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''Tales Of Legendia'' is split into two halves: the first is the Main Quest, a typical [[Save the World]] story. The second half of the game is comprised of the Character Quests, a series of loosely-connected side stories focusing on the backstories and development of the supporting cast.

 

 

 

The Character Quest section focuses on [[The Corruption|an evil force]] that has begun to corrupt the monsters and people of the ''Legacy'', forcing each party member to confront their own [[Enemy Without|dark side]].

* [[Aliens Speaking English]]: {{spoiler|The Orerines somehow speak the same language as the Ferines, even though both races were not of the same world. Oddly enough, even though the Ferines know Relares and Old Relares, their native language, they don't use it.}}

* [[All Your Powers Combined]] - Solon, who uses both Iron Eres and Crystal Eres.

* [[Always Save the Girl]]: Senel to Stella, very much.

* [[Always Second Best]]: Shirley, second to her sister, Stella.

* [[Artificial Stupidity]]:

** Unless you turn off several elemental spells, the casters (And Jay considering he deals elemental damage) will have a tendency to spam a particular one. Naturally, this leads to annoying happenings such as Will using Flame Blade on a fire elemental, saying "That didn't seem to work on it", then using it ''again''. Funny considering that he's a [[Bookworm]], but annoying when you find out that this destroys your grade...

* [[As Long as There Is Evil]] - {{spoiler|Schwartz}} claims she exists because of misery and hate.

* [[The Atoner]]: {{spoiler|Alcott/Stingle, Senel, Jay and Will.}}

* [[Awesome but Impractical]] - Tidal Wave, the strongest spell in the game, doesn't have any special requirements to cast it once unlocked, but unlocking it requires [[Randomly Drops|eres stones]] from Dinowyrm enemies. Dinowyrms are a rare variety of monster that are difficult to kill and are only found in the deepest part of the longest dungeon in the game. (Plus, it's learned by Shirley, [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|who has an irritating voice]].) Unless you want to go all the way through the Wings of Light again, you're better off just forgetting about it and sticking with Ray, Maelstrom, and Judgment for your strong sea-elemental spells.

* [[Awful Truth]]: {{spoiler|The [[Hannibal Lecture]] given to the party by Maurits, along with Jay's past.}}

* [[Backstory]]: All of the main characters have one.

* [[Blood Knight]]: Solon and Cashel.

* [[Bratty Half-Pint]] - Harriet.

** {{spoiler|Shirley. Done considerably well, too.}}

** {{spoiler|Jay is also partial to this trope.}}

** Every Oresoren and Ferines also has a name.

* [[Catch Phrase]]: Grune's "Charge!", although the catch phrase was started by Norma.

* [[Chaste Hero]] - Senel. {{spoiler|Although he apparently has reason to believe that he got Shirley pregnant...}}

** Everything Vaclav did to the Ferines (including how Shirley met Fenimore) helps to motivate Shirley into becoming a true Merines (as it is stated by Will that the Ferines may believe that Vaclav's actions are the fault of the entire human race). {{spoiler|Stella's death}} is also a partial factor that pushes her to become the Merines.

** Grune's memory loss is mentioned shortly after meeting her, and her entire Character Quest is based upon her memory {{spoiler|and the duties she carries along with those memories}}.

* [[Dude in Distress]]: Jay in his Character Quest.

* [[The Ditz]] - Grune, of course, though she can also be incredibly perceptive at times.

** Moses and Giet

** Dark Moses and {{spoiler|Giet}}

* [[Easily Forgiven]] :{{spoiler|Maurits, Alcott/Stingle, Shirley, Senel, Jay, and Chloe}} all get easily forgiven then some crap they pulled at some point or other. In some cases, like with {{spoiler|Jay, who was blackmailed}}, it's completely reasonable, in others, like with {{spoiler|Maurits, who was evil by choice}}, it's highly confusing.

* [[Elemental Powers]]

* [[Enemy Scan]]: The Magic Lens'.

* [[Enigmatic Minion]]: Walter. {{spoiler|He fights you a couple times before the Ferines ally with the Orerines... only to start the enemy cycle all over again once the alliance is broken.}}

* [[Evil Laugh]]: Vaclav and Solon are ''full'' of them.

