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{{quote|''Life is short; When you're done, you're done.<br />
{{quote|''Life is short; When you're done, you're done.<br />
We're on this earth to have some fun.''|'''Naveen''', ''[[The Princess and The Frog]]''}}
We're on this earth to have some fun.''|'''Naveen''', ''[[The Princess and the Frog]]''}}


This character is strongly motivated by a desire to be happy and experience various kinds of pleasure. Unlike an [[Ethical Hedonist]], however, the character isn't mature enough to sufficiently consider even his own long-term needs, much less the (short-term or long-term) needs of others. Personal instant gratification is the goal here. Sometimes [[Flanderization|Flanderized]] so that the pursuit of pleasure becomes the character’s ''only'' defining trait, doing whatever feels good without any thought of the consequences. Such a childish mentality is often justified by the character actually being a child. If the character is adult, he might be a sex maniac… [[Lovable Sex Maniac|lovable]] or [[Complete Monster|otherwise]].
This character is strongly motivated by a desire to be happy and experience various kinds of pleasure. Unlike an [[Ethical Hedonist]], however, the character isn't mature enough to sufficiently consider even his own long-term needs, much less the (short-term or long-term) needs of others. Personal instant gratification is the goal here. Sometimes [[Flanderization|Flanderized]] so that the pursuit of pleasure becomes the character’s ''only'' defining trait, doing whatever feels good without any thought of the consequences. Such a childish mentality is often justified by the character actually being a child. If the character is adult, he might be a sex maniac… [[Lovable Sex Maniac|lovable]] or [[Complete Monster|otherwise]].
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== Fan Fic ==
== Fan Fic ==
* In ''[[Calvin and Hobbes The Series (Fanfic)|Calvin and Hobbes The Series]]'', {{spoiler|the heroes' [[My Future Self and Me|future selves]] turn out to be this. They'll go to any lengths to find fun... ''[[Deconstructed Trope|any]]'' [[Deconstructed Trope|lengths.]]}}.
* In ''[[Calvin and Hobbes: The Series|Calvin and Hobbes The Series]]'', {{spoiler|the heroes' [[My Future Self and Me|future selves]] turn out to be this. They'll go to any lengths to find fun... ''[[Deconstructed Trope|any]]'' [[Deconstructed Trope|lengths.]]}}.




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* [[Tim Curry|Dr. Frank N Furter]] from ''[[The Rocky Horror Picture Show]]'' does whatever he pleases in the name of "absolute pleasure".
* [[Tim Curry|Dr. Frank N Furter]] from ''[[The Rocky Horror Picture Show]]'' does whatever he pleases in the name of "absolute pleasure".
* The original version of the movie ''[[Alfie]]''.
* The original version of the movie ''[[Alfie]]''.
* This serves as Prince Naveen's [[Fatal Flaw]] in ''[[The Princess and The Frog]]'' -- he's a raging pleasure seeker who doesn't want (or rather, doesn't really ''know how'') to actually work towards anything.
* This serves as Prince Naveen's [[Fatal Flaw]] in ''[[The Princess and the Frog]]'' -- he's a raging pleasure seeker who doesn't want (or rather, doesn't really ''know how'') to actually work towards anything.
* Timon and Pumbaa from ''[[The Lion King]]''. The main conflict from their part of the story is Simba's conflict over whether to continue his carefree lifestyle with them or to stand up and retake his place as king from Scar.
* Timon and Pumbaa from ''[[The Lion King]]''. The main conflict from their part of the story is Simba's conflict over whether to continue his carefree lifestyle with them or to stand up and retake his place as king from Scar.
* The main character in ''[[Bad Lieutenant Port of Call New Orleans (Film)|Bad Lieutenant Port of Call New Orleans]]''. When they say he's "bad," they're not kidding around.
* The main character in ''[[The Bad Lieutenant: Port of Call New Orleans|Bad Lieutenant Port of Call New Orleans]]''. When they say he's "bad," they're not kidding around.




== Literature ==
== Literature ==
* The ''[[Brave New World (Literature)|Brave New World]]'' ''lives'' by this philosophy. If nothing else works, you can take ''soma.''
* The ''[[Brave New World (novel)|Brave New World]]'' ''lives'' by this philosophy. If nothing else works, you can take ''soma.''
* ''[[The Picture of Dorian Gray]]'': Dorian Gray and his mentor Lord Henry are both depraved hedonists.
* ''[[The Picture of Dorian Gray]]'': Dorian Gray and his mentor Lord Henry are both depraved hedonists.
