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**** First of all, Nate is not, and can never be, a Badass Normal because there are no superheroes in his universe. <ref> Badass Normals can only exist in a world where superpowered, magical, etc. characters are commonly known. [[Batman]] is a Badass Normal because, in his world, there are superpowered characters such as Superman and Poison Ivy. However, in ''[[Kick-Ass]]'', Kick-Ass and Hit Girl are not Badass Normals because no one has superpowers in that world; everyone just went through a lot of training.</ref> Second, I have no problem with him being a [[Badass]]; it's Naughty Dog ''claiming'' he's normal that I have a problem with. That and the [[Action Survivor]] trope on the page, which is what ND says he is.
***** I don't think the attitude is anything to do with Drake's abilities, but his persona and outlook. He's not a grizzled commando or war hero, he's a pretty ordinary guy who himself seems incredulous at what is happening around him. It's not so much that he's "SO NORMAL", it's just that he is compared to most recent videogame heroes. The one flaw is that he guns down thousands of Mooks without batting an eyelid, but really, that's an acceptable side-effect of it being a third-person shooter, and ''Among Thieves'' likes to remind us that while Drake may be "normal", it doesn't necessarily make him "good" in the usual sense.
****** But ND frequently focuses on his abilities. And just because he can mow down mooks without blinking an eye doesn't mean it's necessary for a good shooter. In ''[[Iji (Video Game)|Iji]]'', the titular character starts sounding a bit crazy after killing enough bad guys, and it's still a good game. [[Max Payne (Video Gameseries)|Max Payne]] also incurs psychological damage over the days his game takes place (or so I heard). The main character in ''[[Shadow Complex]]'' even has military training, and still ponders the morality of killing mooks. They just need to remove Drake's [[Bond One-Liner|Bond One Liners]], and I'll take his persona as normal - if killing people is routine enough to joke about, well... But like I said, it's more ND's attitude towards him than the character himself - one liners aside, he's still pretty close to normal.
****** ''Iji'' isn't exactly the best example because it's making a ''point'' of not forcing you to kill mooks - it ties into the game's overall themes of violence bgetting violence and so on. ''Uncharted'' is more an adventure story; death-defying escapes, spectacular action, explosions, treasure, attractive people doing dangerous things, etcetera. I don't think it would do much for the atmosphere if Drake started having a genuine, realistically depicted psychological breakdown.
****** Nate's normal in the sense that someone like [[Die Hard (Film)|John McClane]] is normal. They're tough, in-shape guys that would much rather be somewhere else. They snark to take the massive pressure of combat off themselves. They're normal in overall outlook and in every day life, but exceptional when the shit hits the fan. In other words, normal is their default mode....until you start chucking hand grenades at them.
* Nate's attitude toward Chloe in the second half of the game makes no sense. She pretends to be on Lazarevic's side to cover them, but when Lazarevic and Flynn walk in on her ''holding a gun on Nate's group'' (to cover for them, but the bad guys don't know that) and take her to the train, Nate thinks from some reason that she's being held prisoner and immediately risks ''everything'' to try to save her. Even a moron could tell that she was just playing along! Then, at the monastery, he runs into her again, still playing along. She claims that she didn't know they were there and is just trying to save herself (pretty obvious), and yet Nate still treats her like crap until she gives him the dagger. This is the dagger she ''needs'' to find the secret door with to live, so Nate's possibly sending her to her death without it. Pretty nice and observant guy, ain't he?
** When she's taken on the train, it's implied pretty heavily that Flynn has figured out she's betrayed him and is working with Nathan. IIRC this is confirmed when you find her on the train and she is being treated significantly worse by Flynn than she was during the opening portions of the game.
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*** Perhaps Lazarevic hired his private army out to one side or another as a cover. Possibly to the Nepalese government to put down the rebels.
**** Imagine the government's reaction in that situation; it's not like he can brush off everything as collateral damage:
{{quote| '''Nepal:''' "Hey, thanks for offering to fight the rebels with us, that's a big- '''''WHY ARE YOU DESTROYING OUR CAPITAL?!'''''"<br />
'''Lazarevic:''' "Um... I want shiny?" }}
***** The Nepalese military *REEEAAAALLLY* is not the world's finest, to put it generously. They were stalemated and arguably *lost* a ten year war against Maoist guerrillas who were largely operating off of table scraps and what they could seize (and the occasional aid from [[Red China]] and India's [[Dirty Communists|Naxalites]] that nobody wants to acknowledge) when they themselves were equipped with aid from the better chunk of the Western world for starters. In addition, as far as armed forces go, they're rather small even for the country's size, at less than 100,00, of which 40,000 aren't regulars, all of whom are of uneven quality from battle-hardened veterans of said 10-year civil war to "very green" to "worse than very green". Lazarevic's army doesn't have to be *large*, all it has to be is comparatively high quality in personnel and equipment and with the proper preparation. If Lazarevic restarts the old civil war and forces the government to commit most of its' troops out to the outlying countryside *like they did during the war with the Maoists*, he can probably waltz in fairly easily and occupy a large section of the capital and resist any attempts to dislodge him by either side unless they were willing to take punishing if not crippling losses to do it (and thus open themselves up to exploitation by their native enemy). If he guards his territory fairly well and acts relatively unambitiously (basically, what he is: a looter looking for goodies rather than some filibuster trying to take the country over), it's quite possible the government and their enemies (be they Maoist or otherwise) would judge that they have bigger fish to fry and assume they can deal with him once the situation's stabilized enough that they can free up enough men to evict an elite mercenary army from their capital. TL;DR: Lazarevic doesn't have to destroy the Nepalese military or government. All he has to do is beat them up enough until they are forced to fully commit themselves to the civil war and leave him alone, something he can *probably* do. Add *that* to potential covers like signing on officially with one sides (and remember: they only can't prove it's collateral damage if somebody witnesses it, which given [[Complete Monster|Lazarevic]] is... [[Leave No Survivors|unlikely.]]