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* In ''[[Ganbare Goemon|The Legend of the Mystical Ninja]]'', attacking innocent people in towns will cause a swarm of angry guards to assault you. They will keep spawning unless you leave the area.
* In ''[[Ganbare Goemon|The Legend of the Mystical Ninja]]'', attacking innocent people in towns will cause a swarm of angry guards to assault you. They will keep spawning unless you leave the area.
* In ''[[Tomb Raider]] II'', attacking the Tibetan warrior monks in the Barkhang Monastery will result in ''every single monk in the entire level'' going for Lara's blood - and it can be easily done if the player is simply trying to help the monks out in their fights against [[Big Bad|Bartoli's]] [[Mook|mooks]] and accidentally target a monk instead of a gunman. They aren't hard to kill, but since there's so many of them it can be easy to become overpowered.
* In ''[[Tomb Raider]] II'', attacking the Tibetan warrior monks in the Barkhang Monastery will result in ''every single monk in the entire level'' going for Lara's blood - and it can be easily done if the player is simply trying to help the monks out in their fights against [[Big Bad|Bartoli's]] [[Mook|mooks]] and accidentally target a monk instead of a gunman. They aren't hard to kill, but since there's so many of them it can be easy to become overpowered.
* Sort of a minor one in the [[Nintendo DS]] version of ''Lego Batman'': Once you unlock Alfred as a character, he'll usually be peaceably standing around as an NPC in the batcave. You can attack him, but once you do, he'll come after you with a bat.
* Sort of a minor one in the [[Nintendo DS]] version of ''Lego Batman'': Once you unlock Alfred as a character, he'll usually be peaceably standing around as an NPC in the batcave. You can attack him, but once you do, he'll come after you with a bat.




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* In the [[Homestar Runner]] game ''[[Peasant's Quest|Peasants Quest]]'', attempting to attack the horse will result in you getting killed. You still have to {{spoiler|spook him}} to progress, though.
* In the [[Homestar Runner]] game ''[[Peasant's Quest|Peasants Quest]]'', attempting to attack the horse will result in you getting killed. You still have to {{spoiler|spook him}} to progress, though.
** Lowering the baby down the well and then leaving the screen would kill you. The game doesn't even bother with an explanation, it's just so disgusted with you that it won't let you play any more. Throwing the baby in the lake does not have this consequence, but only because he's an amazingly skilled swimmer for his age.
** Lowering the baby down the well and then leaving the screen would kill you. The game doesn't even bother with an explanation, it's just so disgusted with you that it won't let you play any more. Throwing the baby in the lake does not have this consequence, but only because he's an amazingly skilled swimmer for his age.
* In [[Deja Vu]], shooting any person besides one specific NPC results in either the cops [[Nonstandard Game Over|hauling you off]] or your intended victim being faster on the draw.
* In [[Deja Vu]], shooting any person besides one specific NPC results in either the cops [[Nonstandard Game Over|hauling you off]] or your intended victim being faster on the draw.




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* While Duke Nukem can kill lap-dancers in ''[[Duke Nukem 3D]]'', his reward is only to get more enemies to spawn.
* While Duke Nukem can kill lap-dancers in ''[[Duke Nukem 3D]]'', his reward is only to get more enemies to spawn.
* ''[[Operation Flashpoint]]'' is a bit more lenient than most: you can "accidentally" kill one or two of your teammates during a firefight before the rest gun you down, but if there are no enemies nearby when you kill a teammate, you're as good as dead.
* ''[[Operation Flashpoint]]'' is a bit more lenient than most: you can "accidentally" kill one or two of your teammates during a firefight before the rest gun you down, but if there are no enemies nearby when you kill a teammate, you're as good as dead.
* In ''SWAT 3'', your fellow officers will immediately shoot you if you kill any of them.
* In ''SWAT 3'', your fellow officers will immediately shoot you if you kill any of them.
** In [[SWAT 4]], you can fail the mission by shooting ''the bad guys'' too much or without warning.
** In [[SWAT 4]], you can fail the mission by shooting ''the bad guys'' too much or without warning.
* If you shoot an instructor in ''America's Army,'' it teleports you to a Leavenworth jail cell in a [[Nonstandard Game Over]].
