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** Mannimarco too. His mooks are slow and avoidable, he has no game in melee combat, and if you have a decent weapon, then he can be killed with a dozen or so attacks at the most.
*** He becomes even more of one for a player of Daggerfall, who likely would have expected Mannimarco, the King of Worms to look like the King of Worms (imposing, clad in a red robe covering his face in shadow, eyes glowing brightly). Oblivion's incarnation... is a fairly ordinary-looking Altmer.
* [[Complete Monster]]: Mankar Camoran is the leader of the Mythic Dawn cult, and is the driving force behind bringing Mehrunes Dagon into Nirn so he can lay waste to it. The psycho also promises a paradise for the cult members who die, which is really {{spoiler|a twisted pocket dimension where he tortures them for all eternity.}} To say this guy has a few screws lose isn't saying nearly enough.
* [[Complete Monster]]: Many.
** Kurdan gro-Dragol, who {{spoiler|uses a brutal loanshark persona as a front for his [[Hunting the Most Dangerous Game|murder tournaments]], kills Aleron Loche after you've been trying to save him, then laughs in your face.}}
** Countess Alessia Carol, who tortures people for no better reason than [[Fantastic Racism|being of the beast races.]]
** Kurdan gro-Dragol, who uses a brutal loanshark persona as a front for his [[Hunting the Most Dangerous Game|murder tournaments]], kills Aleron Loche after you've been trying to save him, then laughs in your face.
** Francois Motierre, who allows his own mother to be killed in order to get the Dark Brotherhood to fake his death for him.
** Mathieu Bellamont, the villain of the Dark Brotherhood quest. The only reasonable argument for him not being this is due to the [[Evil Versus Evil]] nature of the story here – if he did the same things to ''any'' other faction in the game, he would '''definitely'' be a [[Complete Monster]].
** The residents of Hackdirt. With the exception of Jiv Hiriel, they all are creepy, vile and malevolent. <ref>The whole quest is a [[Shout Out]] to ''The Shadow Over Innsmouth''.</ref>
** Your fellow Dark Brothers and Sisters in the Sanctuary may also count; if you actually take time to talk to them at the start of each Dark Brotherhood quest they have some interesting things to say. Most notably, the Orc brags to you about killing a 6 year old girl, and Antoinetta Marie cheerfully tells you about how she murdered her own aunt in cold blood by putting poison in her soup...
*** The protagonist of s\he completes the entire Dark Brotherhood quest chain {{spoiler|(hell, the Night Mother even points this out, claiming you have a soul as black as midnight)}}
**** This is confirmed as canon in [[Skyrim]] when you meet him/her as Sheogoath, who alludes to having been Listener and the Grey Fox.
*** The ''entire'' Dark Brotherhood is made up of Complete Monsters, if you're familiar with the backstory. They are a gleefully murderous cult who know exactly that what they are doing is wrong, but do it anyway to impress their facetious godhead who, given his status as the ''absence'' of being, wouldn't give a damn either way.
** Mannimarco, Tamriel's first lich and greatest necromancer, and leader of the Order of the Blackworm, who murders and tortures countless people, including {{spoiler|all but one of the Bruma mages}}, and reportedly knows a spell that turns people into undead ''[[And I Must Scream|while they're still alive]]''.
** Umaril the Unfeathered, originally a brutal Ayleid tyrant, now a half Ayleid, half Daedra [[Omnicidal Maniac]].
** Mannimarco is a necromancer who {{spoiler|leads a vicious assault on the Bruma Mages Guild and slaughters almost everyone inside, makes no bones about wishing to do the same for the other Guild chapters, and also researches Black Soul gems which leave their victims to a fate worse than death. He plans on leading Archmage Hannibal Traven into this fate as well}} all out of spite for an old enemy of his who founded the guild.
* [[Crazy Awesome]] - Sheogorath is, almost literally, practically the ''embodiment'' of this trope. For example, if you attack him, he executes you by teleporting you hundreds of feet above the Isles, ''just to fall to your death''!
* [[Demonic Spiders]] - If you're playing vanilla Oblivion and you've leveled up too high, ''every single enemy'' becomes a demonic spider due to the game's [[Level Scaling|leveled enemies system]].
** To be more specific: Will-o-Wisps, who are, count 'em: magic resistant, fast, turn invisible, can only be hurt with silver/magic weapons, drain stats and can make your weapons/armor rot off your body. And Spider Daedra are literally giant deadly demonic spider-women. Who spawn miniature versions of themselves that paralyze you, so they fit the trope too.
* [[Draco in Leather Pants]] - Mannimarco, and by extension, his Necromancer followers.
* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Despite being hated so much, the Adoring Fan is also considered this in a convoluted way. Lots of fans love him because of all the creative ways he can be killed, and the fact that he can respawn later makes it even better. Basically, he's such a good punching bag that he's earned love because of that!
* [[Game Breaker]] - So much that it takes up half [[Game Breaker/The Elder Scrolls|the page]].
** The Imperial Guards in general are also this due to how hilariously hammy they are when apprehending the player character when a crime has been committed.
* [[Goddamn Bats]] - Goddamn scamps. Goddamn rats. Goddamn wolves. Goddamn silly bandits.
