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These things about ''[[{{TOPLEVELPAGE}}]]'' are subjective - not everyone will agree with all of them.
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* [[Actor Shipping]]: Lindsay/Nella is quite popular, mostly for people who want unabashedly fluffy [[Ho Yay|Les Yay]] instead of abuse and fucked-upness.
** Even though he's engaged and she's dating Todd, Lindsay/Doug is also popular. The reason is basically the same - fluff and cuteness. And both of these are just for fun.
* [[Alternative Character Interpretation]]: Is the Chick a hypocritical [[Know-Nothing Know-It-All]] who abuses people constantly to make herself feel better and is just as messed up as the Critic, or an intelligent, calm [[Closer to Earth]] feminist? There are enough people who believe either choice.
* [[Arc Fatigue]]: To some fans (that being why it's on this page) "The Dark Nella Saga" just kept going and going and going... (Well, it ''is'' a [[Fridge Brilliance|saga]].) But the problem was probably less the length of the arc itself - seven episodes, probably edging on three hours, all told - and more how an arc that seemed like it would be played out over a few weeks took two and a half months to release.
* [[Awesome Music (Sugar Wiki)|Awesome Music]]:
** The "[[Elton John (Music)|Candle in the Wind]]" parody Lindsay sang after Nella's "death."
** Nella's road trip-style summary of ''[[Showgirls]]''.
** Lindsay leading her friends in a performance of ''[[Newsies]]''' "Seize the Day."
** Lindsay, [[Jew Wario]], [[Obscurus Lupa]], Elisa, Nella, [[The Nostalgia Critic (Web Video)|Critic]], [[Atop the Fourth Wall (Web Video)|Linkara]], [[Todd in The Shadows (Web Video)|Todd in Thethe Shadows]], [[Paw Dugan]], [[Brows Held High|Oancitizen]] and [[Phelous]] singing "One Day More" is genuinely chilling.
** Elisa, [[Pushing Up Roses]], [[Marz Gurl]], [[Obscurus Lupa]], and the Chick all show that they have lovely voices in their rendition of "[[The Little Mermaid (Disney)|Part of Your World]]."
** Despite her love for [[Soundtrack Dissonance]], she's also pretty good for choosing song lyrics that go well with the situation. "How can he tell her he loves her [-] he would give his heart gladly" when Critic [[Cannot Spit It Out]], "baby come back, you can blame it all on me" when they've both left, Nella (who wants to be left how she is) is shut up by the Makeover Fairy when she tries to sing the start of Mein Herr from ''[[Cabaret]]'' and the end of ''[[The Lorax (Filmfilm)|The Lorax]]'' has a self-loathing tribute to alcohol.
* [[Base Breaker]]: See [[Ensemble Darkhorse]] below. Check the comments for many videos Nella appears in and you'll find plenty that lament her getting screen time.
** Fans of the [[Disney Renaissance]] tend to [[Understatement|hate]] her.
* [[BigNon LippedSequitur Alligator MomentScene]]: Between a long drought of videos, Lindsay posted one in the Summer of 2010... aboard the New York City V subway train with a rowdy crowd of college students celebrating its last trip before MTA killed that train line! Most viewers were perplexed, to say the least. It didn't help that, yes, she never spoke of it again.
** Her [[Driven to Madness]] [[Heroic BSOD]] over how pathetic reviewing makes her was never brought up again.
* [[Broken Base]]: Usually between those who prefer the style of her newer reviews - i.e. the ones featuring the supporting cast and based more around analysing tropes - and those who liked the linear reviews she originally put out.
* [[Ron the Death Eater|Chick the Death Eater]]: While fangirls love her (they ''[[Even the Girls Want Her|really]]'' do), in [[Fanfic]] she tends to be less the [[Distaff Counterpart]] of the Critic and more the female version of [[Ask That Guy With the Glasses (Web Video)|Ask That Guy With theThe Glasses]].
* [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch]]: The people who think of her as a militantly feminist, unfunny hippie lovechild. The [[Politically Incorrect Hero]]-ism and the [[Black Comedy]] aren't ''that'' hard to spot.
* [[Crosses the Line Twice]]:
** Nearly all the "[[Christmas Songs]]" video qualifies. She gets roofied by Brian the Sex Predator, makes her face look like a skeleton at one point and does a pretty good imitation of [[The Joker]] when she's mocking the "Christmas Shoes" [[Glurge]]. The video that accompanies "Please, Daddy, Don't Get Drunk This Christmas" goes from disturbing to hilarious when {{spoiler|the realistic domestic abuse gives way to stop-hitting-yourself's and noogies}}. It was also her first [[Black Comedy]] video, which set the standard for the following episodes.
