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** Water Temple's [[That One Level]] status has been lessened thanks to some minor tweaks!<ref>First, the Iron Boots were moved to the item screen, like in wind waker, making puzzles involving putting them on and off a lot less tedious. They also added glowing symbols on the walls leading to the water level switches.</ref>
** Water Temple's [[That One Level]] status has been lessened thanks to some minor tweaks!<ref>First, the Iron Boots were moved to the item screen, like in wind waker, making puzzles involving putting them on and off a lot less tedious. They also added glowing symbols on the walls leading to the water level switches.</ref>
* [[Angst What Angst]]:
* [[Angst What Angst]]:
** Link. ''[[Bad Future|Mother]] [[Oblivious Adoption|of]] [[Nice Job Breaking It Hero|God.]]''
** Link. ''[[Bad Future|Mother]] [[Oblivious Adoption|of]] [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|God.]]''
** [[Heroic Mime|Not that he would be able to convey it that well]].
** [[Heroic Mime|Not that he would be able to convey it that well]].
** He gets a pretty good shock out of seeing Ganondorf's fortress for the first time. And Ruto's enagement.
** He gets a pretty good shock out of seeing Ganondorf's fortress for the first time. And Ruto's enagement.
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** The boss battles were also made to wow players, what with each having grandiose set-pieces and creature designs as well as clever strategies. The [[Final Boss]] ''still'' regularly pops up on [[Top Ten List|Top Ten Lists]] for "Greatest Boss Battles of All Time" alongside [[Metroid|Mother Brain]] and [[Final Fantasy VII|Sephiroth]].
** The boss battles were also made to wow players, what with each having grandiose set-pieces and creature designs as well as clever strategies. The [[Final Boss]] ''still'' regularly pops up on [[Top Ten List|Top Ten Lists]] for "Greatest Boss Battles of All Time" alongside [[Metroid|Mother Brain]] and [[Final Fantasy VII|Sephiroth]].
* [[Hype Aversion]] and [[Hype Backlash]]: Due to the countless praises heaped upon this game, it's rather to be expected.
* [[Hype Aversion]] and [[Hype Backlash]]: Due to the countless praises heaped upon this game, it's rather to be expected.
* [[Iron Woobie]]: Link, though it's debatable. On the one hand, he [[Parental Abandonment|goes]] [[The End of the World As We Know It|through]] [[Everybodys Dead Dave|enough]] [[Mentor Occupational Hazard|crap]] [[You Can't Go Home Again|to]] [[It Sucks to Be The Chosen One|potentially]] [[Bittersweet Ending|rival]] [[Neon Genesis Evangelion|Shinji Ikari]] in terms of issues. On the other hand, being the [[Audience Surrogate|Player Surrogate]] and a [[Heroic Mime]], he [[Angst What Angst|doesn't seem too concerned with this.]]
* [[Iron Woobie]]: Link, though it's debatable. On the one hand, he [[Parental Abandonment|goes]] [[The End of the World As We Know It|through]] [[Everybody's Dead, Dave|enough]] [[Mentor Occupational Hazard|crap]] [[You Can't Go Home Again|to]] [[It Sucks to Be The Chosen One|potentially]] [[Bittersweet Ending|rival]] [[Neon Genesis Evangelion|Shinji Ikari]] in terms of issues. On the other hand, being the [[Audience Surrogate|Player Surrogate]] and a [[Heroic Mime]], he [[Angst What Angst|doesn't seem too concerned with this.]]
* [[Its the Same Now It Sucks]]: Those who were expecting more changes and additions to the main game, just like [[Nintendo]] did with ''[[Super Mario 64]] DS'' and Game Freak with ''[[Pokémon Gold and Silver (Video Game)|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver]]'', will be a bit disappointed with the [[Nintendo 3DS]] remake.
* [[It's the Same, Now It Sucks]]: Those who were expecting more changes and additions to the main game, just like [[Nintendo]] did with ''[[Super Mario 64]] DS'' and Game Freak with ''[[Pokémon Gold and Silver (Video Game)|Pokémon HeartGold and SoulSilver]]'', will be a bit disappointed with the [[Nintendo 3DS]] remake.
* [[It Was His Sled]]: Sheik is Zelda.
* [[It Was His Sled]]: Sheik is Zelda.
