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* [[Awesome Music (Sugar Wiki)|Awesome Music]]:

** No one expected the music to be that ''epic''.

** Though things looked grim when "Omens" first premiered and [[No Theme Tune]] was evident, "Ramlak Rising" gave viewers a hypercompressed spin on a classic. There's the [[Iconic Logo]], the [[Fanfare]], the [[Epic Riff]], even the ''words'' are "audible." Verdict: [[Three Chords and ~~The~~ Truth|Stripped down]], but still epic.

** Though things looked grim when "Omens" first premiered and [[No Theme Tune]] was evident, "Ramlak Rising" gave viewers a hypercompressed spin on a classic. There's the [[Iconic Logo]], the [[Fanfare]], the [[Epic Riff]], even the ''words'' are "audible." Verdict: [[Three Chords and the Truth|Stripped down]], but still epic.

** While its usage is not exclusive to the ''Thundercats'' series, the epic and amazing music used for the trailers and promos, [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0qY0r35XRM "Protectors of the Earth"], is '''definitely''' worth a mention here.

** Wilykit's playing during Claudus' funeral. Heart-tugging.

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** To say nothing of Tygra. His [[Green-Eyed Monster|constant jealously]] of Lion-O has earned him a fair share of dislikers.

** Lion-O and Cheetara have become this since episode 14, thanks to the [[Love Triangle]].

* [[Better On DVD]]: This is rapidly becoming apparent. One complaint against the series is that [[Continuity Lock Out|it's very hard to leap in halfway and know what's going on.]] The creators have stated that they tried to plot the show into tightly focused, 13 episode arcs [[Genre Savvy|because they know how hard it is to get a second season these days]] and wanted to make sure the audience got a complete story just in case things don't go their way. Some episodes don't really ''end'' as much as they just stop only to pick up right where they left off the next week.

* [[Better on DVD]]: This is rapidly becoming apparent. One complaint against the series is that [[Continuity Lock Out|it's very hard to leap in halfway and know what's going on.]] The creators have stated that they tried to plot the show into tightly focused, 13 episode arcs [[Genre Savvy|because they know how hard it is to get a second season these days]] and wanted to make sure the audience got a complete story just in case things don't go their way. Some episodes don't really ''end'' as much as they just stop only to pick up right where they left off the next week.

** By [[Word of God]] the show is broken up into mini-arcs (of roughly seven episodes apiece, give or take) within the overarching season arc. Of particular note, the episodes "The Pit," "Curse of Ratilla," and "Birth of the Blades" were conceived and written as one single narrative.

* [[Cargo Ship]]: Panthro's only love interest is the Thundertank.

* [[Cliché Storm]]: The most common complaint leveled against the premiere, other than ones related to [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks]].

* [[Complaining About Shows You Don't Watch]]/[[Nostalgia Filter]]/[[They Changed It, Now It Sucks/Western Animation|They Changed It Now It Sucks]]:

** Before the first episode aired, people who grew up with the [[~~Thunder Cats~~|original 80's show]] denounced the 2011 "[[Animesque|too anime]]" character designs, though the [http://slices-of-life.com/2011/03/02/thundercats-characters-hoooo-old-and-new/ original designs are both dated], and themselves [[Animesque]] in their time.

** Before the first episode aired, people who grew up with the [[Thundercats|original 80's show]] denounced the 2011 "[[Animesque|too anime]]" character designs, though the [http://slices-of-life.com/2011/03/02/thundercats-characters-hoooo-old-and-new/ original designs are both dated], and themselves [[Animesque]] in their time.

** However the show has received near-unanimous praise on [http://www.thundercats.ws/ Thundercats.ws], one of the largest Thundercats fan-boards out there.

** One review did suggest that most of those already denouncing the new show have not seen the original since they were children.

** When a clip revealed that Mumm-Ra has his [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73HlG2Xd2FA own tank] in episode 6, some people flat out stated the show may be [[Ruined FOREVER]] because of it. Talk about jumping the gun.