* Many Dark Others (no surprise there) but also Light Others exhibit this trait in the ''[[Night Watch]]'' series. For the former, it results in part from their philosophy's emphasis on putting self-interest about anything else, but for all Others, a combination of [[Who Wants to Live Forever?|long-lasting youth]] and disengagement from human society results in boredom that they try to stave off through sensual indulgence.
* Many Dark Others (no surprise there) but also Light Others exhibit this trait in the ''[[Night Watch]]'' series. For the former, it results in part from their philosophy's emphasis on putting self-interest about anything else, but for all Others, a combination of [[Who Wants to Live Forever?|long-lasting youth]] and disengagement from human society results in boredom that they try to stave off through sensual indulgence.
* [[Jane Austen (Creator)|Jane Austen]]'s male [[Romantic False Lead|Romantic False Leads]] usually fall under this, such as John Willoughby in ''[[Sense and Sensibility (Literature)|Sense and Sensibility]]'' and Henry Crawford in ''[[Mansfield Park]]''.
* [[Jane Austen]]'s male [[Romantic False Lead|Romantic False Leads]] usually fall under this, such as John Willoughby in ''[[Sense and Sensibility (novel)|Sense and Sensibility]]'' and Henry Crawford in ''[[Mansfield Park]]''.
* Captain Laughton in ''[[Bloody Jack|The Wake Of The Lorelei Lee]]'' is of the [[Ethical Hedonist]] variety. Or at least the "I want everyone around me to be as happy as I am" variety.
* Captain Laughton in ''[[Bloody Jack|The Wake Of The Lorelei Lee]]'' is of the [[Ethical Hedonist]] variety. Or at least the "I want everyone around me to be as happy as I am" variety.
* [[Bottle Fairy|Nikki]], the protagonist's mother in ''The Rules of Survival,'' is this to a really, ''really'' unhealthy degree.
* [[Bottle Fairy|Nikki]], the protagonist's mother in ''The Rules of Survival,'' is this to a really, ''really'' unhealthy degree.
* Graendal of ''[[The Wheel of Time]]'' was formerly an extreme ascetic type who embraced hedonism as part of a [[Faith Heel Turn]] when she realized that no-one else could live up to her ridiculously high standards- in other words, she's a hedonist out of spite. The other part of her turn was joining the forces of Evil and becoming a member of its elite [[Standard Evil Organization Squad]] seeking to bring about [[The End of the World As We Know It]], so naturally her hedonism consists of being a [[Jerkass]] [[Depraved Bisexual]] and [[Manipulative Bitch]] who enjoys screwing with and killing people [[For the Evulz]].
* Graendal of ''[[The Wheel of Time]]'' was formerly an extreme ascetic type who embraced hedonism as part of a [[Faith Heel Turn]] when she realized that no-one else could live up to her ridiculously high standards- in other words, she's a hedonist out of spite. The other part of her turn was joining the forces of Evil and becoming a member of its elite [[Standard Evil Organization Squad]] seeking to bring about [[The End of the World as We Know It]], so naturally her hedonism consists of being a [[Jerkass]] [[Depraved Bisexual]] and [[Manipulative Bitch]] who enjoys screwing with and killing people [[For the Evulz]].
* [[Don Quixote]]: At the first part of the novel, Don Quixote is a [[Lord Error-Prone]] who only cares about living his [[Chivalric Romance]] fantasies, [[Victimized Bystander|no matter who else pays for it]]. The second part he evolves to a [[For Happiness]] motivation.
* [[Don Quixote]]: At the first part of the novel, Don Quixote is a [[Lord Error-Prone]] who only cares about living his [[Chivalric Romance]] fantasies, [[Victimized Bystander|no matter who else pays for it]]. The second part he evolves to a [[For Happiness]] motivation.


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** Except she was obviously feeling guilty as hell. And while she clearly enjoyed being able to do what she wanted, when she wanted, what she truly desired was a life more like Buffy's and, if she couldn't have that, make Buffy become more like her to ease the jealousy.
** Except she was obviously feeling guilty as hell. And while she clearly enjoyed being able to do what she wanted, when she wanted, what she truly desired was a life more like Buffy's and, if she couldn't have that, make Buffy become more like her to ease the jealousy.
** Early Faith is a Nietzschean, not a Hedonist. Being a Slayer (she thinks) means you are [[Above Good and Evil]] and can do whatever you want. Saving x lives means you can kill any number of people less than x, since you will still be in the plus column.
** Early Faith is a Nietzschean, not a Hedonist. Being a Slayer (she thinks) means you are [[Above Good and Evil]] and can do whatever you want. Saving x lives means you can kill any number of people less than x, since you will still be in the plus column.
* The future version of Castiel in ''[[Supernatural (TV)|Supernatural]]'' episode "The End."
