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Good guys, bad guys, [[Stuff Blowing Up|and explosions]] [[More Dakka|as far as the eye can see]]<br />

And [[There Can Be Only One|only one will survive]] I wonder who it will be<br />

{{quote|''"Can a [[Laser Blade|lightsaber]] cut through [[Superman]]?"''|[[Google]] autocomplete (There's also "Can a lightsaber cut through [[X-Men|adamantium]]?")}}

* ''[[Curb Stomp Battle|Curbstomp]]'': Similar to the original kind, only the thread creator, and most likely the general population of the board, knows full well (or at least believes) that one side has an overwhelming advantage. The purpose of this discussion is just ''how'' badly the underdog (who is usually considered unpopular, often to [[The Scrappy]] level, on that board) is going to get slaughtered.

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'''Four TV series have been based on this concept so far.'''

* Spike Tv's ''[[Deadliest Warrior]]'', which explores "history's greatest killing machines", look at their historic backgrounds and the science behind their equipment and fighting styles, and pair them off in a one-on-one computer simulated fight. Showdowns include "Gladiator vs. Apache", "Ninja vs. Spartan", "Taliban vs. IRA", "Yakuza vs. Mafia", and "William Wallace vs. Shaka Zulu".

* History Channel's ''Jurassic Fight Club'', similar to ''Deadliest Warrior'' in that it uses best available knowledge to establish the abilities, strengths, and weaknesses of the animals, then CGIs the actual fights. Match-ups include Allosaurus vs. Ceratosaurus; Mega-Lion vs. the Short-Faced Bear; and Megalodon vs. Brygmophyseter, the "biting sperm whale".

'''The concept has also been used in:'''

* ''[[Will It Blend]]'': Anything, at all, versus a Blend-Tec blender.

* ''Anachronism'': A card game that lets you pit various historical (or somewhat historical, like [[Robin Hood]]) characters against each other. For more fun, trade the character's goodies around -- give Achilles Beowulf's chain mail and Miyamoto's katana.

* ''[[Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus]]''.

** ... [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LpjxWF7C6E Vs. R. Lee Ermey.] {{spoiler|With a cameo from [[Billy Mays]].}}

* the Race Of Champions (ROC), an annual event which involves taking the best racing drivers from their repsective fields and different nationalities, putting two of them into 100% indentical cars and having them race head to head on a very short twisty track for 2 laps.

* ''[[The Spoony Experiment]]'' had ''[http://spoonyexperiment.com/2010/12/05/the-deadliest-character/ Deadliest Character]'', a direct take-off of the aforementioned ''[[Deadliest Warrior]]'', featuring the [[Power Rangers|Megazord]] vs. Mecha[[Godzilla]]. {{spoiler|1=Megazord wins by summoning [[The Sixth Ranger]] and tearing MechaGodzilla apart}}.

* The children's book "Shark vs. Train", which takes the more common sense approach, with hilarious results (it matters, for instance, whether the competition is under water, or involves trying to sell lemonade.)

* In 1953's ''Jungle Drums'', a wilderness-adventure film crew stages a fight between a tiger and a lion.

* The entire gag underlying ''[[Bambi Meets Godzilla]]''.

== Canon ==

** Dracula vs. Superman also happened. By hypnotizing Lois Dracula actually gained the upper hand and succeeded in drinking Superman's blood (Assume that as a magical creature Superman is vulnerable to that). However, Superman is solar powered, and seconds after drinking his blood well... [[Your Head Asplode|imagine eating a grenade]].

*** Which is technically inaccurate, since Stoker's Dracula wasn't destroyed by sunlight, just weakened.

* One of the best was ''[[Justice League of America|JLA]]''/''[[The Avengers (Comic Book)|Avengers]]'', written by [[Kurt Busiek]]. Highlights include:

** Batman and Captain America facing off until they realize that they're equally matched and that someone is pulling both teams' chains. Then they leave to find out who. [[Memetic Badass|At this point you realize there's nothing the]] [[Big Bad]] [[Memetic Badass|can do, as he's screwed]].

*** Writers are notoriously loathe to decide the Batman vs. Captain America contest. Not only here, but in the Batman/Captain America crossover by [[John Byrne]], the two team up instead of fight. (They were also the 1940s incarnations of the respective characters.) And in the aforementioned ''DC vs. Marvel'', they're about to team up again when Cap is temporarily immobilized by a river of sewage, giving Batman a technical victory.

** And "Doomsday" brings the fight people had been wanting for ''decades''; Daleks vs Cybermen.

** The novel "All-Consuming Fire" had Sherlock Holmes and the seventh Doctor square off with the Cthulhu Mythos.

* [[MUGEN]] is a custom [[Fighting Game]] system which allows characters from different fighting games to battle aginast each other. It's gotten popular on [[YouTube]], especially Perfect Cell vs. Dio Brando, where Dio wins using his famous steam roller attack.

