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** And there's also Hope Summers aka the [[Canon Sue|mutant messiah]] who Cable adopted.

*** Possibly making Jean Gray her own granddaughter. Via cloning, reincarnation, time travel, and a few alternate universes. Not really clear yet.

*** [[Dan Abnett]] and Andy Lanning made fun of how messed up the Summers family tree is in their [[New Mutants]] run, when Dani Moonstar gets her friend to be Nate Grey's therapist and he notices Hope acting weird around his patient. Dani tries to explain to him that Nate is a younger alternate counterpart of her adoptive father from the future, before realizing how ridiculous it sounds. There was also a bit about [[Captain America|Steve Rogers]] changing his mind and letting the X-Men take care of Nate once he heard he was Summers' relative, implying he doesn't want to even touch anything related to this mess.

*** [[Dan Abnett]] and Andy Lanning made fun of how messed up the Summers family tree is in their [[New Mutants]] run, when Dani Moonstar gets her friend to be Nate Grey's therapist and he notices Hope acting weird around his patient. Dani tries to explain to him that Nate is a younger alternate counterpart of her adoptive father from the future, before realizing how ridiculous it sounds. There was also a bit about [[Captain America (comics)|Steve Rogers]] changing his mind and letting the X-Men take care of Nate once he heard he was Summers' relative, implying he doesn't want to even touch anything related to this mess.

** Magneto's family tree has also been fairly snarled. One of his original two children married into the Inhuman Royal Family, the other married a robot who was the "brother" of Wonder Man (who is himself the brother of the Grim Reaper). Both their marriages have been dissolved, but he's picked up another daughter. Who's dating a Summers. Magneto's eldest daughter died as part of his [[Start of Darkness]].

** He has an alternate reality granddaughter in Nocturne, daughter of Nightcrawler, who has an adopted family as well as numerous half brothers and his mother, Mystique, adopted Rogue. Magneto's ex-daughter-in-law just married Ronan the Accuser, while his son-in-law, the second Vision, also provides him with family in Victor Mancha, the third Vision, the first Human Torch (not Johnny Storm of the Fantastic Four), Toro, Doctor Nemesis, Frankie Raye, Jocasta, Henry Pym, the Wasp and Hawkeye, to name but a few. The third Vision is "brother" to Kang the Conqueror, who is a descendant of [[Doctor Doom]] and Nathaniel Richards , the father of Mr Fantastic and great-grandfather to Hyperstorm providing him with another link to the Summers Family.

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** In ''X-Force'', Eli Bard modified himself using material taken from the Technarch Magus (father of Warlock) and use it to resurrect several deceased characters. As these include Graydon Creed (son of Mystique) and members of the Trask family (whose DNA was copied by Xavier's sister Casandra Nova), everyone resurrected in this way can be, at least tenuously, linked to the family tree. Given Trask's involvement, and the inclusion of robots elsewhere in the tree, this could even be extended to the Sentinels!

** And to Warlock's own son Torgo.

** Scott and Magneto's trees are already connected twice. One way (via the Richards family tree) is listed above. The second is that Vulcan Summers' sister-in-law Lilandra was married to Charles Xavier. Parts of Xavier and Magneto's consciousnesses merged to form Onslaught.

* In Marvel Comics, the Olympian gods are just as twisted as their Mythological counter-parts. [[It Gets Worse]] however, when you factor in that [[The Mighty Thor|the Asgardian god Thor]] is the son of Gaia. That would make him the (half) uncle and grand-uncle of Zeus and his siblings (Gaea being mother and grandmother of Kronos).

** It was revealed that the Elder Goddess Gaia was actually ''the single earth-mother goddess'' (in different guises) in ALL of Earth's pantheons, ''who mated with all the different sky-father gods'', even those who were her own descendants, making virtually all of Earth's gods related to each other through her. This was Lampshaded during the Chaos War (apparently incest is okay when gods do it with each other; this is consistent with the mythological depictions).

* The second [[Ghost Rider]] Danny Ketch [[Dead Little Sister|and his late sister Barbara]] turned out to be [[Separated at Birth]] siblings of the first (if you don't count a wild west chracter later renamed Phantom Rider) one Johnny Blaze and the spirit who inhabited Ketch's body Noble Kale is their ancestor by mother.

