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* [[Acclaimed Flop]]

* [[Fan-Preferred Couple]]: Justin and Mrs. Brisby. Some fans tend to mistake Justin's chivalry as romantic advances on the widowed female ''of another species''.

** Mind you, here's what the actual script has to say about their introduction:

* [[Furry Fandom]]: This is one of the fandom's flagship movies.

* [[Hilarious in Hindsight]] / [[Harsher in Hindsight]]: A mild case, but at some point Mr. Ages asks Justin to take Mrs. Brisby to the library (where she can wait before meeting Nicodemus). Yet it's later revealed that she only has very basic reading skills, and thus would probably not be able to enjoy the reading of a book.

* [[What Do You Mean It's for Kids?]]/[[What Do You Mean It's Not for Kids?]]: It's hard to tell whether this is really a family movie. Graphic on-screen character death, horrifying creatures, a completely superfluous "damn," several psychologically disturbing scenes - [[Memetic Mutation|You know, for kids!]]

 

 

* [[Ass Pull]]: Two examples;

*** [[Fridge Brilliance|Perhaps the Nicodemus who gave that prophecy was really Jeremy, who wanted Timmy to go to NIMH?]]

** Second is Mrs. Brisby's letter to Timmy that Martin is missing. You would think that because Martin is an important character in the story that this letter should be an important plot point, but it is thrown in quite far into the movie just to explain that Martin went missing. It even ''looks'' like Timmy pulled the thing out of his ass.

** In the middle of Evil Martin's [[Villain Song]], he sings about fluffy ice-cream clouds and [[Cute Kitten|kittens]] before [[We Can Rule Together|getting back on topic]]. Sure, Evil Meatin is crazy, but did he have to get so off-track there?

*** It wasn’t off track. That was his hammy and rather in-character-wise silly way of talking about the wonderful life awaiting his brother, should he decide to cooperate.

* [[Disney Acid Sequence]]: Evil Martin's [[Villain Song]]. ''Good lord''.....

* [[Marty Stu]]/[[Sympathetic Sue|Sympathetic Stu]]: Timmy. He is praised as a hero, before he even hits puberty or does ''anything'' worthwhile. He spends much of the movie angsting over his dead father and his supposed destiny to follow in his footsteps. He is generally reckless and inattentive, and yet he still manages to save several other characters, largely by accident. Anyone who disagrees with him is portrayed as in the wrong, and to top it off, he gets the girl after a single line of dialogue.

** To give an idea, Mrs. Brisby is in the film for about a grand total of 25 seconds. No recognition is made of the amazing stuff she did towards the end of the first film, not even a "Hey, that was some cool stuff you did." The entire conflict of the movie is an extremely obvious [[Self-Fulfilling Prophecy]] that can be seen a mile away, the songs absolutely '''suck''', and almost as if to call attention to the horrible animation, there are a few clips from the first film at the beginning, which actually serve to remind the viewer that "Hey, remember this movie? You should be watching that one again, not this one. See how much better it looks?"

*** For many, the ''ONLY'' bright spot is [[Ham and Cheese|Eric Idle as Evil Martin]]. When he's on screen, it's ''somewhat'' less painful.

*** As with many of the unofficial Bluth sequels, Timmy To The Rescue is popular with some younger audiences due to the [[Lighter and Softer]] setup (which was likely what was intended).

 

 

* [[Ensemble Darkhorse]]: Jeremy may count, due to his [[Crowning Moment of Funny|comic relief]] role, being voiced by Dom De Luise.

** General fanon stated that the mice survived their drop in the shaft, mostly because because it was [[They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot|a cool plot point]] and was a ''little'' open to interpretation. Funnily enough, this idea was actually picked up by the sequel.