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== Anime & Manga ==
== Anime & Manga ==
* In ''[[Full Metal Panic!]]'', Sousuke [[Adorably Precocious Child|when he was a kid]], as seen in his and Kalinin's backstory. He kills [[The Stoic|without batting an eye]], has an ''extremely'' nihilistic view of things, and is [[Emotionless Girl|creepily unemotional]]. Especially noticeable [http://pics.livejournal.com/fmp_misha/pic/0003qgt1 here].
* In ''[[Full Metal Panic!]]'', Sousuke [[Adorably Precocious Child|when he was a kid]], as seen in his and Kalinin's backstory. He kills [[The Stoic|without batting an eye]], has an ''extremely'' nihilistic view of things, and is [[Emotionless Girl|creepily unemotional]]. Especially noticeable [http://pics.livejournal.com/fmp_misha/pic/0003qgt1 here].
* After adopting [[Artificial Human|Pinoko]], [[Black Jack]] is more than a little disconcerted to discover that the [[Younger Than They Look|10-day-old]] (who insists she's a "virgin maiden" of [[Older Than They Look|18]] and looks about 6) [[Precocious Crush|has developed feelings for him]] -- but what ''really'' scares him is that she already knows what a virgin is
* After adopting [[Artificial Human|Pinoko]], [[Black Jack]] is more than a little disconcerted to discover that the [[Younger Than They Look|10-day-old]] (who insists she's a "virgin maiden" of [[Older Than They Look|18]] and looks about 6) [[Precocious Crush|has developed feelings for him]]—but what ''really'' scares him is that she already knows what a virgin is
{{quote|'''Black Jack:''' Good God, where did you learn that kind of language?}}
{{quote|'''Black Jack:''' Good God, where did you learn that kind of language?}}
* Subverted in ''[[Monster (manga)|Monster]]''. Dieter tosses back a shot like a pro, then jauntily salutes the rest of the patrons as he leaves with a toothpick in his mouth. Once outside, though, he immediately begins retching and questioning the sanity of adults who drink that stuff for fun.
* Subverted in ''[[Monster (manga)|Monster]]''. Dieter tosses back a shot like a pro, then jauntily salutes the rest of the patrons as he leaves with a toothpick in his mouth. Once outside, though, he immediately begins retching and questioning the sanity of adults who drink that stuff for fun.
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* Meet [[Umineko no Naku Koro ni|Maria Ushiromiya]], 9-year-old walking encyclopedia of all things relating to Western occult lore and "black magic." Also has a rather [[Annoying Laugh|irritating]] [[Evil Laugh]] and a habit of using it at [[Creepy Child|incredibly inappropriate times]], like after seeing {{spoiler|her mother and 5 of her relatives'}} horribly mutilated corpses.
* Meet [[Umineko no Naku Koro ni|Maria Ushiromiya]], 9-year-old walking encyclopedia of all things relating to Western occult lore and "black magic." Also has a rather [[Annoying Laugh|irritating]] [[Evil Laugh]] and a habit of using it at [[Creepy Child|incredibly inappropriate times]], like after seeing {{spoiler|her mother and 5 of her relatives'}} horribly mutilated corpses.
* Essentially every child Contractor and Doll from ''[[Darker than Black]]'' qualifies for this. [[Lack of Empathy]] or becoming an [[Extreme Doormat]] will do that to you.
* Essentially every child Contractor and Doll from ''[[Darker than Black]]'' qualifies for this. [[Lack of Empathy]] or becoming an [[Extreme Doormat]] will do that to you.