** Ditto for Lucien Lachance, your mentor during the Dark Brotherhood storyline. The Brotherhood in general is very popular, but especially Lucien for his (at least, artistically interpreted) good looks, awesome voice, and friendly nature despite being a cold-blooded, card-carrying assassin. He's so popular that {{spoiler|he came back in the next game as a summon once you get far enough in that game's Dark Brotherhood questline.}}
* [[Game Breaker]] - So much that it takes up half [[Game Breaker/Video Games/Roleplaying Games/The Elder Scrolls|the page]].
* [[Goddamn Bats]] -: Goddamn scamps. Goddamn rats. Goddamn wolves. Goddamn silly bandits.
* [[Good Bad Bugs]]: Once Mythic Dawn agents start openly attacking people, it's possible for one such agent, Cingor, to be rendered not just peaceful, but ''friendly'' with a high enough influence in the Fighter's Guild.
** One of the rather hilarious ones involves Shadowmere, the horse you can get during the Dark Brotherhood questline. Unlike all other horses she's marked as essential and cannot be killed, only briefly knocked unconscious. It is still possible to access her as if she was a corpse, though, and as with all other bodies it is possible to place items into her inventory, essentially turning her into a portable storage chest. Furthermore, placing potions into her inventory will cause her to actually drink them during battle, enhancing her already considerable combat effectiveness.
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** The blacksmith in Mania will hit on the player if you're a male character. Did I mention this blacksmith is a gay Orc?
* [[It's Popular, Now It Sucks]]: Oblivion received this reaction from the rest of ''[[The Elder Scrolls]]'' fanbase upon it's success.
* [[Magnificent Bastard]]: The antagonist of the Dark Brotherhood questline {{spoiler|Mathieu Bellamont despite being ''completely'' off his rocker. The guy infiltrates the Dark Brotherhood for the purpose of tearing it apart from the inside, and not only gets Lucien Lachance paranoid enough to order the player to completely purify (Or in other words, wipe out) the Cheydinal Sanctuary, but also successfully plants fake orders from Lucien that gets the player to unwittingly kill off high ranking members of the Dark Brotherhood including the Listener himself! By the time you find him out, the Brotherhood has been reduced to a ridiculously small amount of members. Not bad for a guy driven batshit insane as a little boy.}}
* [[Memetic Mutation]] - The game spawned memes: Rufio from Dark Brotherhood. Throwing the Adoring Fan off of Dive Rock. "I saw a mudcrab the other day." And, of course...
{{quote| '''''"[[Large Ham|STOP RIGHT THERE, CRIMINAL SCUM]]!''''' '' You violated the law! [[City Guards|Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence. Your stolen goods are now forfeit!]]"''}}
** To forget the Dark Brotherhood's five tenets... is to invoke the Wrath of Sithis.
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** Farwil Indarys. His irritating [[Artificial Stupidity|gameplay-related]] "qualities" are even [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]] by the Count of Cheydinhal, Andel Indarys... ''his own father''.
* [[Uncanny Valley]] - Some of the NPCs look and act like they have Down Syndrome, staring at you bug-eyed throughout every conversation. Without mods, almost every human face looks blotchy and blurry, like they paired high-poly models with Voodoo-era textures. Zooming in for conversation with any non-Argonian (especially Redguards!) immediately reminds you that you're playing a videogame. They really should have spent a few more megabytes on face textures.
** The Brethren of [[Town Withwith a Dark Secret|Hackdirt]] invoke this deliberately with their unusually large eyes. At first, [[Nightmare Face|it's very unnerving.]] But once you find out who they are [[Complete Monster|(and their goal)]], they're [[Nightmare Fuel|fucking terrifying]].
* [[Villain Decay]] - It hits Mannimarco rather hard. Throughout the Mages Guild questline, he is set up as the [[Big Bad]] of that story, having characters become unnerved or outright terrified by knowing that he has reappeared, there's a pretty good poem-style book about his history to find which sets him up as a powerful evil, at one point, he deals a scarily effective, unexpected blow to the Mages Guild and the only survivor of the attack is terrified and tells you how he, concealed by magic, watched Mannimarco rip out his friend's soul and how he believes the guy actually could see through his magical disguise and pretty much just spared him for fun. Then Mannimarco effectively manages to corrupt and disrupt the Mages Council. By the end of the questline, you seriously get the feeling that everything's going to hell for the Mages Guild if you don't stop him quickly. So, after finding his hideout and slaughtering your way through his minions, {{spoiler|he's a moderately powerful Altmer wizard whose spells might be slightly threatening at the very worst, and silencing him will reduce him to waving a dagger at you.}}{{spoiler|[[Senseless Sacrifice|Yep, this is the guy who Hannibal Traven thought was such a threat that he voluntarily soul-trapped himself to give you some sort of advantage.]]}}
** Makes for quite an [[Anticlimax Boss]].
** It also hits him, [[Your Mileage May Vary|arguably]], in relation to ''Daggerfall'', in a more visual way. Compare the King of Worms there with the Altmer of ''Oblivion'': http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:King_of_Worms.
* [[Woobie]] - Antoinette Marie of the Dark Brotherhood went through an absolutely horrible life, mentioning how horribly she was treated by the Imperial City's prison guards among other things. She also looks so sweet and innocent... though the fact that she's a remorseless stone-cold killer who laughs about a time she poisoned her aunt kind of makes her lose woobie points a bit.
* [[Woobie]] - Antoinette Marie of the Dark Brotherhood
 
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