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* [[The Muppet Show (TV)/YMMV|The Muppet Show]]
* [[The Muppet Show/YMMV|The Muppet Show]]
* [[Muppet Babies (Animation)/YMMV|Muppet Babies]]
* [[Muppet Babies/YMMV|Muppet Babies]]
* [[A Muppet Family Christmas/YMMV|A Muppet Family Christmas]]
* [[A Muppet Family Christmas/YMMV|A Muppet Family Christmas]]
* [[Muppet Vision 3D/YMMV|Muppet Vision 3D]]
* [[Muppet*Vision 3D/YMMV|Muppet Vision 3D]]
* [[The Muppet Christmas Carol/YMMV|The Muppet Christmas Carol]]
* [[The Muppet Christmas Carol/YMMV|The Muppet Christmas Carol]]
* [[Muppet Treasure Island/YMMV|Muppet Treasure Island]]
* [[Muppet Treasure Island/YMMV|Muppet Treasure Island]]
* [[Muppets From Space/YMMV|Muppets From Space]]
* [[Muppets from Space/YMMV|Muppets From Space]]
* [[It's a Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie/YMMV|Its a Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie]]
* [[It's a Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie/YMMV|Its a Very Merry Muppet Christmas Movie]]
* [[The Muppets Wizard of Oz/YMMV|The Muppets Wizard of Oz]]
* [[The Muppets Wizard of Oz/YMMV|The Muppets Wizard of Oz]]
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* [[The Muppet Show Comic Book/YMMV|The Muppet Show Comic Book]]
* [[The Muppet Show Comic Book/YMMV|The Muppet Show Comic Book]]
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=== YMMVs for the film ''[[The Muppets (Film)|The Muppets]]'': ===
=== YMMVs for the film ''[[The Muppets (film)|The Muppets]]'': ===
* [[Acceptable Targets]]: During the [[Putting the Band Back Together]] montage, Sam the Eagle is an anchor for his own news segment "Everything Stinks", and on the bottom scrolling bar is a list of everything in the world that stinks, such as the French, and the ''[[Mind Screw|non-French]]''.
* [[Acceptable Targets]]: During the [[Putting the Band Back Together]] montage, Sam the Eagle is an anchor for his own news segment "Everything Stinks", and on the bottom scrolling bar is a list of everything in the world that stinks, such as the French, and the ''[[Mind Screw|non-French]]''.
** Sam's straitlaced behavior and appeal to patriotism was always a mild satire of conservatives -- he even had to be reminded in ''[[The Muppet Christmas Carol]]'' that he was British, not American. If conservatives have any issue with him, it's probably down to him being humorless.
** Sam's straitlaced behavior and appeal to patriotism was always a mild satire of conservatives -- he even had to be reminded in ''[[The Muppet Christmas Carol]]'' that he was British, not American. If conservatives have any issue with him, it's probably down to him being humorless.
** The Muppets also figure it's okay to kidnap Jack Black to host the show, because "a celebrity is not a people". Although, [[Cloudcuckoolander|Lew Zealand]] says this, so the thought may not have been shared by all. Kermit was openly against it.
** The Muppets also figure it's okay to kidnap Jack Black to host the show, because "a celebrity is not a people". Although, [[Cloudcuckoolander|Lew Zealand]] says this, so the thought may not have been shared by all. Kermit was openly against it.
* [[Accidental Innuendo]]: The song "Me Party" could be taken to be about [[A Date With Rosie Palms]].
* [[Accidental Innuendo]]: The song "Me Party" could be taken to be about [[A Date with Rosie Palms]].
{{quote| No one’s gonna stop this girl from having fun<br />
{{quote| No one’s gonna stop this girl from having fun<br />
I throw my hands up high and have a party for one<br />
I throw my hands up high and have a party for one<br />
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** Rowlf is more prominent in the trailers than he's been in any other Muppet production since [[Jim Henson]]'s death. He even gets his own ''[[Twilight]]''-parody poster.
** Rowlf is more prominent in the trailers than he's been in any other Muppet production since [[Jim Henson]]'s death. He even gets his own ''[[Twilight]]''-parody poster.
** Scooter, Rowlf, Sweetums, and especially Uncle Deadly get more screen time in the film proper than they ever had in years now that the studio found suitable replacements for Richard Hunt and Jerry Nelson.
** Scooter, Rowlf, Sweetums, and especially Uncle Deadly get more screen time in the film proper than they ever had in years now that the studio found suitable replacements for Richard Hunt and Jerry Nelson.
** Gonzo ''will not'' be [[Muppets From Space|from space]], or at least, the story will never focus on that.
** Gonzo ''will not'' be [[Muppets from Space|from space]], or at least, the story will never focus on that.
** Several old Muppets making a return, including a few obscure ones.
** Several old Muppets making a return, including a few obscure ones.
** [[Human-Focused Adaptation|The humans will]] [[Subverted Trope|not be the central characters,]] and it will mostly focus on the Muppets themselves (though the trailers may show otherwise).