* The future version of Castiel in ''[[Supernatural (TV series)|Supernatural]]'' episode "The End."
** Gabriel (also known as the Trickster) appears to be this, tormenting others for his entertainment, creating women out of thin air, gorging himself on chocolate and other desserts. Then of course it's revealed that, although he does enjoy it, he actually means some of the lessons he claims to be trying to teach and seems a little miserable under his Trickster persona.
** Gabriel (also known as the Trickster) appears to be this, tormenting others for his entertainment, creating women out of thin air, gorging himself on chocolate and other desserts. Then of course it's revealed that, although he does enjoy it, he actually means some of the lessons he claims to be trying to teach and seems a little miserable under his Trickster persona.
** Then there's Balthazar (funny how all of these are angels). His reaction to the good guys derailing the Apocalypse is to grab a bunch of valuable weapons, fake his own death and start doing whatever the hell he wants on Earth ("This morning I had a menage a...what's the French for twelve?"). When Castiel catches up to him, he insists he's just following the example Cas set. "You showed me we could do anything, so I'm trying ''everything''."
** Then there's Balthazar (funny how all of these are angels). His reaction to the good guys derailing the Apocalypse is to grab a bunch of valuable weapons, fake his own death and start doing whatever the hell he wants on Earth ("This morning I had a menage a...what's the French for twelve?"). When Castiel catches up to him, he insists he's just following the example Cas set. "You showed me we could do anything, so I'm trying ''everything''."
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== Tabletop Game ==
== Tabletop Game ==
* The color Red in ''[[Magic the Gathering|Magic: The Gathering]]'' is this philosophy to its [[Tabletop Game]] conclusion. It has cards that are awesomely damaging to the target...but tends to leave the caster wide open to counterattack (when the spells don't damage the caster, too). Red is passionate and powerful, but the [[Power At a Price|cost]] of that power is that it doesn't consider the effects and often harms itself. Compare with its allied colors Black, which ''knows'' the negative side effects ''and chooses them anyway'', and Green, which is just as primal and wild but is also devoted to the arts of healing. Contrast with opposing colors Blue, which is all about careful thought, and White, which is about order and control (of one's self and others).
* The color Red in ''[[Magic: The Gathering]]'' is this philosophy to its [[Tabletop Game]] conclusion. It has cards that are awesomely damaging to the target...but tends to leave the caster wide open to counterattack (when the spells don't damage the caster, too). Red is passionate and powerful, but the [[Power At a Price|cost]] of that power is that it doesn't consider the effects and often harms itself. Compare with its allied colors Black, which ''knows'' the negative side effects ''and chooses them anyway'', and Green, which is just as primal and wild but is also devoted to the arts of healing. Contrast with opposing colors Blue, which is all about careful thought, and White, which is about order and control (of one's self and others).
** The (black) vampires on the plane of Zendikar are described as hedonistic. They are also, coincidentally, said to be the most advanced race on Zendikar.
** The (black) vampires on the plane of Zendikar are described as hedonistic. They are also, coincidentally, said to be the most advanced race on Zendikar.
** Innistrad, a [[Gothic Horror|gothic]] plane, also have vampires, though they are separated into several clans. One clan, Markov, is more hedonistic than the rest.
** Innistrad, a [[Gothic Horror|gothic]] plane, also have vampires, though they are separated into several clans. One clan, Markov, is more hedonistic than the rest.
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== Theatre ==
== Theatre ==
* Fiyero in the musical ''[[Wicked (Theatre)|Wicked]]'': "Nothing matters but knowing nothing matters... It's just life, so keep dancing through!"
* Fiyero in the musical ''[[Wicked (theatre)|Wicked]]'': "Nothing matters but knowing nothing matters... It's just life, so keep dancing through!"
** Well, at least until he goes through some massive [[Character Development]] and some of his frivolous comments and beliefs become painfully ironic.
** Well, at least until he goes through some massive [[Character Development]] and some of his frivolous comments and beliefs become painfully ironic.
* Val in ''Babes in Arms'' declares himself to be this (although whether he remains so is unclear, since his ideologies shift constantly).
* Val in ''Babes in Arms'' declares himself to be this (although whether he remains so is unclear, since his ideologies shift constantly).
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== Video Games ==
== Video Games ==
* Morinth of ''[[Mass Effect (Video Game)|Mass Effect]] 2'' is a killer afflicted with a condition that makes her kill those she has sex with, which has an addictive effect upon her. She's been spending centuries getting her kicks with either slaughter, music or drugs as well as evading {{spoiler|her mother Samara.}}
* Morinth of ''[[Mass Effect]] 2'' is a killer afflicted with a condition that makes her kill those she has sex with, which has an addictive effect upon her. She's been spending centuries getting her kicks with either slaughter, music or drugs as well as evading {{spoiler|her mother Samara.}}
* Shannon of [[God Hand]]. Her search for pleasure is never-ending and often involves [[This Is My Human|mortal men being used as her "toys".]]