* [[Launcher of a Thousand Ships]]: [[Ship to Ship Combat]] involving this Link is very popular considering the choices.
* [[Launcher of a Thousand Ships]]: [[Ship to Ship Combat]] involving this Link is very popular considering the choices.
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* [[Padding]]: Hyrule Field has become notorious to some players for just how long it takes to get anywhere across it. There's a reason you can get a horse as Adult Link, after all...
* [[Padding]]: Hyrule Field has become notorious to some players for just how long it takes to get anywhere across it. There's a reason you can get a horse as Adult Link, after all...
* [[Rated M for Manly]]: The fight with King Dodongo, when Link, just 11 years old, blasts a dinosaur 50 times his size into a giant pit of lava with bombs and a sword!
* [[Rated M for Manly]]: The fight with King Dodongo, when Link, just 11 years old, blasts a dinosaur 50 times his size into a giant pit of lava with bombs and a sword!
* [[Ron the Death Eater]]: Navi. While she can be annoying, given her high-pitched voice and the absence of any scripting that makes sure her suggestions are in line with any plot threads you may have triggered {{spoiler|(i.e. If you complete the ice cavern as part of obtaining the [[Infinity Plus One Sword|Biggoron's Sword]] [[Game Breaker|before the Forest Temple]], Link will already know Zora's Domain is frozen over and that the monster maintaining the cursed ice is in the Water Temple, but Navi will just wonder about what's going on in the forest, followed by concern about the cloud over Death Mountain, until you've finished the Forest and Fire Temples. And even then, she doesn't suggest going to the Water Temple to break the curse, [[Late to The Punchline|but instead point out the icy wind blowing down from Zora's River.]]) }}, she's never really anything more than a temporary nuisance to players who know what they're doing. Going by her reputation, however, you'd think she repeatedly halted the game to remind you that bombs explode and you can swing your sword by pressing B.
* [[Ron the Death Eater]]: Navi. While she can be annoying, given her high-pitched voice and the absence of any scripting that makes sure her suggestions are in line with any plot threads you may have triggered {{spoiler|(i.e. If you complete the ice cavern as part of obtaining the [[Infinity+1 Sword|Biggoron's Sword]] [[Game Breaker|before the Forest Temple]], Link will already know Zora's Domain is frozen over and that the monster maintaining the cursed ice is in the Water Temple, but Navi will just wonder about what's going on in the forest, followed by concern about the cloud over Death Mountain, until you've finished the Forest and Fire Temples. And even then, she doesn't suggest going to the Water Temple to break the curse, [[Late to The Punchline|but instead point out the icy wind blowing down from Zora's River.]]) }}, she's never really anything more than a temporary nuisance to players who know what they're doing. Going by her reputation, however, you'd think she repeatedly halted the game to remind you that bombs explode and you can swing your sword by pressing B.
** Though she ''does'' give several bits of long exposition about Z-Targeting till about the middle of the game, and there's no way to skip those.
** Though she ''does'' give several bits of long exposition about Z-Targeting till about the middle of the game, and there's no way to skip those.
* [[The Scrappy]]:
* [[The Scrappy]]:
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** The Water Temple, with its confusing layout, water level controls, and long stretches forcing you to go about underwater, where you have to repeatedly pause the game and fiddle with the menu system in order to equip and un-equip the Iron Boots needed to keep from floating to the surface and can only fight using the hookshot. It's so infamous that Eiji Aonuma '''apologized''' for it 11 years later. (Even though he wasn't even the one in charge of the series yet, though he first got involved with Zelda here), as did Miyamoto. Well, he actually apologized for how long it took to change boots, but that is seen as one of the worst parts of it.
** The Water Temple, with its confusing layout, water level controls, and long stretches forcing you to go about underwater, where you have to repeatedly pause the game and fiddle with the menu system in order to equip and un-equip the Iron Boots needed to keep from floating to the surface and can only fight using the hookshot. It's so infamous that Eiji Aonuma '''apologized''' for it 11 years later. (Even though he wasn't even the one in charge of the series yet, though he first got involved with Zelda here), as did Miyamoto. Well, he actually apologized for how long it took to change boots, but that is seen as one of the worst parts of it.