* As of [[Avengers Academy]], the abomination that is the Pym family tree has another new branch in William Nelson, the son of Tigra, who is Hank's biological son via a Skrull infiltrator who was using his DNA at the time. From a certain point of view, this makes him Ultron's half-brother.

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{{quote|'''Harry:''' This will be the weirdest family.

'''Draco:''' If you think that, you haven't seen the Malfoy family tree. ''*shuddering*'' That ''really'' isn't a pretty sight. }}

* A series of short Vampire Knight fanfics (Irit’s Daughter, Gertrude’s Closet, Jocasta at the Crossroads, and Vashti’s Feast) written by Ms Izzy takes the already messed up Kuran family, and tangles it further. The fact that Yuuki’s parents are canonly brother and sister seems tame compared to Ms. Izzy’s version. While the family itself is pretty small, it is impressively tangled, with their unnamed mother being the product of another brother and sister pair, and upon her mother’s death took it upon herself the continue the family line with her own father, giving birth to Rido and Haruka with him. It is further implied that she had conceived Juri with her brother/son Rido, rather than her father/husband. Not bad for a series that’s under 2300 words.

* The ''[[Death Note]]'' [[Troll Fic]] ''[[Light and Dark - The Adventures of Dark Yagami]]'' is an impressive continuity snarl that features Dark Yagami, Light Yagami's [[Copy Cat Sue|Copy Cat]] [[Marty Stu]] [[Long Lost Sibling]] who is shagging [[Parental Incest|Light's mom (who is also his mom)]]. But it gets more twisted {{spoiler|he apparently went back in time and fathered himself and later became Light's dad.}}

* In the world of the [[Mega Crossover]] [[Fanfic|fan]][[Web Comic|comic]] ''[[Roommates 2007|Roommates]]'' and its [[Spin-Off]] ''[[Girls Next Door]]'' every [[Witch Species|magical]] [[The Fair Folk|being]] from every [[Fanon]] is related. This is as chaotic and [[Mind Screw|weird]] as you might guess and some even have [[Time Master|time magic]] to boot. Someone theorized in the comment section once that the magic family tree must be the unholy bastard child of an elaborate Celtic knot and the [[Timey-Wimey Ball]].

** The other [[Spin-Off]] ''[[Down the Street]]'' seems to do this with [[Our Vampires Are Different|vampires]].

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== Film ==

* In the ''[[Transformers (film)|Transformers]]'' movie, Sam's [http://tfwiki.net/w2/images2/c/c7/Witwickytree.jpg family tree] apparently suggests two generations of inbreeding. It's more likely however that Sam just did a very poor job on his school assignment.

* In [[The Devil's Rejects]], how the members of the Firefly [[The Clan|clan]] are related to one another is complicated and never fully explained. Otis and Baby refer to each other as brother and sister throughout the movie; Captain Spaulding is Baby's father but doesn't appear to be related to Otis; Mama Firefly is presumably the mother of Baby, Otis (in [[House of 1000 Corpses]] they say she adopted him into the family) as well as Tiny, the deformed giant, and Rufus (from the beginning of the movie). Then we meet a black pimp named Charlie who Captain Spaulding says is his brother (presumably his half-brother).

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* The Kashpaw-Nanapush-Lamartine-Morrissey family from Louise Erdrich's ''Love Medicine''. [[Really Gets Around|Lulu Napapush]] is responsible for at least half of the tangledness.

* Looking at the [[Star Wars Expanded Universe]], try working through [[X Wing Series|Soontir Fel's]] family tree. The Fel family is pretty large even before it gets to him, and then it practically explodes; he marries the sister of Wedge Antilles, trying the Antilles family in, and has a ''lot'' of children with her. Presumably several of the ones who don't get killed off end up married. One of his sons ends up in a relationship with Jaina Solo, daughter of Leia and Han, tying in the Skywalker and Solo lines. It's implied by the [[Star Wars Legacy|Legacy]] comics that his son and Jaina got married. Soontir Fel's great-grandson is [[The Emperor]]. Oh, and in the [[Hand of Thrawn]] duology we found that Fel had clones. [[Send in the Clones|A lot of clones]]. Many of them in sleeper cells, with families of their own. [[Cloning Blues|For some reason]], they almost never show up on family tree charts.

