Topic on Talk:TV Tropes

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I personally just think of the Troper Tales fiasco - I don't think they're in a hurry to repeat that mistake anytime soon, and I doubt anyone who's witnessed this firsthand or via the YouTube videos is in a hurry to blame them, either.

I repeat, plenty of criticisms to be had about their handling of the Second Google Incident, and I said as much to that effect in my edit summary: there's so many such criticisms that making that argument shouldn't be hard at all, so to see all of that and still rely on gray-area stuff like the bits I just reverted genuinely strikes me as a sign of intellectual laziness - I've been fairly consistent about this going back to around my edits on Fuck No TVTropes. A poor argument is a poor argument, and In My Opinion™, I'd rather someone outright say to me that they want to continue pissing on TVTropes than try to barely disguise umbrage at the idea that we might only have 99 paragraphs of anti-TVT vitriol instead of 100.

"Anti-Fan" Wank with an Acceptable Target is still wank. And wank makes for bad articles.