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Examples of [[{{TOPLEVELPAGE}}]] in [[{{SUBPAGENAME}}]] include:
* The ''D'Artagnan'' Romances, better known as ''[[The Three Musketeers (novel)|The Three Musketeers]]'' and its sequels, feature characters who routinely commit adultery in pursuit of wealth or advantage, shamelessly mock the least intelligent among them, and commit high treason several times a novel-and those are the protagonists. The books being historical fiction, the author himself lampshades it as an example of people behaving differently in the old days (in a way that's inspired suspicion that he was mocking people who behaved that way in his own time).▼
* American fans of [[Terry Pratchett]] have a more lukewarm response when it comes to ''[[Discworld/Men At Arms|Men At Arms]]'', a book with an anti-gun message.▼
== ''[[Discworld]]'' ==
▲* American fans of [[Terry Pratchett]] have a more lukewarm response when it comes to ''[[
** [[Alan Moore]] even commented on this sort of thing, basically saying that "Americans are fine if you point out that they're racist or sexist but God forbid you say anything about their guns!"
*** People get upset about being accused of things that they're not, but they get even more upset at being lectured to do things that they don't want to do.
* If the ''[[Discworld]]'' novel ''[[
** On the other hand, ''[[
** Vimes' objections to the one-shot, spring loaded tube crossbow are more on the line that it is designed to be hidden, unlike a sword or a regular crossbow, and therefore it is an assassin's weapon. [[Magnificent Bastard|Vetinari]], on the other hand, does his best to get rid of firearms because they are ''too powerful''.
** The Assassins' Guild is apparently even more strict on the subject of the tube crossbow than the Watch, as noted by Inigo's line:<br />''If you ever catch anyone with one of these in Ankh-Morpork, your grace, mhm, they will ''still'' be lucky that the Assassins' Guild didn't find them first, mmph.''
*** Given that the above statement was made by an Assassins' Guild member, who was himself carrying such an implement ''outside of'' Ankh-Morpork, the Guild's stance may be more a matter of maintaining their monopoly on in-city assassinations than one of values. If ''any'' two-bit oik can pull out a spring-gonne and waste someone from a dark alley, how can they keep up their pose of elite respectability?
== Other works ==
▲* The ''D'Artagnan'' Romances, better known as ''[[The Three Musketeers (novel)|The Three Musketeers]]'' and its sequels, feature characters who routinely commit adultery in pursuit of wealth or advantage, shamelessly mock the least intelligent among them, and commit high treason several times a novel-and those are the protagonists. The books being historical fiction, the author himself lampshades it as an example of people behaving differently in the old days (in a way that's inspired suspicion that he was mocking people who behaved that way in his own time).
* A kind of subtle example can be found in English classrooms everywhere that read books like ''[[The Adventures of Tom Sawyer]]'' or other novels from earlier time periods that depict boys engaging in activities that nowadays many would consider "gay." Despite their more "manly" activities like playing at wargames or going exploring, whenever young male characters go swimming naked together or engaging in an emotional connection of any kind that doesn't revolve around anger, the eyebrows raise and the children (mostly boys) start wondering if they were a little gay.
** Not to mention Tom talks about having "orgies" while playing robbers and Huckleberry Finn calling it [[Have a Gay Old Time|"gay"]].
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** On the other hand, the book series is actually quite [[Fair for Its Day]] regarding topics such as feminism. The Land of Oz is ruled by four women and a man in the first book, and the women are portrayed as equally likely to be Wicked as they are to be Good. Female characters that appear later on range from good to bad on the morality spectrum, and each and every one of the characters, female or not, are different and varied characters. Same goes for the male characters; they are all equally as likely to be good characters as they are to be bad characters, and just as varied as the females.
* ''[[Father Brown]]'': This article published at the Golden Age of Detective Fiction Forum [http://gadetection.wordpress.com/2008/05/18/the-sins-of-the-saint-racism-in-gk-chesterton/ The Sins of the Saint: Racism in GK Chesterton] written by a Chesterton fan, analyzes 15 Father Brown’s tales that seem to contain this and absolves some of [[Unfortunate Implications]]… and others not. It also points that a lot of classic authors of [[Detective Literature]] ([[Agatha Christie]], McDonald, Burton Stevenson) also had racist views, and he asks the reader to take in mind the purpose of the work (they were not racist propaganda, but [[Detective Literature]]).
* ''[[Mario and the Magician]]'' contains this [[In-Universe]] as well as outside with the the beach scene: when the narrators 8 years old daughter get naked for a few seconds, the Italians reac with rage, whistling and treat this as personal insult. The narrator considers his daughter's behaviour fully normal, and is disgusted by Italians' raction. Of course, the issue of public nudity remainds highly contested to this day.
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