** Also notable: The Master Quest version of other dungeons were rearranged to make them more difficult for seasoned players. The Master Quest version of the Water Temple, though, was considerably ''easier'' than in the original. The creators have also fixed the Water Temple in the 3DS remake by means of two main changes: making the Iron Boots an item button item (an innovation from later Zelda games), and putting squiggly lines on the walls to lead players to the water-level changing rooms.
** Also notable: The Master Quest version of other dungeons were rearranged to make them more difficult for seasoned players. The Master Quest version of the Water Temple, though, was considerably ''easier'' than in the original. The creators have also fixed the Water Temple in the 3DS remake by means of two main changes: making the Iron Boots an item button item (an innovation from later Zelda games), and putting squiggly lines on the walls to lead players to the water-level changing rooms.
* [[They Changed It Now It Sucks]]: Some fans prefer the N64 version of the fight with Ganon superior to the fight in the remake, due to the fact in the original version Ganon appeared in shadows save for his [[Glowing Eyes of Doom]], while in the remake he's in full view all the time.
* [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]]: Some fans prefer the N64 version of the fight with Ganon superior to the fight in the remake, due to the fact in the original version Ganon appeared in shadows save for his [[Glowing Eyes of Doom]], while in the remake he's in full view all the time.
* [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character]]: After {{spoiler|Sheik [[It Was His Sled|is revealed to have been Zelda all along]]}}, [[Badass Princess|there was a lot of potential]], considering all the years {{spoiler|[[Took a Level In Badass|Zelda had to spend as a Sheikah warrior]]}}. Then [[Chickification]] and [[Badass Decay]] kicked in when Ganondorf kidnapped her, sending all those seven years to waste. Even shooting a beam at Ganon near the end of the final battle wasn't enough to undo it for the Princess Zelda fans.
* [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character]]: After {{spoiler|Sheik [[It Was His Sled|is revealed to have been Zelda all along]]}}, [[Badass Princess|there was a lot of potential]], considering all the years {{spoiler|[[Took a Level In Badass|Zelda had to spend as a Sheikah warrior]]}}. Then [[Chickification]] and [[Badass Decay]] kicked in when Ganondorf kidnapped her, sending all those seven years to waste. Even shooting a beam at Ganon near the end of the final battle wasn't enough to undo it for the Princess Zelda fans.
* [[Tough Act to Follow]]: Especially when said act is widely considered to be the greatest video game of all time.
* [[Tough Act to Follow]]: Especially when said act is widely considered to be the greatest video game of all time.
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* [[Uncanny Valley]]: Ganondorf. There's something about a humanoid with greenish skin that's rather off-putting.
* [[Uncanny Valley]]: Ganondorf. There's something about a humanoid with greenish skin that's rather off-putting.
* [[Vindicated By History]]: When the games were released Navi was [[The Scrappy|wildly hated by most fans]]. Nowadays she's seen as more tolerable, and a lot of people think she doesn't deserve the incredible amounts of flak she used to get. It helps that she was the originator of [[Camera Lock On|one of the most important additions to not only the series, but to 3D gaming in general]].
* [[Vindicated By History]]: When the games were released Navi was [[The Scrappy|wildly hated by most fans]]. Nowadays she's seen as more tolerable, and a lot of people think she doesn't deserve the incredible amounts of flak she used to get. It helps that she was the originator of [[Camera Lock On|one of the most important additions to not only the series, but to 3D gaming in general]].
* [[What Do You Mean Its for Kids]]: Mass graves, death, war, hideous monsters, a giant monster collapsing into a heap of pulsating flesh before your very eyes, [[Arson Murder and Jaywalking|green blood]] (and a little red blood). You know, for kids!
* [[What Do You Mean It's for Kids?]]: Mass graves, death, war, hideous monsters, a giant monster collapsing into a heap of pulsating flesh before your very eyes, [[Arson, Murder, and Jaywalking|green blood]] (and a little red blood). You know, for kids!
* [[Woobie Species]]:
* [[Woobie Species]]:
** The Gorons. A race of peaceful, welcoming mountain dwellers, who in the future are reduced to imprisoned, quivering wrecks after Ganondorf tries to feed them all to Volvagia to set an example for everyone else.
** The Gorons. A race of peaceful, welcoming mountain dwellers, who in the future are reduced to imprisoned, quivering wrecks after Ganondorf tries to feed them all to Volvagia to set an example for everyone else.
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