knew It!]]: There was some annoyance when ''[[Tales of Graces]] F'' was announced, mostly because they essentially purchased a beta version. In all honesty, people didn't know ''what'' to think, since normally, it's the "Beta version" that gets released overseas. Many people were simply happy just that they got the game period, [[And the Fandom Rejoiced]] when it was announced it was the ''[[Play Station 3]]'' version coming out.

* [[Memetic Badass]]: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwsW0O_aRMs You can't spell "Hubert" without "uber."]

* [[Memetic Mutation]]: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzWhuJb5qkU Pascal's drill-trailer].

** Somebody has ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwhZc-LfD2I finally]'' taken that to its logical extreme.

** There's going to be a lot of trouble between her and [[Tales of Symphonia ~~(Video Game)~~|Raine]] when they star in the inevitable [[Crossover]] game.

** There's going to be a lot of trouble between her and [[Tales of Symphonia|Raine]] when they star in the inevitable [[Crossover]] game.

** Malik is also known as a King [[Troll]] or [[Rated "M" for Manly|Manlik]].

** [[Game Over|"Mamorenakatta..."]]

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* [[Never Live It Down]]: Cheria gets captured ''once'', and even then she actively tries to escape on her own. Yet for a lot of Cheria haters, this is enough to demote her to a [[Damsel Scrappy]] or a [[Faux Action Girl]].

* [[Power-Up Letdown]]: The [[Disc One Final Boss]]'s mystic arte is... [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KoMwV03UyK8 him lighting his sword on fire and slashing twice.]

* [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap]]: Sophie was the most despised character before the game was released, because a lot of people disliked her design, dislike [[Token Mini-Moe|the loli characters]] in the [[Tales ~~Series~~]], or wanted Cheria to be the heroine. After the game was released, she became one of the most popular characters in the game.

* [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap]]: Sophie was the most despised character before the game was released, because a lot of people disliked her design, dislike [[Token Mini-Moe|the loli characters]] in the [[Tales (series)]], or wanted Cheria to be the heroine. After the game was released, she became one of the most popular characters in the game.

* [[Silliness Switch]]: The bonus dungeon doesn't even ''try'' to take itself seriously...and in ''ƒ'', they turn it on with the skits.

* [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad]]: While still not in [[Tales of Destiny ~~(Video Game)~~|Kyle and Reala's]] level, it's very clear that the more further you play the game the lesser you'll see any other character besides Asbel, Sophie and Richard to be on the main spotlight.

* [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad]]: While still not in [[Tales of Destiny|Kyle and Reala's]] level, it's very clear that the more further you play the game the lesser you'll see any other character besides Asbel, Sophie and Richard to be on the main spotlight.

** This actually leaks into the character interactions. In one skit, Pascal is shown to be jealous of the fact that despite all her best efforts, she can't crack into the clique of Asbel, Sophie and Richard.

** Although you can spot arcs where someone else jumps into the spotlight - everyone jumps in and out of focus. Early in the game, it's focused on Asbel, Sophie, Richard, and Cheria. Then Asbel and Hubert. Then Pascal and Malik get their time in the sun when the party goes to Fendel.

* [[Strangled By the Red String]]: {{spoiler|Asbel and Cheria}} as the [[Official Couple]]. Funnily enough, both the pro- and anti- sides of this pairing have reasons to argue this trope:

* [[Strangled by the Red String]]: {{spoiler|Asbel and Cheria}} as the [[Official Couple]]. Funnily enough, both the pro- and anti- sides of this pairing have reasons to argue this trope:

** The anti side argue that the pairing comes out of nowhere right at the end, and the game spends a lot more time [[Show, Don't Tell|telling you they can work as a couple]] than showing it. This side also tends to praise the ''Future'' arc for giving the pairing more focus and development.

** The pro side argue that the pairing was developed just fine in the original story if you read between the lines, but accuse the Future Arc of pandering to the Anti Side by beating you over the head with the pairing, as both characters switch dramatically from shy underplay to [[That Makes Me Feel Angry|outright declarations of affection]].

* [[Spiritual Successor]]: Artistically and musically, this game has much in common with ''[[Tales of the Abyss]]'' as opposed to other ''[[Tales ~~Series~~]]'' titles.

* [[Spiritual Successor]]: Artistically and musically, this game has much in common with ''[[Tales of the Abyss]]'' as opposed to other ''[[Tales (series)]]'' titles.

* [[Subbing Versus Dubbing]]: A variant. The actual English cast has been fairly well received. It's just that the arte name translations have been met with much criticism for being lacklustre compared to previous titles and for having some pretty poor grammatical structure (spaces are notably absent in a lot of Asbel's moves).

** One of Malik's artes is ''Sonic Mount''. Can you say, "Awkward"?

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** To elaborate, Kurt attacks a lot, hits hard, and has a wide range of attack. He also delights in [[Shoot the Medic First|ignoring the person dealing damage to him and picking on Cheria and Sophie]], while [[Dangerously Genre Savvy|ignoring Hubert unless he starts healing]]. To make matters worse, he ''summons mooks'' into the battle. If you try to just pick on Kurt to burn him down, the adds will surround and kill you faster than Sophie and Cheria can heal. Stop and beat up the adds so they can't get you? Kurt will run over and pick on Cheria and Sophie. Unless you shut down the difficulty...

* [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character]]: Once [[Ill Girl|Cheria]] developed superpowers and got more than a little pissed that she had to wait ''seven years'' for her [[Love Interest]] to return before gradually becoming part of a quest to save the world after he did, she had ''loads'' of room to develop as a character.

* [[Trapped By Mountain Lions]]: The [[Distressed Damsel|kidnapping]] subplot.

* [[Trapped by Mountain Lions]]: The [[Distressed Damsel|kidnapping]] subplot.

* [[Unfortunate Names]]: Bailey.

* [[Vocal Dissonance]]: Despite this being a game that spares no effort to clobber you over the head with the fact that Asbel is a lord with noble blood [[Department of Redundancy Department|who is aristocratic]], Asbel's voice actors make no audible effort to ''sound'' like it... in either language.

* [[What an Idiot!]]: Releasing this game between [[~~New Super Mario Bros Wii (Video Game)|~~New Super Mario Bros Wii]] and [[Final Fantasy XIII]] may be one of the [[Sarcasm Mode|smartest thing that Bamco ever done]].

* [[What an Idiot!]]: Releasing this game between [[New Super Mario Bros Wii]] and [[Final Fantasy XIII]] may be one of the [[Sarcasm Mode|smartest thing that Bamco ever done]].

** And the American release date is a couple weeks after ''[[~~Mass Effect 3 (Video Game)|~~Mass Effect 3]]''. [[Face Palm]]

** And the American release date is a couple weeks after ''[[Mass Effect 3]]''. [[Face Palm]]

*** That last one isn't as bad as it sounds, as both games cater to rather different audiences . . . though if you've reserved both you will probably still be killing Reapers when this game drops.

** Also, just a few weeks later in the U.S., the better received [[Xenoblade Chronicles]] was released. It's as if Namco has no idea about the release dates here.