** Add to that the insanity of the Skywalker family. Virgin birth gives rise to Anakin, his son marries a woman who's been trapped in ice since the early Jedi era, his daughter marries Han Solo... Who just so happened to be the last in line of the house of Solo, a dynasty of Kings who used to rule Corellia before it became a democracy. And so on. Then we get to Cade Skywalker. Cade's father was Kol Skywalker. His mother, really got around. She lived a double life as Nyna Calixte, an Imperial Grand Moff, and Morrigan Corde, an Imperial Spy. As Nyna, she'd sleep with anyone who would advance her career, (Moff Rulf Yage, Moff Morlish Veed) as Morrigan, she'd sleep with whoever she thought would help her mission (This includes Cade's father, and Cade's best friend Jariah Syn, whom he considers a surrogate brother), and at least one of her past relationships (Moff Rulf Yage) gave Cade a half sister, Gunn Yage, who Cade almost slept with as well. Cade must've inhereted his mother's sluttiness, as he's slept with a Sith, an Imperial Knight, Princess Fel, Delliah Blue (whom he shares with Jariah Syn in a creepy little 3-way relationship), countless Twi'lek, Human, and Zeltron one night stands in sleazy bars.

* The family tree of Ciri in Andrzej Sapkowski's [[The Witcher]] cycle is a major plot point, as her ancestry is intricately tied to [[The Prophecy]] predicting [[The End of the World as We Know It]], and it gets discussed ''a lot'' at a certain point in the story, but... Well, just abandon any hope to get it without pen, paper and nice two-page wide flowchart, because with the number of mages, elves, [[Kissing Cousins]], [[Brother-Sister Incest]] and whatever else (though, thank you, without [[Time Travel]] {{spoiler|at least until Ciri herself saw to it}}) it is as convoluted as it gets.

* The incestuous Mayfair family in [[Anne Rice]]'s Mayfair Witch series.

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** How about the Mitchells? More just seem to be coming out the woodwork and creating more havoc for Walford Street. There was even a plot about The Secret Mitchell {{spoiler|with Ronnie having a long-lost daughter she thought was dead, [[Shaggy Dog Story|only for her]] [[Killed Off for Real|really die once she finds out the truth.]]}}

** The McQueens from ''[[Holly Oaks]]'' is an [[egregrious]] example despite only appearing on-screen for three years (with [[Retcon|Retcons]] of course saying they've lived there for over a decade and some members to have actually been McQueens but with different surnames), even having multiracial members {{spoiler|and a vengeful son}}.

* ''[[Angel]]'' has some issues with this as well. Considering that the show [[Our Vampires Are Different|treats siring like family]], you have Angel's sire Darla, ''her'' sire The Master, Drusilla, who Angel sired, and Spike, who Drusilla sired. Then Darla was brought back to life as a human when Angel killed her. Then Drusilla sired Darla again, making her-as Dru puts it-both Darla's grandaughter and mother. By extension, this makes Darla Angel's mother and grandaughter and Spike her brother and Great-Grandchild. Then Angel and Darla screw like bunnies, defy the laws of the natural universe and conceive Connor, Angel's son, who by the whole siring thing is also Angel's brother and great-grandson. Then Connor sleeps with Cordy (who Angel is in love with) and conceives Jasmine, Angel's completely evil grandaughter/niece/great-great-grandaughter. And this isn't taking into account that Angel probably sired even more vampires than Dru and Spike, including Penn from Somnabulist and, possibly, James and Elizabeth from Heartthrob. So, theoretically, any on-screen vampire younger than Angel is theoretically "related" to him. Plus, there's the fact that in [[Buffy the Vampire Slayer|Buffy Season 7]] Spike sired a whole bunch of vamps under the First's control, who may have sired others. Angel also sired at least two other vamps in his past, who may have turned others as well.

** Cordelia also had at least one other pregnancy that didn't go to term (a good thing, since it would have killed her in being born). And considering Buffy's romantic involvements with both Angel and Spike, it's something of a relief that Buffy Summers and Scott Summers aren't related...