* ''[[Dissidia Final Fantasy]]'' does this for the various heroes and villains of multiple ''[[Final Fantasy]]'' titles. [[Final Fantasy VII|Cloud]] vs. [[Final Fantasy IX|Zidane]], [[Final Fantasy IV|Cecil]] vs. [[Final Fantasy X|Tidus]], [[Final Fantasy VII|Sephiroth]] vs. [[Final Fantasy VI|Kefka]], [[Final Fantasy X|Jecht]] vs. [[Final Fantasy IX|Kuja]]... the possibilities abound.

* Spoofed in a recurring ''[[Saturday Night Live]]'' sketch in which George Wendt leads a cadre of football fans who speculate on the scores of hypothetical games pitting the Chicago Bears against other teams, with the Bears facing increasingly unlikely handicaps, such as being shrunk to the size of midgets. (Hint: Da Bears win.)

** Alternatively, The Detroit Red Wings vs. the Swedish Olympic team. Almost half the roster is the same.

* Kristofer Straub, the author of ''[[Starslip Crisis]]'', has challenged ''all sci-fi [[Web Comics]]'' to enter their respective ships in ''The Alterverse War'', where they will battle each other.

** Of course, ''GX'' tried to satisfy that first one with Judai dueling against Yugi's deck (stolen by a fellow student adept at copying other duelists), and barely won. However, it was pointed out that, since this was just an imitator, it doesn't necessarily make him better.

*** {{spoiler|The final GX episode had an actual Yugi/Judai duel. It's implied that Yugi won, though we don't see the end results of the Osiris/Neos clash.}}

* One of the odder comic book examples: [http://www.dialbforblog.com/archives/315/ Superman vs. Muhammad Ali]

** You don't know the half of it. I provide for your amusement: [http://superdickery.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category=blog&id=29&Itemid=46&limitstart=259 Santa Claus vs THe Incredible Hulk] and [http://superdickery.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=category&layout=blog&id=29&Itemid=46&limitstart=260 Santa Claus vs the Iron Man] When you see Cringle pull out a submachine gun on the Man O' Iron, you know that [[A Worldwide Punomenon|Ho-Ho-Homicide]] is about to happen. As for pulling a crowbar out on the Hulk....

** It should be noted that there were several Aliens vs. Predator games and comics long before the movie was even thought of.

*** And then there's the Alien vs. Predator vs. The Terminator comics.

** Memorable reversal: the short film ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VujzyznQ4eE Son of Bambi vs. Godzilla]''.

*** How about ''[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oCF-QFuoYs Godzilla vs. Charles Barkley]''.

* Koei released a game entitled ''[[Warriors Orochi]]'', which amounts to a crossover between their (Three Kingdoms China) ''[[Dynasty Warriors]]'' and (Sengoku Japan) ''[[Samurai Warriors]]'' franchises. Much of the plot deals with this, such as Lu Bu's hunt for Samurai Warriors equivalent Honda.

* [[Jet Li]] vs. [[Jackie Chan]]. Fortunately, we had ''[[The Forbidden Kingdom]]'' to answer this question for us. Unfortunately, it was a draw.

** Jet Li has gone on record as saying that in a no holds barred fight, Jackie would wipe the floor with him.

* The original series of ''[[Star Trek]]'' had an episode in which aliens set up an Ultimate Showdown: Kirk, Spock, Abraham Lincoln, and Surak versus Colonel Green, Kahless, Zora, and [[Genghis Khan]].

** As well in the movie [[Star Trek]] Generations, Kirk meets Picard. And the fans went nuts..

* Generally agreed to be what makes ''[[Soul Calibur]] 3'' and 4's Create-A-Soul feature so much fun.

* In an episode of ''[[Angel]]'', Wesley walks into Angel's office to discover that Angel and Spike have been arguing vehemently over who would win if astronauts and cavemen got into a fight. Unfortunately, [[Tear Jerker|the events of the episode]] prevent them from reaching a conclusion...although Whedon's [[Dysfunction Junction|general storytelling method]] and some dialogue in the episode hints on where his money, though not his heart, is: cavemen, i.e. [[Crapsack World|humanity's barbarousness and savagery can and do defeat reason or higher ideals]].

{{quote| '''Fred''': Cavemen win, of course cavemen win.}}

* ''[[Kamen Rider Decade]]'' does this for its own franchise. The plot requires the titular Rider to travel to [[Alternate Universe]] versions of the nine previous ''[[Kamen Rider]]'' series in order to stop a cataclysm of multiversal proportions. Thanks to his [[Power Copying]] ability, Decade can take on the form and powers of the last nine hero Riders, allowing matchups that couldn't happen even with the series' concept, such as Kuuga vs. Kiva, Kiva vs. Knight and so on. As the protagonist, Decade is naturally going to win, but apparently the staff thought that using [[Alternate Universe]] versions of these shows would allow fans to say "Decade can beat this new Kuuga, but the real Yuusuke would give him a run for his money." [[Unpleasable Fanbase|Didn't work]].

* Pretty much the premise of ''[[Heroscape]]''. So far, the only copyrighted characters they have managed to aquire are from the Marvel Universe, but they've got enough obvious [[Expy|expies]] to make up for it.

