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** That explains how the opening black-and-white footage in the opening resembles the one from ''The Incredibles'', and the similar "secret wilderness adventure" setup. |
** That explains how the opening black-and-white footage in the opening resembles the one from ''The Incredibles'', and the similar "secret wilderness adventure" setup. |
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*** Perhaps Helen Parr was part of Ellie's extended family somewhere. Definite resemblance between the two. |
*** Perhaps Helen Parr was part of Ellie's extended family somewhere. Definite resemblance between the two. |
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** Alternatively, Muntz has some sort of brain-power based power, which would explain how he was able to build mind reading talking dog collars out of 1940's tech, and possibly also why he's [[Heroes (TV)|gone round the bend...]] |
** Alternatively, Muntz has some sort of brain-power based power, which would explain how he was able to build mind reading talking dog collars out of 1940's tech, and possibly also why he's [[Heroes (TV series)|gone round the bend...]] |
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** Ellie looked like the babysitter. |
** Ellie looked like the babysitter. |
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*** And, during the "Through the City" montage, the family of three looking at reflections in a skyscraper window resemble Violet Parr (with brown hair) and the dude she had a crush on. Violet's hair seemed like an unnatural colour even for the Incredible's style, and it's plausible it was dyed, [[Broad Strokes|because that's what shy teenage girls do]]. It's also entirely possible that she grew up, married Dude (I don't remember his name, it was Dan or something) and had a kid. |
*** And, during the "Through the City" montage, the family of three looking at reflections in a skyscraper window resemble Violet Parr (with brown hair) and the dude she had a crush on. Violet's hair seemed like an unnatural colour even for the Incredible's style, and it's plausible it was dyed, [[Broad Strokes|because that's what shy teenage girls do]]. It's also entirely possible that she grew up, married Dude (I don't remember his name, it was Dan or something) and had a kid. |
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** We know Titanis turned out to not have wing claws since 2006. [[This Is Sparta|STOP. FAILING.]] [[Punctuated for Emphasis|ORNITHOLOGY. FOREVER!]] |
** We know Titanis turned out to not have wing claws since 2006. [[This Is Sparta|STOP. FAILING.]] [[Punctuated for Emphasis|ORNITHOLOGY. FOREVER!]] |
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== The movie takes place in the [[ |
== The movie takes place in the [[New World of Darkness]], and it's a story about [[Genius: The Transgression|Geniuses]]. == |
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Carl is a Staunen Navigator with two dots in Skafoi. Muntz is an unmada. Russel is either a Beholden or a particularly young Genius. The dogs aren't in fact made smart by the collars, but are Automata 4 constructs. So we come to the conclusion that Paradise Falls is a bardo. |
Carl is a Staunen Navigator with two dots in Skafoi. Muntz is an unmada. Russel is either a Beholden or a particularly young Genius. The dogs aren't in fact made smart by the collars, but are Automata 4 constructs. So we come to the conclusion that Paradise Falls is a bardo. |
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* Uh... Can we set it in [[Mage: The Ascension |
* Uh... Can we set it in [[Mage: The Ascension|the Old World of Darkness]] instead? That would make Carl a Son of Ether instead, probably Awakened by contact with Ellie (who was so obviously an Adventurer-type Etherite), and he and Russel and Dug can explore a happy '50s sci-fi universe. You know, with a severely downplayed likelihood of psychosis. |
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** ...can Muntz be a dupe who got all his gear from [[Werewolf: The Apocalypse |
** ...can Muntz be a dupe who got all his gear from [[Werewolf: The Apocalypse|Pentex]]? Paradise Falls looks like the kind of place they like to break up for parts and sell off. |
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* [[Changeling: The Dreaming |
* [[Changeling: The Dreaming|The Old World of Darkness, you say?]] Gather, childlings, and hear the tale of the great nocker Carl, the kinain Russel, and the chimeras Dug and Kevin, and how they did battle with Banality by venturing forth into the Dreaming and reclaiming the lost Mobile Freehold of Adventure's Soul. Our story begins with Carl loosing his house from the Earth's bonds with a cantrip and riding the winds of mortal disbelief out of this darkened world, but it should properly start with the tales of the then-Seelie eshu Muntz he followed as a childling... |
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** You see, in the time before the Resurgence, Charles Muntz was a pioneer of Imagination-- But as time passed and the domain of Science grew, Muntz became obsessed with "proving" the Dreaming to a world that was losing interest. He vanished into the Far Dreaming while Carl was still a child; yet Carl found wonder in the True Dreamer Eleanor and her pure heart. But once his beloved was lost Carl sank quickly into a Grump's state of mind. Resolving to emulate his lost idol and bid farewell to a world nearing Endless Winter, Carl cast off from the Waking World in an explosion of mechanical Glamour... accidentally drawing young Russel, a kinain whose dreams were strong despite his mundane surroundings, along with him. |
** You see, in the time before the Resurgence, Charles Muntz was a pioneer of Imagination-- But as time passed and the domain of Science grew, Muntz became obsessed with "proving" the Dreaming to a world that was losing interest. He vanished into the Far Dreaming while Carl was still a child; yet Carl found wonder in the True Dreamer Eleanor and her pure heart. But once his beloved was lost Carl sank quickly into a Grump's state of mind. Resolving to emulate his lost idol and bid farewell to a world nearing Endless Winter, Carl cast off from the Waking World in an explosion of mechanical Glamour... accidentally drawing young Russel, a kinain whose dreams were strong despite his mundane surroundings, along with him. |
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*** In conjunction with the WMG of Russel being Short Round's grandson, this means that Short Round himself was either a Nocker or - more likely - he too was a kinain, under the guidance of [[Indiana Jones]], Archeologist Eshu! |
*** In conjunction with the WMG of Russel being Short Round's grandson, this means that Short Round himself was either a Nocker or - more likely - he too was a kinain, under the guidance of [[Indiana Jones]], Archeologist Eshu! |
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== Alpha has a prototype collar originally made for communication efforts in the [[World War II|European War]]. Dug has one of the most recent designs. == |
== Alpha has a prototype collar originally made for communication efforts in the [[World War II|European War]]. Dug has one of the most recent designs. == |
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Alpha's grammar often slips into vaguely French or German [[As Long |
Alpha's grammar often slips into vaguely French or German [[As Long as It Sounds Foreign|character]] syntax, has that loose wire which was never permanently fixed, and even his "regular" voice is poorly synthesized. Beta's seems to work consistently, and can convey more emotion, but still has a stronger "as heard via radio" sound than most of the other dogs (much less than Alpha's, though). Dug's works perfectly, with several accents and presumably jargon vocabularies as well as a Japanese vocabulary. Muntz didn't invent the collars himself prior to his adventure, he took the first collar (either bought, stole, or took off the corpse of an intruder male man), made more, and slowly refined the technology (possibly adapting them for canine use, if necessary, and if they were originally meant for humans). |
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== Muntz is only ten years older than Carl == |
== Muntz is only ten years older than Carl == |
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* [[Word of God]] says that both his look and personality was meant to evoke what their hypothetical child might have been like, and doesn't this theory just make the whole story even [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming|more heartwarming]]? |
* [[Word of God]] says that both his look and personality was meant to evoke what their hypothetical child might have been like, and doesn't this theory just make the whole story even [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming|more heartwarming]]? |
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== Russell is the grandchild of [[Temple of Doom |
== Russell is the grandchild of [[Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom|Short Round]]. == |
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He's a short, adventure-loving Asian kid. Why not? |
He's a short, adventure-loving Asian kid. Why not? |
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