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* So, at the end of the game, if you don't get the [[Multiple Endings|bad ending]], Ratatosk explains that in order to save EVERYBODY and permanently seal the Ginnunga-whatever, he'll have to re-write the laws of nature so the world no longer uses mana as its energy source, meaning it will slowly decline and the summon spirits will cease to exist. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think he said it'd take about a thousand years. Now, keep the following in mind:
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*** Except that Ratatosk doesn't say that he will change the fact that the World Tree still ''produces'' mana. That is, magic is still possible via mana, and all the technology associated can be utilized. Thus the mana just kind of floats around ambiantly, able to be used whenever it is needed.
* Now, if you take ''Dawn of the New World'' to be canon (which Namco seems to be doing, given how much they've promoted it and shoehorned Richter into cameo roles), either Ratatosk went back on his promise (which would mean the world should be overrun by demons, which in ''Phantasia'' it obviously isn't and there's no evidence anywhere of some kind of demon war), the bad ending is the canon one (unlikely given it's fairly short, doesn't give you a [[New Game
** This troper won't pretend that all of Ratatosk's magibabble made total sense to her but it seems like they were trying to explain why mana isn't as important to people in [[
*** At the beginning of [[To P]], Martel's tree is already dead. This doesn't seem to mean the world is in decline, just magic.
*** When Cless & co. revive the tree, it's not because they think that all life will die without it, but because they want mana to be available when they return to their own time so that they can use Sorcery to beat up Dhaos.
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**** First, we know spirits can ''live'' if not necessarily thrive, in a mana-poor environment; hell, they were using some of 'em as batteries during Mithos' reign, and they seemed OK with it. Second, how do we know he didn't ask? He might have had his mobile part Emil ask 'em before going through with it.
**** Since Martel appears for a brief moment in Phantasia while mana was gone from the world in the beginning of the game, this might be the case. Perhaps summon spirits go into a state of dormancy rather than die in the absence of mana.
**** Martel and Sylph both explicitly state in [[
***** If memory serves me correct, the Great Seed produces mana, though it is a small amount compared to when it's germanated. It is this mana that sustains the two worlds, with one world getting the flow at a time.
****** Which explains Cress' era; the fact that one of the two worlds got along without the mana from the seed for generations at a time, but the spirits were still going, indicates that the time between cutting off of the source and total consumption of reserves is quite significant.
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* How did a Russian toast to one's health manage to become the official term for a fire-causing amphibian, anyway?
** It was first discovered at a party being held by Russian-speaking biologists?
** [[In Soviet Russia, Trope Mocks You|In Soviet Russia, Light-Frog names YOU!]]
== Emil's fashion sense. ==
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*** There's a fossilized dinosaur skeleton in Syback, though, indicating life ''millions'' of years earlier- whereas Derris-Kharlan only arrived 12,000 years earlier, which is also far too recently for any evolution from single cells to humans. The most logical conclusion is that life already existed in a manaless state having evolved in a reasonable amount of time and fossilizing as geological processes naturally do, and the Tree hijacked the ecosystem.
*** Except that it's explicitly stated that the first life on the planet were protozoans, and that mana was "the very source of life" before Ratatosk re-wrote those laws. The fossil is a [[Plot Hole]]; either fossils form more quickly in Tales world than in real life, or Namco just wasn't thinking about that when they put it in.
*** When you get right down to it, the ending has a meta explanation. They just plain wrote themselves into a corner when they made mana vital for all life in [[
*** It's possible that protozoans were not so much the first lifeforms as they were the first of a new type of lifeform on Aselia, one that depended on and drew power from mana. Eventually, even the native species would come to rely and draw power from mana as well. Ratatosk saying that the world would return to its natural state seems to indicate that there was life on Aselia before he arrived. It's possible Aselia was lifeless and he could somehow tell life would arise naturally on its own without mana, but that's stretching it a bit.
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** Also listen to what he says when he preforms it it, "Darkness Devours Ain Soph Aur", or translated, "Darkness Devours Light Without Limit". It seems to be talking about the darkness devouring light with no limit. Kind of eerie if you think about it that way...
*** You're missing an exclamation mark there. It's "Darkness devours! Ain Soph Aur!" The original Japanese line goes, "Be devoured by darkness! Ain Soph Aur!"
* This troper assumed that even though it's labeled light elemental, Ain Soph Aur was more of a [[Yin
== Why doesn't Sheena use her Summons in the sequel? ==
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