* In The Pretender you have Jarod who is the son of Charles and Margaret and has a brother Kyle and a sister Emily. He also has a half-brother Ethan who is the son of Charles and Catherine Parker. Catherine also being the mother of Ms. Parker and her long lost twin brother Mr. Lyle. The twins thought their father was Mr. Parker but in reality his long lost brother Mr. Raines is their true biological father and Mr. Raines also had another child Annie with his wife Edna. Oh and Brigitte's son may be the son of Mr. Lyle or his uncle/father Mr. Parker.

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* On ''The New Adventures Of Old Christine'' this didn't end up happening, but was played with a lot when Old Christine was dating New Christine's father, and New Christine was dating Old Christine's ex, Richard, with whom Old Christine had a son. There was one scene were Old Christine was trying to diagram their family tree if both of these relationships ended in marriage.

* On the Australian Comedy-Drama [[Offspring]], the Proudman family seems to be getting like this. The father Darcy has two girls (Main Character Nina and Billie, who couldn't bear a child with her partner so she got sperm donated from his brother instead, but that went down the [[Convenient Miscarrage|gurgler]]) and a boy (Jimmy) by his estranged wife Geraldine and a son (Ray) from a one night stand from Nina's work mate Cherie. And now Jimmy has impregnanted Nina's other work mate Zara. That's nothing right? {{spoiler|It gets more complicated at the end of Season 2 when it's revealed that the Darcy isn't Nina's father. Which makes her not related to baby Ray at all.}}

* On ''[[One Tree Hill]]'' Karen had a baby, Lucas, with Dan Scott who had another son, Nathan, with his wife Deb six months later. Years later Karen ends up getting pregnant by Dan's brother Keith. Her daughter, Lily, is technically both Lucas's half-sister and his cousin.

* Lister from [[Red Dwarf]], who ''gave birth'' to twins via impregnation with ''his'' parallel universe female self<ref>You read that right</ref>, and is also [[My Own Grampa|his own father]] by an alternate universe Kochanski. Which means his children have only 50% genetic material they should have.

* On ''[[American Horror Story]]'' Constance has four kids (three of whom we meet). Her son Tate ends up {{spoiler|impregnating Vivien, who also gets pregnant by her husband Ben on the same day, meaning her twins have different fathers. Meanwhile, Tate falls in love with Vivien and Ben's daughter Violet. And all of this crazy happens before we bring up the fact that Tate is also a ''freaking ghost!''}}.

* [[Married... with Children]]: "In Wanker County, nobody's really outside the family."

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* ''[[Chrono Trigger]]'' has this, and is only exacerbated by ''[[Chrono Cross]]'':

** Marle is part of the Guardia royal family. During her travels she meets Doan, her descendant from the [[Bad Future]], and Ayla and Kino, her ancestors from [[One Million BC|Sixty-Five Million BC]]. She also has a pendant {{spoiler|identical to Schala's, which implies a connection to the Zeal royal family, making Schala and Janus possible relatives as well}}.

*** And at least one ending suggests that Frog{{spoiler|/Glenn}} may be her ancestor as well.

** Lucca helped revive Robo, and her research eventually culminates in the supercomputer FATE {{spoiler|a.k.a. Lynx}}, making her their mother in a figurative sense. She also adopted Kid, {{spoiler|Schala's daughter-clone created while Schala was merged with Lavos in the form of the Time Devourer}}.

** To top everything off, all humans are {{spoiler|descended from Lavos in multiple senses, as the parasite's planetfall wiped out humanity's competition in prehistory, and contact with the Frozen Flame accelerated human evolution and imbued the magical powers that led to Zeal}}.

* ''[[The Sims|The Sims 2]]'' premade neighborhood Strangetown comes with a rather complex family tree. A dead Sim, Glarn Curious, was originally married to Glabe Curious (another theory is that she is his sister). He was abducted by aliens and [[Mister Seahorse|impregnated]] by Pollination Technician 9. After giving birth to twins, Glarn left Glabe and married Kitty Hogleg. They had four kids, and the oldest (Jenny) ended up marrying and having children with Pollination Technician 9 when he crash landed on Earth...

