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I'm not sure about Stromboli getting any write-up for the Disney page unless you can propose a good one, but he actually is already mentioned on the film's YMMV:
I'm not sure about Stromboli getting any write-up for the Disney page unless you can propose a good one, but he actually is already mentioned on the film's YMMV:
** Stromboli qualifies as well. Even if he is a puppet, Pinocchio is still a child. How do you threaten to keep him caged, exploit him, and then murder him by chopping him into firewood after you're done with him, and live with yourself?
* Stromboli qualifies as well. Even if he is a puppet, Pinocchio is still a child. How do you threaten to keep him caged, exploit him, and then murder him by chopping him into firewood after you're done with him, and live with yourself?


And yes, I think he is a qualifier or at least contender. I have an Encyclopedia of Disney Animated Characters, and the writer talks about what makes both Stromboli and the Coachmen almost equally heinous (I say "almost" because even the book flat out states that the Coachman is the worse of the two). The two things that stand out about Stromboli is how for one he's the anti-Geppetto, an artist or creator who does what he does for profit rather than the art of it and is more into disposing of his work once he's done using it rather than preserving his creations. And for another thing, it mentions how horrifying it is that he seems so friendly with Pinocchio, almost like a second father figure to him, before completely betraying his trust and revealing his true monstrous nature. The betrayal of trust is an even greater horror than his actual murderous intentions and display of venom towards Pinocchio. As the book says: his "friend" is not a friend at all ''and very evidently never has been''. It also says Stromboli's power as a villain is, despite being on-screen for such a short amount of time, he comes off as a genuine person rather than a straight-forward cardboard thug character. He appears friendly, generous, and jovial only to be revealed as greed, mean, and downright murderous, which is the film's first "loss of innocence" moment. The book caps it off by saying "Stromboli is a character from nightmare: such characters are often found in the real world, too, which makes Stromboli all the more terrifying." So yes, that's pretty convincing that he'd count in this trope.
And yes, I think he is a qualifier or at least contender. I have an Encyclopedia of Disney Animated Characters, and the writer talks about what makes both Stromboli and the Coachmen almost equally heinous (I say "almost" because even the book flat out states that the Coachman is the worse of the two). The two things that stand out about Stromboli is how for one he's the anti-Geppetto, an artist or creator who does what he does for profit rather than the art of it and is more into disposing of his work once he's done using it rather than preserving his creations. And for another thing, it mentions how horrifying it is that he seems so friendly with Pinocchio, almost like a second father figure to him, before completely betraying his trust and revealing his true monstrous nature. The betrayal of trust is an even greater horror than his actual murderous intentions and display of venom towards Pinocchio. As the book says: his "friend" is not a friend at all ''and very evidently never has been''. It also says Stromboli's power as a villain is, despite being on-screen for such a short amount of time, he comes off as a genuine person rather than a straight-forward cardboard thug character. He appears friendly, generous, and jovial only to be revealed as greed, mean, and downright murderous, which is the film's first "loss of innocence" moment. The book caps it off by saying "Stromboli is a character from nightmare: such characters are often found in the real world, too, which makes Stromboli all the more terrifying." So yes, that's pretty convincing that he'd count in this trope.