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* In ''[[Earthbound]]'', {{spoiler|the protagonist's 12-year-old neighbor is controlling the "cosmic destroyer," in a case of [[Enfante Terrible]]. In [[Mother 3|the ]][[No Export for You|Japanese-only ]][[Mother 3|sequel ]], he is arguably a [[Magnificent Bastard]], as well}}.
* In ''[[Earthbound]]'', {{spoiler|the protagonist's 12-year-old neighbor is controlling the "cosmic destroyer," in a case of [[Enfante Terrible]]. In [[Mother 3|the ]][[No Export for You|Japanese-only ]][[Mother 3|sequel ]], he is arguably a [[Magnificent Bastard]], as well}}.
* The final boss (not counting the [[Bonus Dungeon]]) in ''[[Dark Cloud]] 2'' is not Emperor Griffon, but the dark energy inside him made manifest: {{spoiler|Dark Element}}.
* The final boss (not counting the [[Bonus Dungeon]]) in ''[[Dark Cloud]] 2'' is not Emperor Griffon, but the dark energy inside him made manifest: {{spoiler|Dark Element}}.
* Grodus, the main bad guy in ''[[Paper Mario the Thousand Year Door]]'', tries to rule the world by {{spoiler|reviving the Shadow Queen, who is an evil spirit sealed away for 1000 years. When Grodus summons her, she turns on him and defeats him with one measly attack before turning her attention to Mario. It turns out that [[Goldfish Poop Gang]] were her lackeys and manipulating the events... or rather the gang's leader was, since of the other two one is a moron and the other pulls a [[Heel Face Turn]]. You'd wonder why the latter never mentions this to her new friends, but then again it really didn't make much difference to the party who, exactly, was trying to rule the world.}}
* Grodus, the main bad guy in ''[[Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door]]'', tries to rule the world by {{spoiler|reviving the Shadow Queen, who is an evil spirit sealed away for 1000 years. When Grodus summons her, she turns on him and defeats him with one measly attack before turning her attention to Mario. It turns out that [[Goldfish Poop Gang]] were her lackeys and manipulating the events... or rather the gang's leader was, since of the other two one is a moron and the other pulls a [[Heel Face Turn]]. You'd wonder why the latter never mentions this to her new friends, but then again it really didn't make much difference to the party who, exactly, was trying to rule the world.}}
** Let's not forget {{spoiler|Dimentio}} from the third game.
** Let's not forget {{spoiler|Dimentio}} from the third game.
* ''[[Guild Wars]] Nightfall'' reveals that the banished god Abaddon was behind most of the events of the ''Prophecies'' and ''Factions'' campaigns.
* ''[[Guild Wars]] Nightfall'' reveals that the banished god Abaddon was behind most of the events of the ''Prophecies'' and ''Factions'' campaigns.
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** The same game has a straighter example with {{spoiler|Shadow being [[The Man Behind the Man]] for Eggman}}.
** The same game has a straighter example with {{spoiler|Shadow being [[The Man Behind the Man]] for Eggman}}.
** {{spoiler|Subverted}} in ''[[Sonic Generations]]''. You fight Dr. Eggman twice in the game, both times end up with {{spoiler|him getting kidnapped by the Time Eater}}. Then, when you get to the Final Boss, you expect to fight the aforementioned abductor. However, it is actually revealed that {{spoiler|Eggman was behind the Time Eater after all. You proceed to become Super Sonics and smash his latest creation}}.
** {{spoiler|Subverted}} in ''[[Sonic Generations]]''. You fight Dr. Eggman twice in the game, both times end up with {{spoiler|him getting kidnapped by the Time Eater}}. Then, when you get to the Final Boss, you expect to fight the aforementioned abductor. However, it is actually revealed that {{spoiler|Eggman was behind the Time Eater after all. You proceed to become Super Sonics and smash his latest creation}}.
* ''[[Guardians Crusade|Guardian's Crusade]]'' has multiple fakeouts that all hit at once, such as who the prophesied Hero (you're just babysitting), what Baby is as well as who the real villain is. But don't mistake the fake villain for a silly plot twist: before the reveals the [[Disc One Final Boss]] had set up cults in every city of the world, which are now launching an all-out assault and doing more side-quest related damage than the demon frolicking in the middle of the ocean is even bothering to do.