* [[Continuity Lock Out]]: It ''is'' admittedly, a show that is heavy on plot, light on exposition.

* [[Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy]]: Seems to be CR's main complaint when reviewing the premiere on ''[[~~Familiar Faces (Web Video)|~~Familiar Faces]].'' (Some commenters thought he was missing the point.)

* [[Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy]]: Seems to be CR's main complaint when reviewing the premiere on ''[[Familiar Faces]].'' (Some commenters thought he was missing the point.)

* [[Designated Villain]]: The Duelist. A [[Hustling the Mark|hustler]], yes, and happy to challenge others to a [[Duel to ~~The~~ Death]]. But he did ''win'' those swords.

* [[Designated Villain]]: The Duelist. A [[Hustling the Mark|hustler]], yes, and happy to challenge others to a [[Duel to the Death]]. But he did ''win'' those swords.

* [[Ensemble Darkhorse|Ensemble Darkhorses]]:

** The Thunderkittens are well liked by initial reviewers, and are already popular with fans just from the previews and leaks. One review even called them the [[Breakout Character|Breakout Characters]] of the show.

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** Fabulously [[Lampshade Hanging|lampshaded]] the very next episode by Panthro dryly noting how miraculous it is they've survived this long "without adult supervision."

** "The defeat of your enemy is worth any sacrifice". Granted, we probably aren't meant to completely agree with this, but Panthro does subscribe to this line of thinking when {{spoiler|he sacrifices both his arms to trap Grune in the spirit world.}}

* [[Fan Dumb]]: People criticized the characters for being shallow after only ''one premiere episode.'' Even ''[[~~Shortpacked (Webcomic)|~~Shortpacked]]'' [http://www.shortpacked.com/2011/comic/book-13/03-fishin-chicks/tldr/ negatively compared it] to ''[[~~Avatar: The Last Airbender (Animation)|~~Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'', though those characters were also underdeveloped in the first episode, but then fleshed out over three seasons. Jumping the gun much?

* [[Fan Dumb]]: People criticized the characters for being shallow after only ''one premiere episode.'' Even ''[[Shortpacked]]'' [http://www.shortpacked.com/2011/comic/book-13/03-fishin-chicks/tldr/ negatively compared it] to ''[[Avatar: The Last Airbender]]'', though those characters were also underdeveloped in the first episode, but then fleshed out over three seasons. Jumping the gun much?

** Some of the more extreme reactions to Episode 13 qualify.

* [[Faux Symbolism]]: Tygra's backstory has distinctly biblical elements. {{spoiler|His father was ordered to sacrifice him by a higher power, but didn't go through with it (Abraham and Isaac) and he was sent away for his own safety to be found and raised by the royal family (Moses)}}.

* [[Hilarious in Hindsight]]:

** Early in the second season of the [[~~Thunder Cats~~|original 80's show]], Lynx-O tells Lion-O that his voice sounds just like his father's. In the 2011 remake, Larry Kenny, Lion-O's original VA, will be the VA for Lion-O's father, Claudus.

** Early in the second season of the [[Thundercats|original 80's show]], Lynx-O tells Lion-O that his voice sounds just like his father's. In the 2011 remake, Larry Kenny, Lion-O's original VA, will be the VA for Lion-O's father, Claudus.

** A kingdom of cats with one black maned cat leading a rebellion against the king with the oppressed minorities? [[The Lion King ~~(Disney)~~|Why does that sound familiar?]]

** A kingdom of cats with one black maned cat leading a rebellion against the king with the oppressed minorities? [[The Lion King|Why does that sound familiar?]]

* [[Ho Yay]]:

** Yup. Already. Of the [[Sibling Incest]] variety, no less. [[Accidental Innuendo]] or [[Incest Subtext]]?

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* [[Moe]]:

** The Thunderkittens.

** Also, Emrick. [[I'm Taking Her Home ~~With~~ Me|Awww!]]

** Also, Emrick. [[I'm Taking Her Home with Me|Awww!]]

** Young Cheetara too.

* [[Mood Whiplash]]: At the end of "Between Brothers", {{spoiler|Panthro loses both his hands for throwing Grune in the collapsing Astral Plane.}} Then the scene shifts to a party and Panthro yelling at Snarf for being a nursemaid. Would it hurt to be a slight bit serious?