** [[It Got Worse|It gets worse]] with the sequels. In ''The Sims 2'' for PSP, Jenny and the Curious brothers get a new cousin out of nowhere named Sinjin Balani and Pascal Curious gave birth to his alien child, Tycho. In ''The Sims 3: Ambitions'', the family tree is expanded again with Notzo Curious and Zo Curious' parents being revealed. [http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/sims/images/6/60/PollyFamTree.png Here is the family tree for those interested].

** Thanks to Story Progression, it can even happen randomly to players. The mechanic will pair up any sims Young Adult or older as long as they're not directly related. Since the game is only able to keep track of so many relationship taboos, which often leads to [[Kissing Cousins|second cousin marriages]] and the like. Sims can also marry their ex-aunts and uncles (since the game only counts them as related if they're married to a relative) and become their cousins' step-parent. Their new child will be the cousin/stepchild's half-sibling/nephew/niece. To further convolute things, the cousin/stepchild can go on to marry the step-parent/cousins nephew or niece. To complete the circle of fuckery, their child can marry and have kids with the ghost of one of their ancestors. Does your head hurt yet?

* Although one might not count it as a "family" tree, the sheer number of people in the ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' series who are, were, pretended to be, or were semi-kinda-possessed-by-fake Ansem is staggering. {{spoiler|1=Master Xehanort took over Terra's body, becoming the character known as "Xehanort." He pretended to be Ansem, and the Ansem in the first game ("Ansem, Seeker of Darkness") is Xehanort's Heartless. The antagonist of ''KHII'' (Xemnas, an anagram of Ansem with an X added in) is Xehanort's Nobody. Also, Riku (who was possessed for a time and even had his body stolen by ASOD in the first game), using ASOD's powers, took on the form and name of that Ansem. The actual real Ansem (Ansem the Wise, the former ruler of Radiant Garden) is first introduced in ''Chain of Memories'' as "DiZ" (short for "Darkness in Zero") and his true identity is discovered near the end of ''II''.}}

** Not to mention all the many Soras.

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** Also not helped by the Romans' love of adopting nephews as sons, sleeping around as much as the Gods, and of giving all of your daughters the same name.

* The Julio-Claudians were pikers compared to a lot of European dynasties a few hundred years ago. The number of times people married their first cousins to reaffirm long-standing alliances or some such was absolutely unbelievable. Even in the modern day, it still happens - Queen Elizabeth II and Prince Philip are both second cousins once removed and third cousins via different paths. The worst example historically is probably [[wikipedia:Alfonso XII of Spain|Alfonso XII of Spain]] whose grandfathers were brothers who each married their own nieces. Instead of the usual 24 great- and great-great-grandparents, he had 10. Admittedly, that's not directly a Tangled Family Tree, but when it carries on for a while(and it did, for centuries) it can get ludicrously tangled.

** All that that is before you consider that these people were often all rulers in different nations. Just because he's your brother and your cousin doesn't mean that you can't go to war with him, right? Which makes the [[Thirty Years War]] (aka, the bloodiest European war pre-WWI) the second-biggest family feud of all time.

** All that that is before you consider that these people were often all rulers in different nations. Just because he's your brother and your cousin doesn't mean that you can't go to war with him, right? Which makes the [[Thirty Years' War]] (aka, the bloodiest European war pre-WWI) the second-biggest family feud of all time.

** The [[wikipedia:File:Carlos segundo80.png|family tree]] of [[wikipedia:Charles II of Spain|Charles II of Spain]] is also incredibly tangled. In case you don't want to work it out, that means a grand total of ''eight'' separate genomes introduced over the course of seven generations and at least three cases of men marrying their nieces. Not only that, but Joanna of Castile, a.k.a. "Crazy Jane", is most of his great^5 and 6 grandmothers, when it'd be normal to have 16 and 32, respectively. Hence him being a literal deformed moron, hence him being unable to produce children (who would want to touch ''that''?), hence the [[Succession Crisis]], hence the War of the Spanish Succession, or the ''third''-biggest family feud of all time.<br />Louis XIV of France and Leopold I of Austria both had claims to the Spainish throne through Charles II's grandfather, by way of their mothers and their wives. Problem was, one had a mother who was the other's mother's older sister, the other had a wife who was the other's wife's older sister, and nobody could figure out which trumped which. When the third candidate (six year old [[wikipedia:Joseph Ferdinand of Bavaria, Prince of Asturias|Joseph Ferdinand/José Fernando of Bavaria]]) died, the French king moved to have his grandson crowned, and the Austrian emperor moved to have his son crowned. The rest of Europe was terrified of either power gaining control of the Spanish empire, and moved to stop them both. Hence, The War Of Spainish Succession.