* ''[[Japan Tengu Party Illustrated]]'' has a disturbing relationship between a [[Youkai|Tengu]] man and the human child he kidnapped ostensibly to be the vessel for their leader (when he uses her to speak, he ''swallows her and uses her as his tongue''). The child manages to escape the tengu, but the kidnapper is still concerned and obsessed with her. He eventually finds her phone number during a battle, but she never wants to see him again, and besides she's already safe in bed - ''with her teacher'' (she likes "magicians (the teacher) better then monsters (the tengu)") <ref> "[[Real Life]]" tengu are notorious for kidnapping children and returning them (if they do at all) "in a daze", and tales of monks (tengu dress as mountain aesthetics) and their child-novices don't even bother with [[Unusual Euphemism|Unusual Euphemisms]].</ref>
* ''[[Japan Tengu Party Illustrated]]'' has a disturbing relationship between a [[Youkai|Tengu]] man and the human child he kidnapped ostensibly to be the vessel for their leader (when he uses her to speak, he ''swallows her and uses her as his tongue''). The child manages to escape the tengu, but the kidnapper is still concerned and obsessed with her. He eventually finds her phone number during a battle, but she never wants to see him again, and besides she's already safe in bed - ''with her teacher'' (she likes "magicians (the teacher) better then monsters (the tengu)") <ref>"[[Real Life]]" tengu are notorious for kidnapping children and returning them (if they do at all) "in a daze", and tales of monks (tengu dress as mountain aesthetics) and their child-novices don't even bother with [[Unusual Euphemism]]s.</ref>
* Vincent in ''[[Pandora Hearts]]''. Taking scissors to stuffed toys? Indicative of problems, but not completely unheard of. Taking scissors to {{spoiler|the eyes of Alice's cat? And what about ALICE HERSELF?}} That's not a good sign. It also borders on [[Psychopathic Manchild]] behavior since he still does it as a young adult.
* Vincent in ''[[Pandora Hearts]]''. Taking scissors to stuffed toys? Indicative of problems, but not completely unheard of. Taking scissors to {{spoiler|the eyes of Alice's cat? And what about ALICE HERSELF?}} That's not a good sign. It also borders on [[Psychopathic Manchild]] behavior since he still does it as a young adult.
** In confusing flashbacks and illustrations, Alice {{spoiler|or more accurately, the Will of the Abyss... [[Mind Screw|sometimes...]]}} also does this, displaying [http://dragonempress.net/curious/images/pandora-09-05-03.jpg somewhat unsettlingly flirty behavior] with Jack and being cheerfully vicious with Vincent. Eventually leading to yet more of this trope from {{spoiler|''Gilbert''}}, who tries to strangle her.
** In confusing flashbacks and illustrations, Alice {{spoiler|or more accurately, the Will of the Abyss... [[Mind Screw|sometimes...]]}} also does this, displaying [http://dragonempress.net/curious/images/pandora-09-05-03.jpg somewhat unsettlingly flirty behavior] with Jack and being cheerfully vicious with Vincent. Eventually leading to yet more of this trope from {{spoiler|''Gilbert''}}, who tries to strangle her.
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** Broly is an extreme case, but Saiya-jin children in general are pretty disturbing by human standards. Originally, Kakarot was sent to Earth to ''wipe out all life forms''. They may look cute and innocent, but [[Not So Harmless|looking is as far as it gets]].
** Broly is an extreme case, but Saiya-jin children in general are pretty disturbing by human standards. Originally, Kakarot was sent to Earth to ''wipe out all life forms''. They may look cute and innocent, but [[Not So Harmless|looking is as far as it gets]].
* Played for laughs with ''[[Crayon Shin-chan|Shin Chan]]'', a preschool age boy with the libido of a middle-aged man, who constantly hits on hot women. His baby sister Hima is also occasionally shown to find grown men attractive.
* Played for laughs with ''[[Crayon Shin-chan|Shin Chan]]'', a preschool age boy with the libido of a middle-aged man, who constantly hits on hot women. His baby sister Hima is also occasionally shown to find grown men attractive.
* It's downright creepy what children do in ''[[Naruto]]'', even moreso that nobody seems to care that the main basis of the story is using children as [[Child Soldier|Child Soldiers]] at the ripe old age of 12 until one of them goes half mad like Zabuza who [[Deadly Graduation|murders the entire graduating class of his school]] BEFORE he was even old enough to enroll.
* It's downright creepy what children do in ''[[Naruto]]'', even moreso that nobody seems to care that the main basis of the story is using children as [[Child Soldier]]s at the ripe old age of 12 until one of them goes half mad like Zabuza who [[Deadly Graduation|murders the entire graduating class of his school]] BEFORE he was even old enough to enroll.
** In the beginning Naruto himself is especially fond of doing inappropriate things like sneaking into girl's bathing rooms and turning himself into a naked blond girl for laughs.
** In the beginning Naruto himself is especially fond of doing inappropriate things like sneaking into girl's bathing rooms and turning himself into a naked blond girl for laughs.


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* ''[[Kids]]'' is almost entirely made of this + [[Refuge in Audacity]].
* ''[[Kids]]'' is almost entirely made of this + [[Refuge in Audacity]].
* In ''[[City of God]]'' Lil Dice {{spoiler|goes on a shooting spree in a hotel}}. Also, many children are involved in the gang war. (Horrifyingly enough, this is more or less [[Truth in Television]].)
