Topic on Talk:Alternate Realm Boon

Disconnection with the trope I worked on.

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Kuma (talkcontribs)

I've been having problems with somethings with the description and some examples on this trope page. The problem is how I thought that writing on the pages is supposed to be casual. I am not saying what has been put onto the trope is wrong, but it might break the standards for All The Tropes. An example would be one of the bullet points here: "Being assigned to or assisted by a supernatural entity that works under RPG rules and which can dispense boons at the command of the character, including, but not limited to, any of the above. A common version that appears mostly in Chinese works is the "system", a Mission Control (either voice-only, hologram-like, or artificial lifeform) assigned by a supernatural organization engaged in the improvement of perceived flaws in other works of fiction or in parallel universes, and which keeps a tally on how well the character uses the boons given. Note that this option often comes with the limitation that, if the character falls short of the system's expectations, it will "terminate the experience of the customer"." It is longer than the other bullet points, and that it seems to stray away from being casual, at least from what I could see. Also, it seems more specific rather than generalized compared to other points. Other examples are longer than others as well. I tried to change them, but an objection from another user stated the removal of plot points. I apologize for my edit causing problems, but I can see problems with them unless there is something that I am missing that someone can give me some insight. I honestly do not know what to do, and I need anyone's help with any response if you can. Thank you for reading my post, and have a nice day.

Lequinni (talkcontribs)

It may sounds "too specific", @Kuma, but believe me when I say that said description is the most generalized version of all the "System" boons I have seen in Chinese and Korean webnovels with that plot point. It's a very specific trope in Chinese Isekai that I could propose if there were someone else besides me to fish for examples. I can try to tight the wording to make it as specific and casual-sounding as the other versions, but I cannot promise the end result.

If you think that an example is too long and clunky, but you don't know the work, I could suggest to go to the wikipedia article and see the plot and character list. It can help on pinpoint

I think that is time to ask for the admins and other experienced users for another revision. I think we have cleaned it enough from wonky grammar to get a style polish, and with the amount of examples we have this page should have been launched long ago.

Kuma (talkcontribs)

Thank you for replying and your edit for the page. Also, sorry for not replying sooner. I wish to apologize for not giving more details on the specific part of the system example. It is not just in Chinese and Korean media but also for Japanese as well. There are some examples from Japanese media that can be seen on the page:

Death March's Protagonist is the only one who can use an RPG-like system that lets him store items, gain more skills, view his status, etc.
The New Gate's protagonist can access an MMORPG-like system much like the game he was in before being transported to another. The inhabitants can't access such a feature.
World Customize Creator's protagonist has a Divine Art that allows him to customize anything through windows that pop up like in a game. This power is unique to him compared to others who may have their own Divine Arts.
In Reborn as a Vending Machine, I Now Wander the Dungeon, The vending machine protagonist has access to a system that allows him to customize and upgrade what products he sells but in exchange for money.
Another example that I have found but haven't posted is called Goshujinsama to Yuku Isekai Survival, where this protagonist can call upon a crafting system that is oddly similar to Minecraft or other games in the genre.
Another Japanese Isekai is called I'm Standing on 1,000,000 Lives. The characters each have access to an RPG-like system that provides them skills, weapons, leveling up, revival, etc. 

If we look at Korean media, we can see two examples;

One is already on the page called I am the Sorcerer King, where the protagonist is a reincarnated archmage on Earth being ravaged by monsters, but people known as Awakened can fight them due to using an RPG-like system called the Akasha System. 
Another is called Latna Saga: Survival of a Sword King, where people from Earth are each given their own personal system called a Guideline which functions like an RPG where they are giving skills, magic, and classes leveling up. Unfortunately, the main character is giving a defective one where he can't advance like other people. The inhabitants of the world don't have Guidelines thus are weaker compared to people who have one.

These are just ones that I could find, but there might be more out there. I am sorry for how long this reply is, but I don't know a better way to make a convincing argument. I hope that this helps with understanding what I mean where the System point can be more general rather than just being found in Chinese novels and manhua. Also, I agree that it should be time for a mod to do an edit pass, but they are most likely busy with spammers to do that.