* Shannon of [[God Hand]]. Her search for pleasure is never-ending and often involves [[This Is My Human|mortal men being used as her "toys".]]
* Isabela from ''[[Dragon Age II (Video Game)|Dragon Age II]]'' seems to live for three things: the thrill of adventure, alcohol, and sexual gratification (from men and women both).
* Isabela from ''[[Dragon Age II]]'' seems to live for three things: the thrill of adventure, alcohol, and sexual gratification (from men and women both).
* After only getting two or so scenes in ''[[Kingdom Hearts II (Video Game)|Kingdom Hearts II]]'', Demyx was somewhat fleshed out as this is ''[[Kingdom Hearts: 358 Days Over 2 (Video Game)|Kingdom Hearts 358 Days Over 2]]''. He's more interested in writing songs than following orders, and isn't above bribing Roxas to finish his missions for him.
* After only getting two or so scenes in ''[[Kingdom Hearts II]]'', Demyx was somewhat fleshed out as this is ''[[Kingdom Hearts: 358 Days Over 2|Kingdom Hearts 358 Days Over 2]]''. He's more interested in writing songs than following orders, and isn't above bribing Roxas to finish his missions for him.
* [[Drunken Master|Suika Ibuki]] from Touhou, who has never been seen sober for ''centuries''. Most other characters in Touhou also have various [[Mr. Vice Guy|vices]] that they indulge in. It helps that the majority of them [[Youkai|aren't human]].
* [[Drunken Master|Suika Ibuki]] from Touhou, who has never been seen sober for ''centuries''. Most other characters in Touhou also have various [[Mr. Vice Guy|vices]] that they indulge in. It helps that the majority of them [[Youkai|aren't human]].
** Special mention goes for Ms. Hinanawi Tenshi, who [[For the Evulz|wreaks havoc for the sake of getting into the emotional height]], something that her people lacks.
** Special mention goes for Ms. Hinanawi Tenshi, who [[For the Evulz|wreaks havoc for the sake of getting into the emotional height]], something that her people lacks.
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** Your tax dollars at work!
** Your tax dollars at work!
* Beezy on ''[[Jimmy Two-Shoes]]'' lives his life basically eating, sleeping, hanging out with Jimmy and dating [[Crazy Awesome|Saffi]]. He seems to put his happiness first beyond anything. He's still one of the few decent people on the show.
* Beezy on ''[[Jimmy Two-Shoes]]'' lives his life basically eating, sleeping, hanging out with Jimmy and dating [[Crazy Awesome|Saffi]]. He seems to put his happiness first beyond anything. He's still one of the few decent people on the show.
* General Iroh from ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender (Animation)|Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'' pretended to be very much the hedonist, much to the chagrin of his naive nephew who refused to see that the evil empire didn't deserve their loyalty. For Iroh, life's little pleasures are more important than doing his duty... but only when his duty is actually evil, destructive or plain unworthy. Whenever he has a ''worthy'' cause to fight for, [[Jerk With a Heart of Gold|he's dedicated and self-sacrificing if needed]].
* General Iroh from ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'' pretended to be very much the hedonist, much to the chagrin of his naive nephew who refused to see that the evil empire didn't deserve their loyalty. For Iroh, life's little pleasures are more important than doing his duty... but only when his duty is actually evil, destructive or plain unworthy. Whenever he has a ''worthy'' cause to fight for, [[Jerk with a Heart of Gold|he's dedicated and self-sacrificing if needed]].
* The [[Time Squad|Larry 3000]] seems to split being [[The Spock]] and [[The Hedonist]] about 50/50. He gives a good show of being uptight and prissy, and the casual viewer might mistake him for being the [[Only Sane Man]] to Tuddrussel's [[Boisterous Bruiser]], but truthfully the a nice chunk of the mission hang-ups happen as a result of him getting distracted and siding with whomever is messing up history if they promise more fun than fixing it would.
* The [[Time Squad|Larry 3000]] seems to split being [[The Spock]] and [[The Hedonist]] about 50/50. He gives a good show of being uptight and prissy, and the casual viewer might mistake him for being the [[Only Sane Man]] to Tuddrussel's [[Boisterous Bruiser]], but truthfully the a nice chunk of the mission hang-ups happen as a result of him getting distracted and siding with whomever is messing up history if they promise more fun than fixing it would.