*** Philip of Castille and Joanna of Castille together provided about 40.6% of Charles II's genes. That shouldn't work! And frankly didn't!

*** Charles II also had [[wikipedia:Syphilis, congenital|Congenital syphilis]] (His father loved his whores, and pasted it to Carles II's mother, who in turn pasted it to her unborn son), which is know to cause severe birth defects and genetic mutation. This may well have been the first ''new'' genetic information introduced in generations. Think of it as adding a little raw sewage to a gene pool filled with stagnant swamp water.

** Pick a Habsburg. ''Any'' Habsburg. There's a reason there's a wikipedia article on the Habsburg chin.

*** The Habsburgs being the family that controled Austria and Spain. Charles II (remember him?) was the last Hapsburg of the Spainish Branch.

*** The Hapsburg case is one of wanting to keep it "all in the family." Unlike many of Europe's dynasties, they came by the vast majority of their titles through lucky inheritances (having come to power after the black plague devastated most of the noble houses of europe) rather than war, and they didn't want to lose any of them the same way they had earned them. As has been noted, this ultimately produced a literal genetic recipe for disaster.

* [[Older Than Dirt]]: Any given [[Ancient Egypt|Ancient Egyptian]] dynasty, whose [[Royal Blood]] was traditionally "preserved" via so much incest that it gave Pharoah Tutankhamun a club foot and a cleft palate, and was probably the reason he had no surviving offspring.

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*** If Mark Antony had won the war, it would have gotten a lot worse. For example, the [[wikipedia:Donations of Alexandria|Donations of Alexandria]] would have divided the Roman holdings in the Eastern Mediterranean (and parts of Armenia and Persia conquered by Mark Antony in the name of Egypt) into various kingdoms, each with one of Mark and Cleo's children as King or Queen. In Alexandria, Cleo would have been crowned "High Queen and Queen of Egypt". Her son by Caesar, Ptolemy Ceaser (better known by his Latin nickname [[wikipedia:Caesarion|Ceasarion]], meaning "Little Ceaser"), would be crowned "High King, King of Egypt, heir to Caesar (who was by that point raised to the status of living god), Dictator of Rome". You just ''know'' the various lesser kings and queens would get into all kinds of family feuds and incestuous marriages like later day European royalty. Potentially even Twincest since Alexander Helios ([[Meaningful Name|Alexander Sun]]) and Cleopatra Selene II ([[Theme Naming|Cleopatra Moon II]]) were twins, and both included in the land grab. However it gets really interesting when you consider that the King and Queen of Egypt, traditionally ruled together, were related, and [[Parental Incest|married]]. So Cleo's relationship record would've gone "Brother, other Brother, Caesar, Mark Antony, Son."

* Both Queen Victoria of Britain, and Christian IX of Denmark had a lot of children that were married off to the royalty of Europe according to custom. During [[World War One]], every monarch in Europe, even the rulers of minor nations like Romania, and Greece, were the grandchild of Vicky on one side, and Chris on the other, making them both maternal and paternal cousins. (Victor Emmanuel III of Italy being probably the only exception.) Both the Russian Tsar, and the German Kaiser, spoke English as their first language, and the Swiss press at the time called it "the cousins' war". Surreal.

** [[wikipedia:File:Tsar Nicholas II %26 King George V.JPG|Here]] is a photo of British King George V, and his double cousin Tsar Nicholas II of Russia both wearing German military uniforms together in Berlin before the war. Good luck figuring out which is which. They look enough alike to be twins and have the same taste in facial hair.

** Even more surreal when you realise that through Imperialism, they controlled anywhere between 75% and 90% of the world's landmass, making them also the most successful family in human history.

** Victor Emmanuel wasn't the only exception, Franz Joseph of Austria-Hungary was way too old to be the grandchild of Victoria; of course he was a Habsburg, so...