** The [[Creepy Uncle]] joke in her "Enchanted Christmas" review.
** [[Black Comedy Rape|Gleefully hip-thrusting]] when the ''[[Mulan (Disney)|Mulan]]'' villain says they should get a missing doll back to a little girl. And playing the bouncy "I Love Little Girls" over his segment in the "Top Ten Nostalgic Villains" list.
** [[Noah Antwiler|Spoony]] said in his commentary that "[[Black Comedy Rape|Spooning With Spoony]]" was her creation, not his.
** Her response to the guy in ''[[Showgirls]]'' saying his girlfriend is having a baby: "Why not just shove her down the stairs and hope for the best?"
* [[Discredited Meme]]: In her Villainesses countdown, the [[One Hundred and One101 Dalmatians (Disney)|One Hundred and One Dalmatians]] have to stare at her sadly before she gives in and yells her "PUPPIES!" catchphrase. The [[Running Gag]] was put to death after that.
* [[Dude, Not Funny]]: In her second "Thanks For The Feedback" video, she made a music video featuring [[Black Comedy Rape|a rap song about rape]]. The video was almost universally reviled as being in poor taste, and has since been taken down. Although not for that reason; [[Word of God]] says that she wasn't happy with the edit and didn't want it to be put up anyway.
** Yes, okay, [[Interquel|Interquels]]s are pretty bad... but was it really necessary to compare the ''Enchanted Christmas'' movie to multiple holocausts?
** While the backlash was much bigger when the Critic made his joke, her comment about "autistic temper tantrums" got people rather angry.
** While the majority loved both episodes for [[Refuge in Audacity]], there was a certain [[Yaoi Fangirl|section]] of the fanbase that ''hated'' her for coming up with the idea of the [[Het Is Ew|first]] "Spooning With Spoony".
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** P-Cash was pretty much the only thing in the infamous "Rape Rap" video that got a consistently positive reaction.
** The [[Sex Bot]] went away for a long time, but was loved and now is in a lot more episodes.
** If the Nella & Elisa double-act keeps getting bigger, they could be a [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad]].
** Elisa has actually gotten her own show: Maven of the Eventide. She's come a long way from the Makeover Fairy.
* [[Evil Is Sexy]]: The Chick's [[Slasher Smile]] when she's being evil is both adorable and utterly terrifying.
** It seems to be unanimous amongst fangirls and fanboys alike; Dark Nella is ''hot''.
** We also have Dr. Tease, The Makeover Fairy and even Brian The Sexual Predator has his fans when he wears a leather jacket.
* [[Fan Dumb]]: Her fans can be extremely clingy at times. On the forums, the personal nature of her FAQ thread drove her away and it took a while before they got that she wasn't coming back to answer any more questions.
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*** This is a genuine comment on her Facebook page: "Compared to Lindsay's brand of humor, Doug is like a monkey throwing feces at a sad zoo-going child eating a tarnished ice cream cone." Uh, a touch unfair, don't you think?
** Even though she made fun of this attitude ''herself'' in ''[[Kickassia]]'', they also seem to think that she has the very worst [[Hate Dumb]] and she only gets criticized because she's female. While the shit-stirring trolls ''do'' go for sexism with her, everyone on TGWTG gets threats and creepiness and other nasty things. It just shows that they think she's a woman to be protected first and a person (who can so clearly look after herself) second.
** She gets ''very'' angry when Critic fanboys tell her she needs to stay in her territory and not review "boy stuff" like the ''[[X -Men]]'' cartoon.
** Many [[Goth|gothsgoth]]s weren't amused by the jokes in her review of ''[[The Craft]]'', forgetting the fact that A) She's comedian first and foremost, telling jokes is her job, and B) She was less making fun of actual goth culture than the silliness of the movie.
** She's made two abortion jokes, one in ''Grease'' about coat hangers and the other in ''Showgirls'' about pushing the pregnant woman down the stairs. Even though she can joke about whatever the hell she wants, people didn't like these because of her own abortion about half a year prior.
** There are some who yell at [[Todd in The Shadows (Web Video)|Todd in Thethe Shadows]] because they have no idea why he'd reject her. As hypocritical and assy as he is, she's a (hilarious) [[Stalker Withwith a Crush]] who can't take a hint and if he doesn't want her, then he doesn't want her. Simplez, yes?