* If you shoot an instructor in ''America's Army,'' it teleports you to a Leavenworth jail cell in a [[Nonstandard Game Over]].
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== Grand Strategy ==
== Grand Strategy ==
* Games produced by Paradox Interactive actively encourage you to be ruthless and kill people.
* Games produced by Paradox Interactive actively encourage you to be ruthless and kill people.
** In the Europa Universalis III there is the 'raze' option, by which you could order your armies to raze a territory. Doing so drastically lowers taxation and production income in the province for years, as well lowering the territory's manpower contribution for years to come. When colonising the new world, and Africa, the player is encouraged to commit genocide on the native peoples rather than have to deal with them continually raiding and destroying one's colonies. This is pretty much the ''only'' way to colonise places like the Philippines and the American plains.
** In the Europa Universalis III there is the 'raze' option, by which you could order your armies to raze a territory. Doing so drastically lowers taxation and production income in the province for years, as well lowering the territory's manpower contribution for years to come. When colonising the new world, and Africa, the player is encouraged to commit genocide on the native peoples rather than have to deal with them continually raiding and destroying one's colonies. This is pretty much the ''only'' way to colonise places like the Philippines and the American plains.
** In Victoria II there pop up numerous events concerning the spread of nationalism and nationalist leader-figures. Some are terrorists and revolutionaries; others are poets and artists. You must choose between imprisoning them, or executing them. Likewise, you are given periodic choices between purging sections of your officer corps of (potentially) revolutionary officers or leaving them be. In both cases there are not-inconsiderable penalties for letting them live, not least of which being that said officers may well lead their divisions against you in an uprising.
** In Victoria II there pop up numerous events concerning the spread of nationalism and nationalist leader-figures. Some are terrorists and revolutionaries; others are poets and artists. You must choose between imprisoning them, or executing them. Likewise, you are given periodic choices between purging sections of your officer corps of (potentially) revolutionary officers or leaving them be. In both cases there are not-inconsiderable penalties for letting them live, not least of which being that said officers may well lead their divisions against you in an uprising.
*** Generally speaking, you are encouraged to democratise and lay the foundations of a welfare state rather than risk the widespread revolts or revolutions that come with consolidating power in the hands of the monarchy. But it is perfectly possible to go through the game without changing a single policy and simply kill every rebel and revolutionary that rises to oppose you - and there will be a ''lot'' of them, up to a fifth of your entire adult male population, even. This may or may not include some of your own armies as well. Simply killing them all is cheaper than providing pensions and unemployment benefits, and also results in armies that are highly disciplined and loyal. Though it does mean you end up killing (tens of) millions of your own subjects for effectively no good reason.
*** Generally speaking, you are encouraged to democratise and lay the foundations of a welfare state rather than risk the widespread revolts or revolutions that come with consolidating power in the hands of the monarchy. But it is perfectly possible to go through the game without changing a single policy and simply kill every rebel and revolutionary that rises to oppose you - and there will be a ''lot'' of them, up to a fifth of your entire adult male population, even. This may or may not include some of your own armies as well. Simply killing them all is cheaper than providing pensions and unemployment benefits, and also results in armies that are highly disciplined and loyal. Though it does mean you end up killing (tens of) millions of your own subjects for effectively no good reason.
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== MMORPG ==
== MMORPG ==
* ''[[World of Warcraft]]'' ([[Follow the Leader|and probably quite a few other games]]) used to have a thing called Dishonorable Kills. If you killed a player of much lower level than you or an [[NPC]] marked as a civilian, you would be given a dishonorable kill, which would affect your rank. This got removed a couple years ago though.
* ''[[World of Warcraft]]'' ([[Follow the Leader|and probably quite a few other games]]) used to have a thing called Dishonorable Kills. If you killed a player of much lower level than you or an [[NPC]] marked as a civilian, you would be given a dishonorable kill, which would affect your rank. This got removed a couple years ago though.
** In fairness it should be pointed out that Blizzard encourages a certain amount of this by including achievements for killing certain NPC members of enemy factions a lot of the time other NPCs get caught in the cross-fire.