* [[The Exile]]: {{spoiler|Will suffered from this pre-game.}}

* [[Extended Gameplay]]: The Character Quests section.

* [[Facial Markings]]: Senel

** Moses ([[The Big Guy]])

** Jay ([[The Sixth Ranger]])

** At the end of chapter 1, Pippo and Quppo give Senel and Shirley a pair of seashells. {{spoiler|These shells are usually used by the Oresoren to represent an engagement. At the end of the main quest, Senel and Shirley inadvertently complete the Right of Feriyen, [[Book Ends|the Ferines engagement ritual]]. The game never actually states that they're engaged after that, so whether they actually are or it was just a symbolic gesture of cooperation between the Ferines and Orerines is up to the player.}}

** You can also see Grune in the bottom of the screen when the Bantam Bouncers meet Senel the first time.

* [[Go Through Me]]: Fenimore for Shirley, {{spoiler|when the Captain of the Gadorian Knights attempts to kill Shirley. This, however, results in Fenimore's death.}}

* [[Got Me Doing It]]: Grune picks up on Norma's "Charge!", and it becomes her [[Catch Phrase]]. By the time anyone knows it, ''everyone'' is doing it.

** Some of the Puzzle Booths are pretty hard; even to the point where walkthrough creators couldn't even complete them. However, they are by no means impossible. Getting all the treasure chests in the game is also a pain, because after the Main Quest, all the original ones are replaced and there are actually ''new'' ones on top of that.

** Some of the skits qualify as well, which is annoying since Norma gets a title if you view them all. A few egregious examples: one requires you to have your entire team poisoned. Not just the fighting party, ALL EIGHT CHARACTERS AT ONCE. Another requires you to control Senel, fight a team of weaker monsters, and make the battle last more than 5 minutes in a game where fights against level-appropriate monsters MIGHT last a minute.

* [[Healing Hands]]: Will, Norma and Shirley.

* [[Hair of Gold]]: Shirley. {{spoiler|Temporarily loses the trope during her [[Face Heel Turn]].}} Also, Stella.

** {{spoiler|This can be somewhat explained by him being only truly loyal to Shirley; you'll notice that his allegiances tend to align with hers at any given point in the game.}}

* [[Heroes Prefer Swords]] - Averted. This is the first [[Tales Of]] game that the main character uses fists as his weapons instead of a sword.

** Senel's reaction when he does not receive {{spoiler|the blessing of Nerifes}}.

** ''Everyone except Senel'' after {{spoiler|Maurits'}} [[Hannibal Lecture]].

** This happens to each character individually during the Character Quests, save for Senel. Shirley has a slight issue of it during the Interlude. Chloe, Jay and Moses are arguably the worst offenders of this trope; in which case, in the case of Jay's Quest, the group could have avoided getting ready to go after Shirley and Jay if Jay had only [[Poor Communication Kills|taken Moses' advice and told everyone what was bothering him.]] An issue that caused the Oresoren to deal with everything because Jay [[Cannot Spit It Out]].

** {{spoiler|Stella}}

** {{spoiler|Fenimore, for saving Shirley}}.

{{quote|'''Jay''': I'm surprised you can eat that. It's worse than poison.}}

* [[Let's Meet the Meat]]: The skit resulting from equipping a Galf Cloak on Norma is definitely in the spirit of this trope.

* [[Locked Out of the Loop]] - Stella made Senel swear never to tell Shirley about his past or why their village got attacked. When Maurits eventually tells her that {{spoiler|Senel was one of Vaclav's [[Child Soldier]] graduates and a spy for Crusand's army}} at the worst possible time, she's ''much'' more upset about being kept in the dark than about what she's actually being told.

** Stella never specifically MADE him swear he wouldn't tell her. It was what he thought was her {{spoiler|dying wish}}, and promised her that he wouldn't tell Shirley.

* [[Love Martyr]]: Shirley. [[Yandere|Eventually, she gets fed up.]]

* [[Love Triangle]]: Chloe and Shirley both love Senel... except Senel loves Stella.

{{quote|'''Norma:''' So girls, who's your favorite boy?