* [[Fountain of Memes]]
* [[Funny Aneurysm Moment]]: Not an example from within the same work, but The [[Running Gag]] of her [[Hocus Pocus (Filmfilm)|Hocus Pocus]] review centres on the film's hang-ups with virgins, leading her to say "I mean, why do virgins even exist? Why don't they just lose it straight out of the womb...screaming and bleeding?" What would've been a bit of [[Dead Baby Comedy]] / [[Crosses the Line Twice]] moment becomes awful after the creation of [[A Serbian Film]], which several of the other TGWTG comntributors have reviewed.
* [[Growing the Beard]]: She began to develop more of her own review style starting roughly around the time of her ''[[Armageddon]]'' review, after which her BFF Nella became a regular on the show. Around this point is when her reviews took on a more trope based look with a lot more [[Sketch Comedy]]. Then again, see [[Broken Base]] above. And arguably, her "Top 10 Disturbing and Inescapable Christmas Songs" list proved that [[Black Comedy|dark, disturbing humor]] is what she's ''really'' good at.
** The Chick as a character really cemented finally at "Playing God", when she got her [[Sex Bot]].
* [[Harsher in Hindsight]]: She took quite a bit of heat for her [[Schedule Slip]] during 2009-10. Which is pretty painful after the news came out that she was a little busy ''getting an abortion'', and then making a documentary about it for her master's thesis. She should be respected for still being around and making funny videos for the internet even while that was happening.
** In her weight-issues-discussing "Thanks For The Feedback", she mentions that people judge her appearance far more than they do the Critic's. The playing field is leveling out a bit more now, with comments about the "cellulite" on his legs in ''[[Suburban Knights]]'', how he would look much better if he lost a few stone and how he should stop raiding his fridge more than five times a day.
* [[Hate Dumb]]: In her "Disaster Movies of Roland Emmerich" review, she got quite a grilling for using the destruction of the Hometree in ''[[Avatar (Filmfilm)|Avatar]]'' as a counter-argument. [[It Makes Sense in Context]], but suffice to say, it's not so much that her argument was bad, it's seems to be because... she used Avatar.
** You get people willfully ignoring that Chick is a very different persona from Lindsay and calling the latter a snobby fandom-hater when she's clearly not.
* [[Heartwarming in Hindsight]]: In the first "Thanks For The Feedback", the Critic breaks down and shout-asks her if she even cares about him. She doesn't have time to answer before he storms off, but various episodes later on show pretty clearly that he's one of the very few people she ''does'' give a shit about.
* [[Hilarious in Hindsight]]: [https://web.archive.org/web/20110302031315/http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thedudette/specials/29963-gallery-of-ancient-horrors-aids-and-stds This video], which Lindsay originally made while in high school, involves (among other things) a giant stuffed bear with AIDS having an affair with a teenager. In other words, [[Memetic Molester|Pedobear]].
** In her early reviews, she liked making fun of [[Belligerent Sexual Tension]] between characters and how people seemed to think that was entertaining. She has a [[The Masochism Tango|Masochism Tango]]/[[Dating Catwoman]] thing with the Critic that's incredibly enjoyable for both us and them.
** In the ''[[My Little Pony]]'' review, her main beef was that the characters were deathly boring and had no conflict. The new [[My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic (Animation)|show]] has had each of the mane cast break down at least once.
** "And besides, who's going to be interested in a female character who's pretty shamelessly a knock-off of her already popular male counterpart?" Seeing how fricking huge the character sheet is, evidently quite a lot of people.
** She introduced a character named "Lord [[MacGuffin]]". In Pixar's ''[[Brave (Animation)|Brave]]''...
** Her first [https://web.archive.org/web/20100511181227/http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thedudette/nostalgia-chick/21361-stop-worrying-and-love-the-kesha episode] related to the music industry was released about the same time her future IRL [[Todd in Thethe Shadows (Web Video)|boyfriend]] came onto the site.
* [[Hollywood Homely]]: Nella, especially in the ''[[Grease]]'' review. Many [[Comically Missing the Point|Comically Missed the Point]] and treated her like a [[The Woobie|woobie]], not listening to the fact that Nella wrote that sideplot ''herself'' and is perfectly happy with her appearance.