** In fairness it should be pointed out that Blizzard encourages a certain amount of this by including achievements for killing certain NPC members of enemy factions a lot of the time other NPCs get caught in the cross-fire.
** In the ''Wrath of the Lich King'' expansion, there's an achievement you can get by killing fifteen turkeys in three minutes, and there are only a few places where there are enough of them to make it possible. Completing this achievement causes all turkeys and many other formerly nonaggressive creatures to become hostile to you and flocks of enraged turkeys will occasionally spawn and attempt to peck you to death. Fortunately ([[Crowning Moment of Funny|or not]]), the effect is temporary, and it's nearly impossible for them to kill a character who's of a sufficient level to belong in the zone.
** In the ''Wrath of the Lich King'' expansion, there's an achievement you can get by killing fifteen turkeys in three minutes, and there are only a few places where there are enough of them to make it possible. Completing this achievement causes all turkeys and many other formerly nonaggressive creatures to become hostile to you and flocks of enraged turkeys will occasionally spawn and attempt to peck you to death. Fortunately ([[Crowning Moment of Funny|or not]]), the effect is temporary, and it's nearly impossible for them to kill a character who's of a sufficient level to belong in the zone.
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== Platform Game ==
== Platform Game ==
* ''[[Conkers Bad Fur Day]]'' would eventually punish you in the multiplayer for excessive teamkilling in the form of your own teammates labelling you a traitor and attempting to kill you (at least for that life). The enemy A.I. would still want to blow your brains out, so no hiding out with them. Usually accompanied by a neat little sound clip when one of your buddies blows your brains out along the lines of "Fucking traitor!"
* ''[[Conker's Bad Fur Day]]'' would eventually punish you in the multiplayer for excessive teamkilling in the form of your own teammates labelling you a traitor and attempting to kill you (at least for that life). The enemy A.I. would still want to blow your brains out, so no hiding out with them. Usually accompanied by a neat little sound clip when one of your buddies blows your brains out along the lines of "Fucking traitor!"
* In the ''[[Sonic Adventure]]'' series, if you severely abuse your [[Mon|Chao]], they won't listen to you or let you pick them up, and if you're ''really'' cruel, they won't eat, and will even [[Killed Off for Real|die earlier, without a chance to reincarnate.]]
* In the ''[[Sonic Adventure]]'' series, if you severely abuse your [[Mon|Chao]], they won't listen to you or let you pick them up, and if you're ''really'' cruel, they won't eat, and will even [[Killed Off for Real|die earlier, without a chance to reincarnate.]]
* Namco's obscure platformer ''Beraboh Man'' featured a friendly robot at the end of each level who would give you power-ups and life-restoring food. You could punch it to net a series of funny messages like "OW! What are you doing?" and "You will regret hitting a friend". You will indeed if you do it too many times, because the robot ''will get pissed at you and won't show up anymore for 4-5 levels''. The game is already [[Nintendo Hard]] by itself (and almost without healing items in-game), so it's not a wise choice to "hit friends"!
* Namco's obscure platformer ''Beraboh Man'' featured a friendly robot at the end of each level who would give you power-ups and life-restoring food. You could punch it to net a series of funny messages like "OW! What are you doing?" and "You will regret hitting a friend". You will indeed if you do it too many times, because the robot ''will get pissed at you and won't show up anymore for 4-5 levels''. The game is already [[Nintendo Hard]] by itself (and almost without healing items in-game), so it's not a wise choice to "hit friends"!
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* ''[[Persona 4]]'' actually tries to induce [[Video Game Cruelty Potential]] with Nanako, your [[The Cutie|adorable]] cousin, with her "I love you, Big Bro!" [[Squee]]! Then of course, she is {{spoiler|kidnapped by Namatame and taken into the TV world. After you rescue her, she apparently dies}}. The punishment comes from the fact that even though you really, [[Kick the Son of a Bitch|REALLY want to]], {{spoiler|pushing Namatame into the TV (or failing to convince your teammates that there's something you're missing) nets you the bad ending. And a [[Kick the Dog]], since he's not really the culprit.}}
* ''[[Persona 4]]'' actually tries to induce [[Video Game Cruelty Potential]] with Nanako, your [[The Cutie|adorable]] cousin, with her "I love you, Big Bro!" [[Squee]]! Then of course, she is {{spoiler|kidnapped by Namatame and taken into the TV world. After you rescue her, she apparently dies}}. The punishment comes from the fact that even though you really, [[Kick the Son of a Bitch|REALLY want to]], {{spoiler|pushing Namatame into the TV (or failing to convince your teammates that there's something you're missing) nets you the bad ending. And a [[Kick the Dog]], since he's not really the culprit.}}
** In both Persona 3 and 4, while the player is given the option to be complete assholes during Social Links, it's pretty much never a good idea since breaking relationships will inhibit your progress in the dungeons since the [[Relationship Values]] have a major impact on the development of your Personae. If you try to play the character as an anti-social Jerkass, chances are you won't get far.