'''Grune:''' Hm... I guess that would be Senel.

* [[Manipulative Bastard]]: {{spoiler|Maurits}} gets extra points when you realize how he manipulated the heroes. First he {{spoiler|he stops Walter from saving Fenimore in order to give Shirley that final prod to become the Merines.}} And for the grand finale, {{spoiler|he kept the fact that Senel had originally been a member of Vaclav's army, and had originally been sent to her village as [[The Mole]] before his change of heart, to himself just as a secret weapon in case Senel's group managed to successfully break through her nature as the Merines.}}

* [[Marshmallow Hell]]: Grune does this to both Senel and Moses.

* [[Meaningful Echo]]: "I get anxious when another person and I are good at the same things. I always feel I simply must find out which one is truly better," said by Jay. Initially to coax Senel into a boat race. Repeated later to tear down Cashel's confidence and underestimation of the party's strength.

* [[Meaningful Name]]: All the Ferines' surnames are combinations of Relares words, and have something to do with their personalities or abilities. And then there's Grune<ref>German for green</ref> {{spoiler|and Schwartz<ref>German for black</ref>}}.

* [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero]]:

** Senel's infamous decision {{spoiler|to reject Shirley's romantic feelings and "stay with Stella," even though Stella is dead. This is one of the factors in Shirley's decision to complete the [[Face Heel Turn|Rite of Accession]] and become [[Brainwashed and Crazy]].}}

* [[The Nicknamer]]: Norma.

* [[Noble Demon]]: {{spoiler|Schwartz is actually trying to ''save'' the world by destroying it. By destroying the world as it was, she would end all suffering, which was her main goal. She even leaves Senel's group alive after their second to last encounter with her because she wasn't there to kill them.}}

* Percussive Maintenance

* [[Perpetual Frowner]]: Walter.

* [[Plucky Girl]]: Shirley, so very much. {{spoiler|Even during her [[Face Heel Turn]].}}

* [[Power Gives You Wings]]: The Wings of Light.

* [[Power Glows]]: An eren's fingernails glow when they use eres. The Ferines's hair glows when they're submerged in water. {{spoiler|Shirley's hair glows continuously after she completes the Rite of Accession.}}

* [[The Power of Love]]: {{spoiler|Used to convince Shirley to stop the cataclysm...}}

* [[Quirky Miniboss Squad]]: The Terrors.

* [[Railroading]]: If a player tries to wander too far on the World Map, a character will stop you, basically telling you that you have no reason to go that way. This keeps players from visiting unrevealed locations at that point in the game. This actually becomes annoying when one is trying to find treasure chests on the map, as it makes you wait to get any chests beyond that point.

* [[Right in Front of Me]]: Senel, before he finds out about Will and Jay's occupations. He also has this issue with Curtis. In the case with Curtis...

{{quote|'''Townsman''': Do you realize what you've done?! Do you know who this is?!}}

* [[Running Gag]]: Senel's heavy sleeping habits.

* [[Sacrificial Lion]]: {{spoiler|Stella}} and {{spoiler|Fenimore}}.

* [[Smug Snake]]: [[Big Bad Wannabe|Cashel]] and [[Complete Monster|Solon]].

* [[Solve the Soup Cans]]: The Puzzle Rooms. There's never any storyline explanation as to why they even exist, which in and of itself creates a ton of [[Fridge Logic]] as to why places like a bandits' hideout would have one. On top of that, they're not even required to be solved. At any point during the puzzle, you can elect to solve it automatically and move on. Seeing as how all you get for clearing the puzzles without help is [[Bragging Rights Reward|a title for Senel]], there's really no good reason to go through with the puzzles unless you're trying for [[One Hundred Percent Completion]].

** Senel's first mindset is that "If it's not about Shirley, it's none of my business, so don't drag me along with it." Pisses off many people. [[Character Development|He gets better]], though.

** Moses also counts, when he says, "I just wanna stir somethin' up. This ain't my problem."

* [[You Shall Not Pass]]: Walter says this word-for-word in the Wings of Light.

{{quote|'''Walter:''' You... shall not... pass...}}

** Blue: Grune, {{spoiler|Schwartz}}, and Melanie.

** Green: Csaba.