* [[Ho Yay]]: Actually a Les Yay with BFF Nella:
{{quote| '''Nella:''' [Suggesting the Chick dates the Critic] I think you should go out ... of this apartment ... Away from me ... People are starting to talk. The [[Fun T-Shirt|shirts]] don't help.<br />
[The shirts read [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v{{=}}yzhB0gF5GTI&NR{{=}}1 "Mr. Owl, how many licks does it take?"] on Nella and "I (heart) my ([[LampshadedIf DoubleYou EntendreKnow What I Mean|"kitten"]]) on the Chick.] }}
** [[That Guy With theThe Glasses (Website)/Ho Yay|There's far more instances of this at the TGTWTG Ho Yay page]]. Particularly worthy of mention is the Chick and Nella re-enacting the Benn Affleck/Liv Tyler "animal crackers" scene from ''[[Armageddon]]''.
** Also with MarzGurl in "Linking up with Linkara", although that was a prank.
* [[I Knew It!]]: A few fics guessed correctly that she would rape Spoony to get revenge on him for hurting her, and in "Rejected Ideas For 'Spooning With Spoony'", she seems to do it.
* [[Jerkass Woobie]]: The Chick is horrible to Nella, has an abused [[Sex Bot]] and tried to overthrow the Critic for [[The Starscream|her own gain]] in ''[[Kickassia]]'', but she has terrible self-esteem, has a heart of... not gold exactly but bronze, had an bad childhood that she still has issues over and totally broke down in "Spooning With Spoony".
** And now we have her crush on Todd, who ignores her entirely no matter how hard she tries because of his continual obsession with Lupa. It's pathetic, kinda scary (a parody of ''[[Misery]]'' was even cut for ''too'' much creepiness) and established as not love, but like his own pathetic obsession, she's so fucked up about it that you kinda have to feel bad for her.
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* [[Memetic Molester]]: The TGWTG [[Kink Meme]] usually paints the Chick as a [[Bastard Girlfriend|dommy]] [[Comedic Sociopathy|sociopath]] who likes to pick up guys (and girls) with chloroform.
* [[Misaimed Fandom]]: In the Chick/Todd/Lupa [[Fan Nickname|Triangle Of Rejection]], the only one you're meant to feel properly sorry and root for is Lupa. Chick and Todd are only sympathetic because they're so pitiful and for either of them to get what they want (when the object of their affections ''really'' doesn't return the feelings) would be creepy as hell.
** She still gets complaints that her reviews aren't even close to being passionate and that she sounds bored, when it should have been made clear from the ''[[X -Men]]'' review and all of her [[Not So Above It All]] moments that she thinks she's "too good" for that kinda thing. And really, that complaint already is a high YMMV.
** To Lindsay's irritation, the character is seen sometimes as a feminist role model, and [[Girls Need Role Models|even gets bashed for not being one]]. While she says plenty of valid things, she's at heart an abusive, judgmental, stalking, over-exaggerated comedy character not to be taken seriously.
** It might help that she's so dominating and can ignore being in trouble pretty well, but she's really not meant to be a badass taking names. She's just a broken little girl who firmly believes in [[Don't You Dare Pity Me!]].
* [[Moe]]: Nella for being an abused [[Woman Child]] and Maven for being a pretentious but lovable [[Perky Goth]] fangirl.
* [[Narm Charm]]: The last half of the "Kirk vs. Picard video", where Chick and Nella meet to do battle, is ''gloriously'' cheesy.
* [[Nausea Fuel]]: During her review of ''[[Mulan (Disney)|Mulan]]'', Lindsey and Nella wonder about the Chinese practice of footbinding, then later show us some horrifying pictures of bound feet (*shudder*). "Say what you want about Communism, but at least they put a stop to that shit!"
** The ''[[Freddy Got Fingered]]'' review in all its entirety. Aside from the content of the movie itself, we have the Chick, Nella, and [[Oancitizen]] [[Go Mad Fromfrom the Revelation|being driven to madness by the movie]]. It involves sausage among other things.
* [[Never Live It Down]]: Even though it was [[Lost Forever|taken off the site]] quickly, the "Rapping About Rape" video and all the drama surrounding it.
** Her [[Refuge in Audacity]] "worse than seven holocausts" comment seems to be getting there too.
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** God, you chloroform one guy in a sexualized, enjoying-yourself-immensely way and suddenly you're the chloroform queen. (This is a lighter example than the rest, obviously.)
** In an also lighter sense and around twitter, being an "obsessive compulsive stickler for pitch" and autotuning the majority of people in the musical numbers. Even though mostly by one or two notes.
* [[Nightmare Fuel]]: [[The Nostalgia Chick (Web Video)/Nightmare Fuel|Here]].
* [[Older Than They Think]]: Fred The Bear predates [[Image Boards|4chan]] itself and therefore Pedobear by at least four years.