** In both Persona 3 and 4, while the player is given the option to be complete assholes during Social Links, it's pretty much never a good idea since breaking relationships will inhibit your progress in the dungeons since the [[Relationship Values]] have a major impact on the development of your Personae. If you try to play the character as an anti-social Jerkass, chances are you won't get far.
*** This is before getting into trying to cheat on your current love interest in ''Persona 3''.
*** This is before getting into trying to cheat on your current love interest in ''Persona 3''.
* ''[[Yume Nikki]]'' and most of the fangames associated with it gives you some kind of killing implement to use as you desire. But try using them on the wrong NPC or the [[Goddamn Bats]] and you'll probably find yourself screwed over in some manner. Some might even be [[Demonic Spiders]] in disguise who proceed to outrun you, forcing you back to the nexus.
* ''[[Yume Nikki]]'' and most of the fangames associated with it gives you some kind of killing implement to use as you desire. But try using them on the wrong NPC or the [[Goddamn Bats]] and you'll probably find yourself screwed over in some manner. Some might even be [[Demonic Spiders]] in disguise who proceed to outrun you, forcing you back to the nexus.
** ''.Flow'' in particular has a rather brutal punishment for trying to beat one of the local [[Goddamn Bats]] over the head while he's drinking: Countering your attack and then outright killing you in retaliation, which forces you out of your trance, but not before a short cutscene showing Sabitsuki's decapitated and busted up corpse. Also in general it seems that angering one will anger the rest while you're still zoned in, and one in particular happens to be a Demonic Spider...
** ''.Flow'' in particular has a rather brutal punishment for trying to beat one of the local [[Goddamn Bats]] over the head while he's drinking: Countering your attack and then outright killing you in retaliation, which forces you out of your trance, but not before a short cutscene showing Sabitsuki's decapitated and busted up corpse. Also in general it seems that angering one will anger the rest while you're still zoned in, and one in particular happens to be a Demonic Spider...
* ''[[Demon's Souls]]'' took punishment to the extreme. If the player, whether intentionally or not, attacks an NPC, the NPC will continue to fight you until you kill them (if you die, the NPC will continue to attack you after you respawn). If you kill the NPC, he/she will never come back. This is true even if the story cannot be continued without that NPC. Considering that there are no save points, or any other way to "undo" the damage, this can be [[Unwinnable by Design|literally game breaking]]. Especially cruel given the length of the game.
* ''[[Demon's Souls]]'' took punishment to the extreme. If the player, whether intentionally or not, attacks an NPC, the NPC will continue to fight you until you kill them (if you die, the NPC will continue to attack you after you respawn). If you kill the NPC, he/she will never come back. This is true even if the story cannot be continued without that NPC. Considering that there are no save points, or any other way to "undo" the damage, this can be [[Unwinnable by Design|literally game breaking]]. Especially cruel given the length of the game.
** Luckily, most NPCs don't aggro with one hit -- you usually have to strike them multiple times before they [[Turns Red|get pissed off]].
** Luckily, most NPCs don't aggro with one hit -- you usually have to strike them multiple times before they [[Turns Red|get pissed off]].
** The Maiden in Black and Monumental seem to be the only ones needed to finish the game, and they either revive or are immortal. Deaths of other characters will deny you services, but are endurable.
** The Maiden in Black and Monumental seem to be the only ones needed to finish the game, and they either revive or are immortal. Deaths of other characters will deny you services, but are endurable.