* 1906: ''[[Arsène Lupin]] vs. [[Sherlock Holmes]]'', by Lupin's author Maurice Leblanc, as an [[Affectionate Parody]]. Soon afterwards, Arthur Conan Doyle complained and, from the following edition onwards, the story became ''Arsène Lupin vs. [[Writing Around Trademarks|Herlock Sholmes]]'' (or, in some versions, "Holmlock Shears").

* This was the whole concept of ''[[King of Fighters]]''. People from ''Fatal Fury'' fighting against ''Art of Fighting'' characters.

** And [[Capcom vs. Whatever]] games.

* Done in-verse with the ''[[NCIS]]'' team. They like to discuss [[Badass|Gibbs]] vs. all comers. They pretty much decide that the best fight would be Gibbs vs Gibbs.

* In a short story from the ''Wolf & Raven'' anthology for [[Shadowrun]], it's revealed that professional baseball in the Sixth World has become an exercise in this trope, with skillwired players' performance being dictated by software that makes them play exactly like historical star players. Thus, each season sees matchups like Babe Ruth vs. Mark McGuire, or even Babe Ruth from 1923 vs. Babe Ruth from 1927.

* An [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EiM8Pa91SQ episode] of ''[[The Annoying Orange]]'' featured [http://www.youtube.com/leprechaun Liam the Leprechaun] forcing the orange to see if he was more annoying than [[Fred]]. {{spoiler|It appeared to end in a stalemate, but Fred got the last laugh.}}

* Alonso Quijano and his friends [[Those Two Guys|the curate and the barber]] were [[Fan Boy|victims of this phenomenon]]… Keep in mind this book was written [[Older Than Steam|more than four hundred years ago!]] At chapter I Part I we learn that:

{{quote| ''" Many an argument did he have with the curate of his village (a learned man, and a graduate of Siguenza) as to which had been the better knight, [[Weird Al Effect|Palmerin of England]] or [[Incorruptible Pure Pureness|Amadis of Gaul]]. [[Unpleasable Fanbase|Master Nicholas, the village barber, however, used to say that neither of them came up to]] [[Dark Horse Victory|the Knight of Phoebus]], and that if there was any that could compare with him it was [[Ensemble Darkhorse|Don Galaor, the brother of Amadis of Gaul]], because he had a spirit that was equal to every occasion, and was no finikin knight, [[Never Live It Down|nor lachrymose like his brother]], while in the matter of valour he was not a whit behind him."''}}

* ''[[Ip Man]]'' films are largely an excuse for <Insert fighting style here> vs. Wing Chun duels.

{{quote| '''Willis:''' I'll get back to you on this.}}

* [[Those Two Guys|21 and 24]] on [[The Venture Brothers]] often get into arguments about hypothetical fights such as Champ vs. Nessie or [[Crosses the Line Twice|Lizzie Borden vs. Anne Frank]].

** It's worth noting that the story of ''how'' Kasumi became God and several other plot points such as Dark Sakura originated from MTCFF '''Beta''' which was a single-elimination tournament decided by votes rather than by individual authors, with such oddities as [[Fusion Dance|Fusion character]] "Nario" resulting from Naru of [[Battle Arena Toshinden]] and Mario of [[Super Mario Brothers]] tying in votes.

* "Hitler continued laughing, then finally said 'Goku! You came here expecting to find a madman, but instead, you found a GOD!' Hitler had become a Super Saiyan." How's that for a [[Crack Fic]]-style showdown? See it [http://smallcave.net/goferchan/afgoku01.html right] [http://smallcave.net/goferchan/afgoku02.html here] in all its Not Safe For Sanity glory. By the way, it also [[Shipping|ships]] Goku x Anne Frank.

* [http://www.rpgdl.com/ The RPG Duelling League] is a site dedicating to deciding which [[Video Game]] RPG characters would win in a fight. The site is organized into 6 week long elimination tournaments (refered to as seasons) with four different [[Character Tiers]] (Light, Middle, Heavy, and Godlike). The voters who decide who wins are also ''strongly'' encouraged '''NOT''' to vote according to [[Popularity Power|popularity]] or [[Gameplay and Story Segregation|plot powers]], but rather comparative in-battle capabilities and performance.

* Whosthebitch.com was the HQ for a fun and easy game; simply match any two given personalities (or even inanimate objects) and answer the question, "Who's the bitch?" Basically pick which one would be the 'bottom' in a relationship between the two, and justify your answer with an explanation.

* [http://www.factpile.com/ Factpile] mostly runs on this trope. It has branched out to include other topics, but is still mostly battles between fictional characters. It has also determined the outcome of the page image {{spoiler|Superman easily wins.}}

* [[Make Your Move]] applies this to [[Super Smash Bros]] with movesets for everything from King K. Rool to Socrates.

* This is what the [[Outskirts Battle Dome]] is for.

* The [[Deadliest Fiction Wiki]] is basically this, using the formula from Deadliest Warrior, but for warriors of any media and franchise, with the warriors chosen by logical (usually) debates from the members of the site. It's essentially [[The Wiki Rule]] for [[Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny]].