* In ''[[City of God]]'' Lil Dice {{spoiler|goes on a shooting spree in a hotel}}. Also, many children are involved in the gang war. (Horrifyingly enough, this is more or less [[Truth in Television]].)
* In ''[[Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (film)|Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street]]'', the title character finds Toby easy to bribe with gin. As Toby tells Mrs. Lovett, they used to give the stuff to kids like him in the workhouse (child labor laws didn't exist way back when) so they could sleep -- though as he mentions, you wouldn't ever want to sleep there, "not with the things that happen in the dark."
* In ''[[Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street (film)|Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street]]'', the title character finds Toby easy to bribe with gin. As Toby tells Mrs. Lovett, they used to give the stuff to kids like him in the workhouse (child labor laws didn't exist way back when) so they could sleep—though as he mentions, you wouldn't ever want to sleep there, "not with the things that happen in the dark."
** Don't forget the ending, when he {{spoiler|coldly and quietly slits Sweeney's throat.}}
** Don't forget the ending, when he {{spoiler|coldly and quietly slits Sweeney's throat.}}
* ''[[Lawn Dogs]]'' has a lot of this. Not to mention some in the form of [[Corruption by a Minor]], as Devon manages to convince her adult friend to {{spoiler|steal chickens from a barn, and later, moon her father.}} And no, Devon is not portrayed as wise beyond her years either. She otherwise acts like a normal preteen girl, who happens to do some messed up stuff, in a realistically childish way.
* ''[[Lawn Dogs]]'' has a lot of this. Not to mention some in the form of [[Corruption by a Minor]], as Devon manages to convince her adult friend to {{spoiler|steal chickens from a barn, and later, moon her father.}} And no, Devon is not portrayed as wise beyond her years either. She otherwise acts like a normal preteen girl, who happens to do some messed up stuff, in a realistically childish way.
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** It quickly becomes obvious that while she fooled around a bit at summer camp, she's not really prepared for what she's getting into when she gives a grown (and rather disturbed) man the opportunity he's been waiting for.
** It quickly becomes obvious that while she fooled around a bit at summer camp, she's not really prepared for what she's getting into when she gives a grown (and rather disturbed) man the opportunity he's been waiting for.
* ''[[Gone (novel)]]'' , by Michael Grant, has this in spades. The entire cast is aged fifteen and under, and Sam and Lana both dwell on how disturbing it is to see young children drinking, smoking, and doing drugs. Not to mention the plentiful violence.
* ''[[Gone (novel)]]'' , by Michael Grant, has this in spades. The entire cast is aged fifteen and under, and Sam and Lana both dwell on how disturbing it is to see young children drinking, smoking, and doing drugs. Not to mention the plentiful violence.
* The ''[[Redwall]]'' series. Oh, Dark Forest Gates, the ''[[Redwall]]'' series. The titular first installment features a season-and-a-half year old squirrel -- described in the text as a baby and not talking yet -- who is personally responsible for the horrible deaths of ''at least'' ten vermin, and assists in the killing of many others by rolling a hedgehog over them ''in the middle of a battlefield''. He's also given a sharp dagger by a hare who thinks nothing unusual of a kid stabbing people with one hand and sucking the other. By comparison, the young, gangly teenager that goes on to see new friends and an adoptive father/Abbot poisoned to death, kills massive numbers of vermin, faces and decapitates a snake that could eat him alive, and comes plummeting from the top of an Abbey with a bird stuck in his shoulder, all by the age of thirteen seasons, seems almost reasonable. Oh, and gets married and has a son before he's sixteen seasons. Combines with [[Angst? What Angst?]]. This may have been intentional [[Values Dissonance]], as the series is set in pseudo-10th century England {{smallcaps|[[Furry Fandom|WITH FURRIES]]}}, but has been somewhat dialed down in the sequels... which still include the slavery of preteen children and [[Harmful to Minors|the murder of their slavers]].