* ''[[Guardian's Crusade]]'' has multiple fakeouts that all hit at once, such as who the prophesied Hero (you're just babysitting), what Baby is as well as who the real villain is. But don't mistake the fake villain for a silly plot twist: before the reveals the [[Disc One Final Boss]] had set up cults in every city of the world, which are now launching an all-out assault and doing more side-quest related damage than the demon frolicking in the middle of the ocean is even bothering to do.
* {{spoiler|Hector}}, at first, seems to only be the [[Big Bad]] of the [[Dept Heaven]] game [[Riviera the Promised Land]], but supplemental materiel reveals that {{spoiler|he}} had a hand in the ''entire series''. {{spoiler|He's the one who had Nessiah tortured and exiled, causing his madness and subsequently leading directly to the events of [[Yggdra Union]], ''and'' he's the one who manipulated the events leading to Marietta's fall from grace in ''[[Knights in The Nightmare]]''.}}
* {{spoiler|Hector}}, at first, seems to only be the [[Big Bad]] of the [[Dept Heaven]] game [[Riviera: The Promised Land]], but supplemental materiel reveals that {{spoiler|he}} had a hand in the ''entire series''. {{spoiler|He's the one who had Nessiah tortured and exiled, causing his madness and subsequently leading directly to the events of [[Yggdra Union]], ''and'' he's the one who manipulated the events leading to Marietta's fall from grace in ''[[Knights in The Nightmare]]''.}}
* ''[[Baldur's Gate]]'': So you came back [[Where It All Began]] and killed the leaders of the evil organisation that was pushing for the threat of war to gain money and power and was behind all the troubles in the Sword Coast? That might sound like it was the end, but in the game, you'll probably not think that. Sure enough, it turns out they were only pawns for Sarevok, their leader's adopted son, whose motives are more of the "seas of blood" and "[[A God Am I]]" sort. And so were you, if you actually did kill them; if not, he'll just frame you for it.
* ''[[Baldur's Gate]]'': So you came back [[Where It All Began]] and killed the leaders of the evil organisation that was pushing for the threat of war to gain money and power and was behind all the troubles in the Sword Coast? That might sound like it was the end, but in the game, you'll probably not think that. Sure enough, it turns out they were only pawns for Sarevok, their leader's adopted son, whose motives are more of the "seas of blood" and "[[A God Am I]]" sort. And so were you, if you actually did kill them; if not, he'll just frame you for it.
** The Iron Throne in turn were the men behind Davaeorn, who was the man behind the Chill and Black Talon bandits, who were the men behind Mulahey and the kobolds in Nashkel. Oi.
** The Iron Throne in turn were the men behind Davaeorn, who was the man behind the Chill and Black Talon bandits, who were the men behind Mulahey and the kobolds in Nashkel. Oi.
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* {{spoiler|Julius,}} from ''[[Final Fantasy Adventure]]'' / ''[[Sword of Mana]]''.
* {{spoiler|Julius,}} from ''[[Final Fantasy Adventure]]'' / ''[[Sword of Mana]]''.
* In ''[[Dark Souls]]'', {{spoiler|Gwyndolin}} is the one secretly behind Gwynevere, {{spoiler|withe the Gwynevere you face actually being an illusion. Gwyndolin is using her to manipulate the Undead into linking the fire, so then he can ruling through her by proxy.}}
* In ''[[Dark Souls]]'', {{spoiler|Gwyndolin}} is the one secretly behind Gwynevere, {{spoiler|withe the Gwynevere you face actually being an illusion. Gwyndolin is using her to manipulate the Undead into linking the fire, so then he can ruling through her by proxy.}}
* In ''[[The Elder Scrolls IV Oblivion]]'', one Imperial-aligned character mentions in passing that [[Big Bad|Mehrunes Dagon]], the [[Our Demons Are Different|Daedric Prince]] of Destruction and Change, was involved in Jagar Tharn's attempt to overthrow Emperor Uriel VII in ''[[The Elder Scrolls Arena]]''.
* In ''[[The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion]]'', one Imperial-aligned character mentions in passing that [[Big Bad|Mehrunes Dagon]], the [[Our Demons Are Different|Daedric Prince]] of Destruction and Change, was involved in Jagar Tharn's attempt to overthrow Emperor Uriel VII in ''[[The Elder Scrolls: Arena]]''.




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