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*** A [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMHzOjggHoA youtube] clip on how Neelix should have been handled in the series.
** Oh, and speaking of Kes... Who in the world thought her up? This was a concept that might look good on paper, but… No, check that, this is a concept that doesn’t even look good on paper. This character couldn’t and ''shouldn’t'' work. A race of sapient and civilized aliens with only a ten-year lifespan pushes the [[Willing Suspension of Disbelief]] (even for Trekkies) far enough as it is, explained through the eyes of a two-year old member of said species, who has two members of the crew competing for her affection, both of which are thirty years older, at least… ''She is a child'', and no amount of “logic” nor character development is going to change that to viewers. While Jennifer Lien does get an A for effort in her attempts to sell Kes as believable and likable, and had a few pretty good episodes focusing on her (mostly "Before and After" and "Warlords") but far too many bad ones to make her a decent character. Her departure at the beginning of Season 4 was pretty much the only direction the writers could take for her.
** Seven of Nine, for the usual [[Die for Our Ship]] reasons and for being [[Ms. Fanservice]]. Kate Mulgrew herself never liked the concept behind this character; her own character - Captain Janeway - was designed to be a [[Deconstruction]] of female characters in science fiction (''not'' a [[Ms. Fanservice]] and ''never'' a [[Damsel in Distress]], but a competent, intelligent leader) and ''it worked'', so she was very cold to the idea of the introduction of a character who clearly ''was'' introduced for sex appeal, so much that she and Jeri Ryan had a lot of trouble getting along on the set.
** Chakotay has this among American Indian Trekkies for [[Ethnic Scrappy]] [[Magical Native American|reasons]].
** The entire Kazon species basically constituted one of these on the first two seasons of ''[[Star Trek: Voyager]]''; while nearly every other alien species on [[Star Trek]] gets some measure of character development, the Kazon were ''never'' depicted as anything other than [[Card-Carrying Villain|moustache-twirling badguys]]. And in spite of the fact that the entire species seemed to be rock-stupid and technologically backwards, ''Voyager'' somehow managed not only to keep running into them, but to keep running into the ''same'' ones. Later in the series, the writers themselves took shots at the Kazon by revealing that the Borg took a pass on assimilating them on the grounds that doing so would undermine their perfection. Their role as a major power in the Delta quadrant seems an [[Ass Pull]] as well. On the first episode they are shown, they are depicted as a small nomadic slave-trading tribe always on the move to find vital water supplies... but the minute Neelix pisses them off, out comes the armada of Voyager-level warships always on the Voyager's tail. It's almost like refusing change to a bum on the subway only to find you pissed off [[The Godfather|Don Corleone.]]
* Narissa from ''[[Star Trek: Picard]]''. It would be easy to call this character "the Evil Romulan Lady", but the trouble there is, that's the usual moniker given to the Romulan Commander from the OS episode "The Enterprise Incident", and ''she'' is a memorable, likeable, three-dimensional character, unlike whats-her-name from this series. Again the fault of the writers, as Peyton List tried hard trying to eek out a personality in a flat role that gave her nothing to work with. The Admonition storyline seemed to open her to some character development, but it came and went quickly. Even her death after a fight with Seven of Nine (who, ironically, was on her own way to being [[Rescued From the Scrappy Heap]] by then) seemed bland and anti-climatic. Still, ''Star Trek'' is often a series where [[Death Is a Slap on The Wrist]], so there ''might'' be some chance she'll return and improve as a character... maybe...
* ''[[Supernatural]]'':
** Here's a fun exercise: Go to a forum and casually mention that [[Rich Bitch|Bela]] may not be so bad. [[Hilarity Ensues|Hilarity Will Ensue]].
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