* The ''[[Redwall]]'' series. Oh, Dark Forest Gates, the ''[[Redwall]]'' series. The titular first installment features a season-and-a-half year old squirrel—described in the text as a baby and not talking yet—who is personally responsible for the horrible deaths of ''at least'' ten vermin, and assists in the killing of many others by rolling a hedgehog over them ''in the middle of a battlefield''. He's also given a sharp dagger by a hare who thinks nothing unusual of a kid stabbing people with one hand and sucking the other. By comparison, the young, gangly teenager that goes on to see new friends and an adoptive father/Abbot poisoned to death, kills massive numbers of vermin, faces and decapitates a snake that could eat him alive, and comes plummeting from the top of an Abbey with a bird stuck in his shoulder, all by the age of thirteen seasons, seems almost reasonable. Oh, and gets married and has a son before he's sixteen seasons. Combines with [[Angst? What Angst?]]. This may have been intentional [[Values Dissonance]], as the series is set in pseudo-10th century England {{smallcaps|[[Furry Fandom|WITH FURRIES]]}}, but has been somewhat dialed down in the sequels... which still include the slavery of preteen children and [[Harmful to Minors|the murder of their slavers]].
* In the ''[[Green-Sky Trilogy]]'', [[Ill Girl|Pomma's]] addiction to [[Fantastic Drug|wissenberries]].
* In the ''[[Green-Sky Trilogy]]'', [[Ill Girl|Pomma's]] addiction to [[Fantastic Drug|wissenberries]].
* ''[[The Alienist]]'': multiple characters all over the novel.
* ''[[The Alienist]]'': multiple characters all over the novel.
* ''[[The Tomorrow Series]]'': Aside from the fact that the viewpoint characters are only 16 - 17 years old, and essentially learning to become guerrilla fighters as the series progresses, the group of kids living in Stratton are a more depressing version of the trope: by ''The Night Is For Hunting'', when the main characters meet them, they are well-accustomed to gunfights and mugging people in alleyways.
* ''[[The Tomorrow Series]]'': Aside from the fact that the viewpoint characters are only 16 17 years old, and essentially learning to become guerrilla fighters as the series progresses, the group of kids living in Stratton are a more depressing version of the trope: by ''The Night Is For Hunting'', when the main characters meet them, they are well-accustomed to gunfights and mugging people in alleyways.
* When [[The Dresden Files|the Archive (music)]] warns you that she will kill you if you challenge her authority or otherwise threaten her, [[Cute Bruiser|you'd]] [[Little Miss Badass|better]] ''[[Wise Beyond Their Years|believe]]'' [[Person of Mass Destruction|it]].
* When [[The Dresden Files|the Archive (music)]] warns you that she will kill you if you challenge her authority or otherwise threaten her, [[Cute Bruiser|you'd]] [[Little Miss Badass|better]] ''[[Wise Beyond Their Years|believe]]'' [[Person of Mass Destruction|it]].
** her bodyguard thinks it's creepier when she actually does act her age though.
** her bodyguard thinks it's creepier when she actually does act her age though.
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* In one episode of ''[[Bones]]'', the murderer turns out to be an 11-year-old girl, who shoots her tutor with a shotgun when he refuses to help her cheat on a school project.
* In one episode of ''[[Bones]]'', the murderer turns out to be an 11-year-old girl, who shoots her tutor with a shotgun when he refuses to help her cheat on a school project.
* ''[[CSI]]'' had one in the form of a 12 year old girl who was taking senior level high school courses. At her older brother's trial for murder of a classmate, she testifies that she's the real murderer and produces evidence to support her case. She pulls off the plan so well that she convinces the court that there is too much doubt to her brother's involvement (mainly, that he was a D student in chemistry and the murderer needed to know how to handle pure Sodium) and that there was too much doubt to convict her (she was too small to move the victim's body). As if that wasn't the worst of it, she says to Sarah that had she been convicted, she could get her degree by 18 and/or write a book about the crime, since Nevada has no "Son of Sam" law. Finally, it was revealed that {{spoiler|she had no involvement in the murder and Sarah just got played.}}
* ''[[CSI]]'' had one in the form of a 12 year old girl who was taking senior level high school courses. At her older brother's trial for murder of a classmate, she testifies that she's the real murderer and produces evidence to support her case. She pulls off the plan so well that she convinces the court that there is too much doubt to her brother's involvement (mainly, that he was a D student in chemistry and the murderer needed to know how to handle pure Sodium) and that there was too much doubt to convict her (she was too small to move the victim's body). As if that wasn't the worst of it, she says to Sarah that had she been convicted, she could get her degree by 18 and/or write a book about the crime, since Nevada has no "Son of Sam" law. Finally, it was revealed that {{spoiler|she had no involvement in the murder and Sarah just got played.}}
** It's even worse in the continued episode later on, when it's revealed her [[Yandere (disambiguation)]] fixation on her brother prompts her to murder his girlfriend and blame him for it. Her motivation is that it will [[Murder the Hypotenuse|get rid of any "obstacles between them"]] and that, by continuously visiting him while he's in prison, he'll fall in love with her.
