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== Karol is related to [[Tales of Symphonia|Lloyd and Presea]]. ==
== Karol is related to [[Tales of Symphonia|Lloyd and Presea]]. ==
He looks like he could be either ancestor ,taking one of earlier WMG about Vesperia being on Dherris-Kharlan,or descendand,if Lloyd or his children happened to end up in Vesperia world (maybe looking for Kratos?) and fathered Karol.As for Presea,she could be his mother or grandparent from different parent than Lloyd's descend.Either that or he would be the distant ancestor to both Presea,her gaining his ability to weld axes at such punny size and Lloyd getting his looks and spirits.(Propably being from Anna's part of family rather than {{spoiler|Kratos'}})
He looks like he could be either ancestor ,taking one of earlier WMG about Vesperia being on Dherris-Kharlan,or descendand,if Lloyd or his children happened to end up in Vesperia world (maybe looking for Kratos?) and fathered Karol.As for Presea,she could be his mother or grandparent from different parent than Lloyd's descend.Either that or he would be the distant ancestor to both Presea,her gaining his ability to weld axes at such punny size and Lloyd getting his looks and spirits.(Propably being from Anna's part of family rather than {{spoiler|Kratos'}})
Also,he get's [http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/171/karolloyd.jpg Lloyd's costume] in [[PlayStation 3]] ver.And Klonoa's too which was Presea's costume
Also,he get's [http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/171/karolloyd.jpg Lloyd's costume] in [[Play Station 3]] ver.And Klonoa's too which was Presea's costume
* In this Troper's opinion, Karol is [[Tales of Symphonia|Lloyd's]] other self, his alter ego. Lloyd is confident, stubborn, wants nothing more than to [[Wide-Eyed Idealist|rid the world of racism]], etc, while Karol is cowardly, has no confidence and basically just does what his friends do, although he does eventually grow a backbone.
* In this Troper's opinion, Karol is [[Tales of Symphonia|Lloyd's]] other self, his alter ego. Lloyd is confident, stubborn, wants nothing more than to [[Wide-Eyed Idealist|rid the world of racism]], etc, while Karol is cowardly, has no confidence and basically just does what his friends do, although he does eventually grow a backbone.


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Pretty self-explanatory. The Adephagos was created by the gods to keep humanity from progressing too far. What is a common recurring thing in the Tales series? Some civilization that came long before the current, yet each was destroyed. The explanation? Said civilization became too powerful and was destroyed by the Adephagos. It makes sense. The military and governments of Terca Lumieris were the first to realize the purpose of the Adephagos, and, realizing the immense power of the Children of the Full Moon, began sacrificing them to temporarily hold back the Adephagos, though they were only delaying the inevitable.
Pretty self-explanatory. The Adephagos was created by the gods to keep humanity from progressing too far. What is a common recurring thing in the Tales series? Some civilization that came long before the current, yet each was destroyed. The explanation? Said civilization became too powerful and was destroyed by the Adephagos. It makes sense. The military and governments of Terca Lumieris were the first to realize the purpose of the Adephagos, and, realizing the immense power of the Children of the Full Moon, began sacrificing them to temporarily hold back the Adephagos, though they were only delaying the inevitable.


Along comes Yuri and friends. All this time, the Adephagos has only been held back by sacrifices of other Children of the Full Moon (Estelle's not the only one; the [[PlayStation 3]] version confirms this by stating that anyone with pink hair is a Child of the Full Moon, and likely redheads if their color is light enough. This means that Zagi is one as well, and this fact is alluded to in the [[PlayStation 3]] version.) This will be explained later. As we know, Yuri manages to kill the Adephagos, making him the only individual strong enough to kill it (Duke is possibly another option, but Yuri was able to defeat him, so...). By killing it, Yuri has disrupted the cycle of death and rebirth. The gods will not let this problem go unattended, and will not allow the crime of breaking the natural order go unpunished.
Along comes Yuri and friends. All this time, the Adephagos has only been held back by sacrifices of other Children of the Full Moon (Estelle's not the only one; the [[Play Station 3]] version confirms this by stating that anyone with pink hair is a Child of the Full Moon, and likely redheads if their color is light enough. This means that Zagi is one as well, and this fact is alluded to in the [[Play Station 3]] version.) This will be explained later. As we know, Yuri manages to kill the Adephagos, making him the only individual strong enough to kill it (Duke is possibly another option, but Yuri was able to defeat him, so...). By killing it, Yuri has disrupted the cycle of death and rebirth. The gods will not let this problem go unattended, and will not allow the crime of breaking the natural order go unpunished.


Sometime during Yuri’s travels post-game, he dies either by “natural” means (illness) or gets killed by a deity, angel, or devil in a human form. After his death, he ends up becoming their new bringer of death and destruction. He’s basically no longer human- he’s the Adephagos’ replacement. We all know he doesn’t like killing innocents, so the gods likely very thoroughly [[Brainwashed and Crazy|brainwashed him]] or simply use their power to [[People Puppets|remove his control over his own body while it acts on the wishes of the gods]], [[And I Must Scream|killing everyone and everything as Yuri’s forced to watch himself kill his friends and/or their progeny]] as punishment for killing the Adephagos in the first place. And if and when he gets [[Mercy Kill|put down]], his killer will be the next in line... Sweet dreams.
Sometime during Yuri’s travels post-game, he dies either by “natural” means (illness) or gets killed by a deity, angel, or devil in a human form. After his death, he ends up becoming their new bringer of death and destruction. He’s basically no longer human- he’s the Adephagos’ replacement. We all know he doesn’t like killing innocents, so the gods likely very thoroughly [[Brainwashed and Crazy|brainwashed him]] or simply use their power to [[People Puppets|remove his control over his own body while it acts on the wishes of the gods]], [[And I Must Scream|killing everyone and everything as Yuri’s forced to watch himself kill his friends and/or their progeny]] as punishment for killing the Adephagos in the first place. And if and when he gets [[Mercy Kill|put down]], his killer will be the next in line... Sweet dreams.
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== Yuri, Rita, Judith, and Estelle are the [[One True Threesome|OT4]]. ==
== Yuri, Rita, Judith, and Estelle are the [[One True Threesome|OT4]]. ==
I must be true because it's awesome.
I must be true because it's awesome.
* So it follows that at some point worlds collide and Yuri must duel [[Blaz Blue|Ragna the Pimp-Edge]] for his title.
* So it follows that at some point worlds collide and Yuri must duel [[BlazBlue|Ragna the Pimp-Edge]] for his title.
* There's at least one 18+ doujin focusing on this.
* There's at least one 18+ doujin focusing on this.