* [[Paranoia Fuel]]: She seems to know exactly when Todd is miserable and is willing to make him feel even worse so he can do what she wants. For anyone who's been stalked, it'll hit too close to home even though it's [[Played for Laughs]].
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* [[Rewatch Bonus]]: You'll be surprised to see just how many moments in the earlier reviews that seemed like a prototype of the messed up, trying-to-be-sane-but-failing [[Psychopathic Manchild|Psychopathic Womanchild]] character we have today.
* [[He Panned It, Now He Sucks|She Panned It, Now She Sucks]]: She pissed off quite a few people with her negative review of ''[[Dune]]''.
** So did her review of the ''[[Transformers]]'' franchise. In a self-parody, [[The Nostalgia Critic (Web Video)|The Nostalgia Critic]] bitched at her for that one too.
** Inevitably, fans of the ''[[The Little Mermaid (Disney)|The Little Mermaid]]'' weren't too keen on her hate for it.
** Apparently ''[[Disney]]'' fangirls can be just as savage as fanboys, because they got their claws out when she ''reviewed'' ([[Fan Dumb|not panned, we might add]]) ''[[Mulan (Disney)|Mulan]]'' and slammed ''[[Hercules (Disney1997 film)|Hercules]]''
*** Notably, Lindsay's actual opinion of Hercules sums up to "It was flawed, but I DO enjoy it."
** People who liked ''[[Dragonheart]]'' for more than just the "fucking dragon", bitched heavily after her review of it too.
** Not everyone agrees with her view that ''[[Shrek]]'' was a hate-filled [[Take That]] at Disney.
** Early on, ''[[Gargoyles (Animation)|Gargoyles]]'' fans weren't exactly happy when she acted like two well-established [[Tear Jerker]] moments in the show were unintentionally hilarious instead.
** As you can tell from this page alone, she made her rage at ''[[Beauty and Thethe Beast: The Enchanted Christmas]]'' abundantly clear. The movie was actually received quite well, so at the very least people were confused by her calling it worse than "seven holocausts".
** During her review of ''[[The Man in the Iron Mask (1998 film)|The Man in the Iron Mask]]'' she said the only reason the movie did well was because of squeeing [[Leonardo Di CaprioDiCaprio]] fangirls. People who liked the movie as a movie were not pleased.
** ''[[The Fifth Element]]''. Many people think she really misrepresented this film, especially when she didn't show Leeloo kicking ass so she could complain about her being [[The Chick]].
** Really, the Chick is subject to this far more often than the Critic, since she tends to review films that are usually rather well-liked, such as... Well, ''[[Mulan]]'', ''[[Hercules (Disney1997 film)|Hercules]]'' and ''[[The Little Mermaid (Disney)|The Little Mermaid]]'', while the Critic reviews, well... [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxHNztg0X3s This]. She explains this in the ''Worst Witch'' review, as people tend to be more forgiving towards the popular films rather the obscure.
** Many fans of ''Jem'' were very angry at Lindsy for her panning the series, the biggest complaint came from her not even bothering to watch the series entirely before she reviewed it.
** Although she didn't actually REVIEW it, she put a small [[Take That]] to [[Lilo and Stitch (Disney film)|Liloand Stitch]] as [[They Just Didn't Care|"Slapped together garbage" that "didn't have as much passion put into it"]] as [[The Lion King (Disney)|The Lion King]] in her review of The Lion King.
* [[He Really Can Act (Sugar Wiki)|She Really Can Act]]: Nella in the Dark Nella Saga. Funny, genuinely scary and able to go to between "a quasi-demonic force of evil" and her usual fangirly self.
* [[Spotlight-Stealing Squad]]: Nella and Elisa have gained more prominence in her newer reviews.
* [[Straw Man Has a Point]]: Well, maybe [[Todd in The Shadows (Web Video)|Todd in Thethe Shadows]] could stand to wear something brighter...
* [[Tear Jerker]]: [[The Nostalgia Chick (Web Video)/Tear Jerker|Here.]]
* [[Unpopular Popular Character]]: Nella, oh so much.
* [[Vocal Minority]]: Like how Critic fangirls don't actually want him [[Bound and Gagged]] in their basement, most Chick fanboys are respectful people who think she's great fun to watch (so not just something pretty to look at) and don't insult other contributors when praising her.
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* [[Yoko Oh No]]: While the majority of Critic fangirls love her, there are a crazy few with either a [[Double Standard]] regarding skits and humor or just like talking about how they'd enjoy beating the shit out of her while calling him adorable. The fact that Doug seems to love Lindsay like a little sister doesn't seem to enter into their heads.
 
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