** It's even worse in the continued episode later on, when it's revealed her [[:Category:Yandere|Yandere]] fixation on her brother prompts her to murder his girlfriend and blame him for it. Her motivation is that it will [[Murder the Hypotenuse|get rid of any "obstacles between them"]] and that, by continuously visiting him while he's in prison, he'll fall in love with her.
* ''[[Leverage]]'': Poor Parker. Mostly, it's played for laughs, but the ages at which she started committing various crimes is alarming. Car stealing at twelve, and getaway driving ''before'' that. Cut to a flashback of what looks like a nine year old Parker skidding around an old lady with a terrified robber in the passenger seat.
* ''[[Leverage]]'': Poor Parker. Mostly, it's played for laughs, but the ages at which she started committing various crimes is alarming. Car stealing at twelve, and getaway driving ''before'' that. Cut to a flashback of what looks like a nine year old Parker skidding around an old lady with a terrified robber in the passenger seat.
* In one episode of ''[[Grey's Anatomy|Greys Anatomy]]'', a man is brought into the hospital after supposedly being accidentally shot by his six-year-old daughter, using a gun that had been carelessly left outside. However, scans show that this man has been shot 17 times. When the daughter is questioned about the event, she asks why her father wouldn't just die, since she had shot him so many times. As it turns out, the girl and her mother had been putting up with severe abuse at the hand of the alcoholic father. The girl, seeing her father begin another attack on his wife, grabbed the gun (which had been left in an easily accessible place) and shot her father.
* In one episode of ''[[Grey's Anatomy|Greys Anatomy]]'', a man is brought into the hospital after supposedly being accidentally shot by his six-year-old daughter, using a gun that had been carelessly left outside. However, scans show that this man has been shot 17 times. When the daughter is questioned about the event, she asks why her father wouldn't just die, since she had shot him so many times. As it turns out, the girl and her mother had been putting up with severe abuse at the hand of the alcoholic father. The girl, seeing her father begin another attack on his wife, grabbed the gun (which had been left in an easily accessible place) and shot her father.
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== Video Games ==
== Video Games ==
* Sign on to any online shooter (preferably an [[Xbox 360]] shooter [[Rated "M" for Money]] and/or [[Rated "M" for Manly|Manly]] for maximum results) and prepare to be called a nigger, faggot, and just about any other offensive word you can think of by [[Internet Tough Guy|Internet Tough Guys]] 12 and under.
* Sign on to any online shooter (preferably an [[Xbox 360]] shooter [[Rated "M" for Money]] and/or [[Rated "M" for Manly|Manly]] for maximum results) and prepare to be called a nigger, faggot, and just about any other offensive word you can think of by [[Internet Tough Guy]]s 12 and under.
* Mildly done in ''[[Psychonauts]]''. The protagonist and his peers are all ten-year-olds, yet some of the kids have an odd fascination with hooking up and making out.
* Mildly done in ''[[Psychonauts]]''. The protagonist and his peers are all ten-year-olds, yet some of the kids have an odd fascination with hooking up and making out.
** Then there's Crystal and Clem. They're seen messing around with poison, and there's one scene where they talk about how everyone is "going to be sorry" in very somber monotones far divorced from their usual chirpy facade. It's never explicitly established what their end goal is, but a vague misunderstanding of what happened to Obi-Wan Kenobi seems to be involved.
** Then there's Crystal and Clem. They're seen messing around with poison, and there's one scene where they talk about how everyone is "going to be sorry" in very somber monotones far divorced from their usual chirpy facade. It's never explicitly established what their end goal is, but a vague misunderstanding of what happened to Obi-Wan Kenobi seems to be involved.
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* Spotted hyena cubs, the second they've exited the womb, tend to fight each other to the death, especially if they're the same sex. They've also been seen to try to "mock-mate" with each other. Yikes.
* Spotted hyena cubs, the second they've exited the womb, tend to fight each other to the death, especially if they're the same sex. They've also been seen to try to "mock-mate" with each other. Yikes.


=== Examples of kids trying out such troubling behavior for the first time: ===
=== Examples of kids trying out such troubling behavior for the first time ===


== [[Anime]]/[[Manga]] ==
== [[Anime]]/[[Manga]] ==