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** Snarf. Being a less-sentient non-speaking creature mean's he's not a nagging whiner this time around. Fan response has been much more positive. Also WilyKit and WilyKat, for those who found them annoying in the original.

** Although there are the few fans who ''enjoyed'' Snarf's voice in the original, and are actually ''upset'' he doesn't talk.

* [[Role Association]]: An attack on Third Earth by [[DCAU|Lex Luthor]], [[Codename Kids Next Door ~~(Animation)~~|Numbah 4]], and [[Just Cause (~~Video~~ ~~Game~~)|Rico Rodriguez]] causes the deaths of Sonny the Cuckoo Bird and [[God of War (~~Video Game~~)|Zeus]]. It's now up to the new Thundercats - [[Batman Beyond ~~(Animation)~~|Terry McGinnis]], [[The Borgias ~~(TV)~~|Sancia]], [[The Superhero Squad Show ~~(Animation)~~|Nick Fury]], [[There Will Be Brawl|Kirby]], and [[Pokémon (~~Anime~~)|Togepi]] - to stop their evil reign.

* [[Role Association]]: An attack on Third Earth by [[DCAU|Lex Luthor]], [[Codename: Kids Next Door|Numbah 4]], and [[Just Cause (video game)|Rico Rodriguez]] causes the deaths of Sonny the Cuckoo Bird and [[God of War (series)|Zeus]]. It's now up to the new Thundercats - [[Batman Beyond|Terry McGinnis]], [[The Borgias|Sancia]], [[The Superhero Squad Show|Nick Fury]], [[There Will Be Brawl|Kirby]], and [[Pokémon (anime)|Togepi]] - to stop their evil reign.

** Wait, is that [[Boy Meets World ~~(TV)~~|Eric Matthews]] fighting [[Team Fortress 2 ~~(Video Game)~~|The Medic]]?!

** Wait, is that [[Boy Meets World|Eric Matthews]] fighting [[Team Fortress 2|The Medic]]?!

* [[Ship-to-Ship Combat]]: Like with all fandoms, but in this case it was a three way battle: [[Bodyguard Crush|Lion-O/Cheetara]] vs. [[Childhood Friend Romance|Tygra/Cheetara]] vs. [[Ho Yay|Lion-O/Tygra.]] {{spoiler|Tygra/Cheetara wins.}}

* [[Shipping Goggles]]: The peculiar [[Incest Subtext]]-laden [[Accidental Innuendo]] of "Omens Part One" gave rise to Lion-O/Tygra [[Not Blood Siblings]] [[Ho Yay Shipping]].

* [[So Cool It's Awesome (Sugar Wiki)|So Cool Its Awesome]]: The premiere has been getting phenomenally good reception from both fans and those new to ''[[~~Thundercats (Animation)|~~Thundercats]]''. [[Studio 4 C]]'s reputation from projects like ''[[Batman Gotham Knight]]'' and ''[[~~The Animatrix (Anime)|~~The Animatrix]]'', high quantities of [[Badass]] and [[Moe]], and a lot of [[Hey, It's That Guy!]] are probably all factors bringing the new fans in.

* [[So Cool It's Awesome (Sugar Wiki)|So Cool Its Awesome]]: The premiere has been getting phenomenally good reception from both fans and those new to ''[[Thundercats]]''. [[Studio 4°C]]'s reputation from projects like ''[[Batman Gotham Knight]]'' and ''[[The Animatrix]]'', high quantities of [[Badass]] and [[Moe]], and a lot of [[Hey, It's That Guy!]] are probably all factors bringing the new fans in.

* [[Unfortunate Implications]]:

** Think of that Berbil arm seen briefly in "Omens Part One"...