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** Also, the idea of a Batman ''anime'' made some fans leery, until the name ''[[Batman: The Animated Series|Kevin Conroy]]'' showed up.
** The series essentially started with this. After the [[Joel Schumacher]] films, another Batman film (proper origin story or not) wasn't something anyone was getting terribly excited about. Until it was announced that it would be from the same [[Christopher Nolan|director]] as ''[[Memento]]'' and starring [[American Psycho|Patrick Bateman]] that fans had any hope that it would be worth getting excited about.
** For ''The Dark Knight Rises'', [[Tom Hardy]] as Bane. Cranked [[Up to Eleven]] when the first photo [https://web.archive.org/web/20120822082605/http://ca.io9.com/5803953/first-photo-of-tom-hardy-as-bane came out].
** For some, the fact that the film won't be in 3D.
** The prologue. Even if we couldn't understand what Bane was saying, it was clear that Nolan was writing him as a [[Genius Bruiser]], something that Bane has had trouble with for years now.
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* [[Crowning Music of Awesome]]: When your films are scored by Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard, what else can you expect?
** ''The Dark Knight Rises'' will be done without JNH's input due to scheduling conflicts. Only time will tell if the musical cart is upset because of this.
* [[Designated Hero]]: Jim Gordon can come off as this a little bit. When discussing whether he'll tell Internal Affairs about his corrupt partner, he mutters "I'm not a snitch" like that's a ''good'' thing. He also apparently shared the other cops' disgust for Harvey Dent when he was in IA, despite not being corrupt himself. While he does many heroic things through the course of the trilogy, his dedication to protecting corrupt cops because of the "Blue Wall of Silence" [[Moral Event Horizon|can leave a lingering bad taste in some viewers' mouths]].
* [[Downer Ending]]: ''The Dark Knight''. It's got a Downer Beginning and a Downer Middle as well. There's sort of an uplifting three-quarter point, but that's after two Downer Hours.
* [[Deconstruction Fic]]: Has several fics that deconstruct the [[Rape Is Love]] and OC/Joker Rape Fic genre.
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]]:
** Johnathan Crane, thanks to being played by the handsome Cillian Murphy.
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*** Bane's [[The Unintelligible|voi]][[What the Hell Is That Accent?|ce]] was met with a bit of mockery, though this voice was later remixed to make it sound more coherent.
*** [[Fan Dumb|In a specifically annoying case]], some comic fans were [[Unpleasable Fanbase|up in arms]] that [[Anne Hathaway]] was not hot enough and [[Bigger Is Better|did]] [[Most Common Superpower|not]] [[Big Bra to Fill|possess]] the correct assets to play [[Catwoman]]. Her acting ability was not discussed].
* [[The Scrappy]]: Rachel Dawes. The recasting arguably led to her being [[Rescued Fromfrom the Scrappy Heap]]; unfortunately, it was just a prelude to being [[Stuffed Into the Fridge]].
* [[Straw Man Has a Point]]: At one point Lucius Fox bemoans that the government didn't consider a soldier's life worth $300,000 for a high-tech bodysuit. Actually the government would have to spend $437,058,600,000. That's just for the suits, and just one of each for each member of active duty military personnel, not counting replacements and spares (of the suits) and reservists (of the personnel). And that's for a suit that Bruce apparently ''couldn't turn his head very well in'' in its original iteration. Just to be clear, that's already approaching the budget for the '''entire US military'''. Add in the additional costs of suits for reservists and everyone having at least one spare in case theirs was destroyed in combat, and the suits would cost almost four times the entire military's budget, just for ground troop body armor.
** Two-Face's lambasting of Gordon as being responsible for Rachel's death and his disfigurement is actually pretty accurate. As noted above, Gordon was more likely to protect the corrupt cops on his force rather than rooting them out, and that fairly heavily contributed to most of the evil that happened in the second movie.
* [[True Art Is Angsty]]: ''The Dark Knight'' is easily the darkest film adaptation of Batman ever made. It's also the most critically-acclaimed. The Dark Knight Rises is about the same, maybe even moreso.
* [[Villain Decay]]: Scarecrow. He starts off as the [[Big Bad]] of [[Batman Begins]], or so we think. Ra's Al Ghul returns, revealing that Scarecrow is just [[The Dragon]]. It gets worse when he is taken down in the end by Rachel Dawes and a stun gun. He shows up at the beginning of the [[Dark Knight]] as a lowly drug dealer and is quickly apprehended by the end of the scene.
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* [[What Do You Mean It's Not for Kids?]]: ''The Dark Knight'' is rated PG-13, and many think the MPAA was too lenient with the rating. It is definitely ''not'' a children's movie.
** Though, to be fair, Nolan went out of his way to avoid sex, visible blood, and swearing, the [[Omniscient Council of Vagueness|MPAA's]] only real standards for R ratings. Sort of a [[Genre Savvy]] for filmmaking on his part. If the MPAA was really about determining what children should see, their standards would be much different, and Dark Knight would not have been PG-13. For that reason, and that reason ''only'', may it also fall under [[What Do You Mean It's for Kids?]].
** A good deal of younger demographic merchandise was also released including snack foods, [http://radiated5.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/lego-tumbler-box.jpg LEGO] [http://downloadyellow2097lego.webs.com/lego%20batman%20tumbler%20batmobile%20joker%201.jpg sets]{{Dead link}}, and [http://batman.wikia.com/wiki/The_Dark_Knight_children%27s_books children's books.]
* [[What Do You Mean It's Not Political?]]: [[Word of God]] denies it, but there's too many allegories for aspects of the war on terror to simply overlook it. Go to the trope's page for a better explainationexplanation.
** The disturbingly realistic style in which exploding buildings and subsequent wreckage were shot can't help but evoke 9/11 somewhat. There's a reason people referred to Joker as a terrorist in the film.
** The use of {{spoiler|unwitting Gotham residents' cell phones as a kind of sonar}} absolutely ''reeks'' of current political battles over the legality of wiretapping calls overseas. It seems to come out vaguely in favor of its use in extremely limited situations, but also recognizes that those uses must be accounted for {{spoiler|as Lucius and Bruce destroy the surveillance device once the Joker is apprehended}}.
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** And with ''Rises'', Anne Hathaway as Catwoman and Tom Hardy as Bane.
 
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