** [[Human-Focused Adaptation|The humans will]] [[Subverted Trope|not be the central characters,]] and it will mostly focus on the Muppets themselves (though the trailers may show otherwise).
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** "Gary, I like you, but you have to decide: Are you a man, or a Muppet?"
** "Gary, I like you, but you have to decide: Are you a man, or a Muppet?"
* [[Nightmare Fuel]]: Bunsen and Beaker were working on the [[wikipedia:Large Hadron Collider|Large Hadron Collider]].
* [[Nightmare Fuel]]: Bunsen and Beaker were working on the [[wikipedia:Large Hadron Collider|Large Hadron Collider]].
* [[Spoiled By the Format]]: Lampshaded about half an hour in.
* [[Spoiled by the Format]]: Lampshaded about half an hour in.
{{quote| '''Mary:''' This is going to be a really short movie.}}
{{quote| '''Mary:''' This is going to be a really short movie.}}
* [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad]]: Walter gets more focus than any other character, even Kermit (it's debatable whether Gary and Mary get more focus than the main Muppets as well). Thankfully, the guy turned out to be [[Ensemble Darkhorse|an immensely popular and likeable character]], preventing him from becoming the [[Creator's Pet]] he could have easily become.
* [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad]]: Walter gets more focus than any other character, even Kermit (it's debatable whether Gary and Mary get more focus than the main Muppets as well). Thankfully, the guy turned out to be [[Ensemble Darkhorse|an immensely popular and likeable character]], preventing him from becoming the [[Creator's Pet]] he could have easily become.
* [[Tear Jerker]]: [[The Muppets (Franchise)/Tear Jerker|There are a few moments]].
* [[Tear Jerker]]: [[The Muppets/Tear Jerker|There are a few moments]].
* [[What Do You Mean It's Not Political?]]: Many people on [[Fox News|more conservative news shows]] were upset that the villain was a CEO who wanted to drill for oil, saying that the Muppets were promoting class warfare for children. They [[Did Not Do the Research]], since it later becomes clear that Tex Richman is evil not because he is a CEO, rich, or wants oil, but ''because he is unable to laugh'' and laughter, aka the third greatest gift ever, is necessary for happiness. ...though, anything concerning his back story was cut, which does not help any!
* [[What Do You Mean It's Not Political?]]: Many people on [[Fox News|more conservative news shows]] were upset that the villain was a CEO who wanted to drill for oil, saying that the Muppets were promoting class warfare for children. They [[Did Not Do the Research]], since it later becomes clear that Tex Richman is evil not because he is a CEO, rich, or wants oil, but ''because he is unable to laugh'' and laughter, aka the third greatest gift ever, is necessary for happiness. ...though, anything concerning his back story was cut, which does not help any!
** As well as the fact that any five-year-old would know he's a caricature just by the name and [[Large Ham]] tendencies.
** As well as the fact that any five-year-old would know he's a caricature just by the name and [[Large Ham]] tendencies.
** To say nothing of the fact that Kermit is himself a CEO of The Muppets as an incorporated entity -- and while not stinking rich, was still well off enough to be living in a swanky house and keeping it in good repair. So it was one corp guy against another corp ... er, frog.
** To say nothing of the fact that Kermit is himself a CEO of The Muppets as an incorporated entity -- and while not stinking rich, was still well off enough to be living in a swanky house and keeping it in good repair. So it was one corp guy against another corp ... er, frog.
*** In fact, paying more attention reveals that Gonzo was rich in the movie, but his disruptive behavior prevented him from buying out the theater -- he had the money, and blew it up in his enthusiasm to return. Far from class warfare, the movie paints Gonzo as caring about the Muppets nearly as much as he cared about Camilla's feelings. Similarly, Piggy's portrayed as well-off, but never flaunts this beyond the vanity that's been part of the character since the original show.
*** In fact, paying more attention reveals that Gonzo was rich in the movie, but his disruptive behavior prevented him from buying out the theater -- he had the money, and blew it up in his enthusiasm to return. Far from class warfare, the movie paints Gonzo as caring about the Muppets nearly as much as he cared about Camilla's feelings. Similarly, Piggy's portrayed as well-off, but never flaunts this beyond the vanity that's been part of the character since the original show.
* [[Win Back the Crowd]]: Both in-universe ''and'' in real life. It helps that the [[Muppets From Space|last film before this one]] came out over a decade before this one.
* [[Win Back the Crowd]]: Both in-universe ''and'' in real life. It helps that the [[Muppets from Space|last film before this one]] came out over a decade before this one.
* [[The Woobie]]: Walter and Kermit, big time.
* [[The Woobie]]: Walter and Kermit, big time.
* [[You Bastard]]: It's pretty hard not to feel guilty while watching this movie if your interest in the Muppets has waned since your childhood.
* [[You Bastard]]: It's pretty hard not to feel guilty while watching this movie if your interest in the Muppets has waned since your childhood.