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== Skynet designed the T-800 series using a biometric database of former Californian Governors == |
== Skynet designed the T-800 series using a biometric database of former Californian Governors == |
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Model 101 is based on the [ |
Model 101 is based on the [[wikipedia:Arnold Schwarzenegger|38th Governor of California]]. |
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== Skynet was just doing its job to the best of its abilities == |
== Skynet was just doing its job to the best of its abilities == |
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== The Arnold-style Terminators were never sent back by Skynet. == |
== The Arnold-style Terminators were never sent back by Skynet. == |
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Future John Connor and/or his followers sent them back and told them to lie, because they knew it would just toughen him up, and since Cyberdyne wasn't going to be around to send stuff back if they won, they would have to [[Tricked |
Future John Connor and/or his followers sent them back and told them to lie, because they knew it would just toughen him up, and since Cyberdyne wasn't going to be around to send stuff back if they won, they would have to [[Tricked-Out Time|Trick Out Time]], or all of causality would unravel (well, that or someone from ''further'' in the future would rebuild a T-800/Model 101 and send it back instead of them). |
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== The REAL John Conner -- sometimes referred to as John Conner A -- is the villain controlling Skynet. == |
== The REAL John Conner -- sometimes referred to as John Conner A -- is the villain controlling Skynet. == |
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After all, in case the T-800 failed Sarah Conner would have obviously missed the original father. Only the time-loop and all becomes self fulfilled. |
After all, in case the T-800 failed Sarah Conner would have obviously missed the original father. Only the time-loop and all becomes self fulfilled. |
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== Liquid Terminators are made out of [ |
== Liquid Terminators are made out of [[wikipedia:Gallium|gallium]] == |
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Though the only real basis is the mere fact that both involve a silvery liquid. |
Though the only real basis is the mere fact that both involve a silvery liquid. |
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* So it couldn't be that other silvery liquid at room temperature metal, mercury? |
* So it couldn't be that other silvery liquid at room temperature metal, mercury? |
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** I can even do myself one better with it being some kind of ferrofluid which is a mind bending puddle of silvery metal goop, not unlike a t-1000 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpBxCnHU8Ao |
** I can even do myself one better with it being some kind of ferrofluid which is a mind bending puddle of silvery metal goop, not unlike a t-1000 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpBxCnHU8Ao |
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** This troper finds [ |
** This troper finds [[wikipedia:Utility fog|utility fog]] to be far more likely. At least it's controllable. |
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== Sarah Connor really is insane. == |
== Sarah Connor really is insane. == |
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The American standards for criminal insanity are very strict. A delusion that killer robots from the future are chasing you probably isn't enough to send you to an insane asylum rather than a normal prison. So she was exhibiting signs of actual insanity that her defense team used to help her avoid prison. These aren't clear in the movies, but they become fairly obvious in the TV series. It's not that Terminators are her delusion, it's that they're real, and have driven her insane. |
The American standards for criminal insanity are very strict. A delusion that killer robots from the future are chasing you probably isn't enough to send you to an insane asylum rather than a normal prison. So she was exhibiting signs of actual insanity that her defense team used to help her avoid prison. These aren't clear in the movies, but they become fairly obvious in the TV series. It's not that Terminators are her delusion, it's that they're real, and have driven her insane. |
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== Judgement Day was inevitable because of the [[Stable Time Loop]]. == |
== Judgement Day was inevitable because of the [[Stable Time Loop]]. == |
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Think about it-if Sarah,John or the T-800 were sucsesful in [[Ret |
Think about it-if Sarah,John or the T-800 were sucsesful in [[Ret-Gone|erasing Skynet's existence,]]John and the T-800 would [[Ret-Gone|be retgoned]],and she wouldn't have any memories of the event:leading to a [[Temporal Paradox]].Though its shown that it can be malleable,the timeline couldn't deal with such a paradox.The same is true,to some extent,with Skynet:it couldn't kill John Connor in the past,as if it sucseeded it would have no reason too.Every timeline of the Terminator universe must have a Conner and a Skynet,to prevent the paradox |
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== Terminators have a structural weakness in their hips. == |
== Terminators have a structural weakness in their hips. == |
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(This, of course, only works if you ignore Sarah Connor Chronicles) |
(This, of course, only works if you ignore Sarah Connor Chronicles) |
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== Skynet stole its time travel technology from the [[Doctor Who |
== Skynet stole its time travel technology from the [[Doctor Who|TARDIS]] == |
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At some point in his travels, The Doctor travelled to 2029 Earth, in the hopes of aiding the Resistance. However, he ended up losing track of his TARDIS, and it was taken by Terminators back to Skynet's base of operations. |
At some point in his travels, The Doctor travelled to 2029 Earth, in the hopes of aiding the Resistance. However, he ended up losing track of his TARDIS, and it was taken by Terminators back to Skynet's base of operations. |
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So, in the end, the T-800 genuinely sided with the Connors to try to avert Skynet's creation. ''Not'' because it saw that Skynet was evil to exterminate millions of hapless humans -- it still didn't understand why human life was particularly valuable -- but simply because Skynet was '''wrong''' ... which, to a machine governed by calculated rationality, was reason enough to stop it. |
So, in the end, the T-800 genuinely sided with the Connors to try to avert Skynet's creation. ''Not'' because it saw that Skynet was evil to exterminate millions of hapless humans -- it still didn't understand why human life was particularly valuable -- but simply because Skynet was '''wrong''' ... which, to a machine governed by calculated rationality, was reason enough to stop it. |
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== The ''[[ |
== The ''[[Doctor Who]]'' universe is a later iteration of the ''Terminator'' one. == |
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The Time Lords noticed the damage that the Human-Skynet Time War was doing to the fabric of the universe, and [[Doctor Who |
The Time Lords noticed the damage that the Human-Skynet Time War was doing to the fabric of the universe, and [[Doctor Who/Recap/S3 E10 The War Machines|interfered]] [[Doctor Who/Recap/S10 E5 The Green Death|with]] Earth's twentieth-century history so that humanity learned the dangers of strong AI before anyone could think of giving a computer complete control of nuclear weapons. |
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== Kyle Reese was right. == |
== Kyle Reese was right. == |
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The Nightlords aren't stupid, however, and somehow became aware of the intrusions and put up a barrier, one that prevents anything non-organic (unless it's covered in living flesh) entering entering either Earth or the Nightlands from another dimension, like time. |
The Nightlords aren't stupid, however, and somehow became aware of the intrusions and put up a barrier, one that prevents anything non-organic (unless it's covered in living flesh) entering entering either Earth or the Nightlands from another dimension, like time. |
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== Time travel in this world [[Ripple |
== Time travel in this world [[Ripple-Effect-Proof Memory|has no ripple effect]] == |
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From the moment you go back in time, you're immune to any changes you create. It doesn't matter if you kill your grandfather or nuke your whole country - you exist and so do the things you've done. If you go back to the future nobody might recognize you, but you'll still exist no matter how many paradoxes you seem to cause. |
From the moment you go back in time, you're immune to any changes you create. It doesn't matter if you kill your grandfather or nuke your whole country - you exist and so do the things you've done. If you go back to the future nobody might recognize you, but you'll still exist no matter how many paradoxes you seem to cause. |
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