* In [[Mass Effect 2]] you can choose to help either the [[Knight Errant|Justicar]] Samara or her sociopathic [[Black Widow|Ardat-Yakshi]] daughter Morinth during their [[Mexican Standoff]]. Helping one means the other dies. If the player chooses Morinth, not only are they deprived of one of a war asset and one of the most poignant scenes in [[Mass Effect 3]], but they also have to fight Morinth during the game's final stage after she's been turned into a [[Demonic Spider|banshee]] by the Reapers (and she makes no other appearances during the game).
* In [[Mass Effect 2]] you can choose to help either the [[Knight Errant|Justicar]] Samara or her sociopathic [[Black Widow|Ardat-Yakshi]] daughter Morinth during their [[Mexican Standoff]]. Helping one means the other dies. If the player chooses Morinth, not only are they deprived of one of a war asset and one of the most poignant scenes in [[Mass Effect 3]], but they also have to fight Morinth during the game's final stage after she's been turned into a [[Demonic Spider|banshee]] by the Reapers (and she makes no other appearances during the game).
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== Shoot Em Up ==
== Shoot Em Up ==
* In ''[[Star Fox (series)|Star Fox]]'', if you shoot any blue stingrays in Sector Y, they ram you. If you avoid them all and shoot all the yellow stingrays, you get the [[Space Whale]] bonus.
* In ''[[Star Fox (series)|Star FOX]]'', if you shoot any blue stingrays in Sector Y, they ram you. If you avoid them all and shoot all the yellow stingrays, you get the [[Space Whale]] bonus.
* In ''[[Raiden Fighters]]'', you can uncover fairies that, when collected, yield 100,000 points each. You can also shoot them, and if you shoot a fairy enough, she ''will'' die, resulting in a [[What the Hell, Player?|"KILLED THE FAIRY!" message]] and a mere 10-point bonus; that's 99,990 points lost. It's very easy to do by accident.
* In ''[[Raiden Fighters]]'', you can uncover fairies that, when collected, yield 100,000 points each. You can also shoot them, and if you shoot a fairy enough, she ''will'' die, resulting in a [[What the Hell, Player?|"KILLED THE FAIRY!" message]] and a mere 10-point bonus; that's 99,990 points lost. It's very easy to do by accident.
* In ''[[Trouble Witches]]'', if you [[Stop Poking Me|poke the shopkeepers too much]], they get annoyed with you and boot you from the store.
* In ''[[Trouble Witches]]'', if you [[Stop Poking Me|poke the shopkeepers too much]], they get annoyed with you and boot you from the store.
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== Visual Novel ==
== Visual Novel ==
* This is actually somewhat more common in eroge than many suspect. Games without a [[Tenchi Solution|harem ending]] will often box you into a lonely bad ending if you spend too much time philandering and playing the field.
* This is actually somewhat more common in eroge than many suspect. Games without a [[Tenchi Solution|harem ending]] will often box you into a lonely bad ending if you spend too much time philandering and playing the field.
* ''Tokimeki Check-In'' allows you to rape one of the female leads, but doing so gives you an immediate [[Bad End]]. In two separate instances, you can watch her get raped without intervening, and while you get away with this, it has repercussions. In the first instance, you won't be able to progress her plotline thereafter (although you can pursue another girl's plotline), and in the second instance you won't be able to progress the plotline of the girls who ''raped her'' (Ayame's already lost to you at this point, even if she wasn't raped the first time).
* ''Tokimeki Check-In'' allows you to rape one of the female leads, but doing so gives you an immediate [[Bad End]]. In two separate instances, you can watch her get raped without intervening, and while you get away with this, it has repercussions. In the first instance, you won't be able to progress her plotline thereafter (although you can pursue another girl's plotline), and in the second instance you won't be able to progress the plotline of the girls who ''raped her'' (Ayame's already lost to you at this point, even if she wasn't raped the first time).
* ''[[Three Sisters Story]]'' will punish you for sleeping with more than one of the titular sisters, or for sleeping with any other girl in the game without a condom. Moreover, if you rape one of the girls instead of letting her admit that she's a lesbian, she'll kill herself in front of you.
* ''[[Three Sisters Story]]'' will punish you for sleeping with more than one of the titular sisters, or for sleeping with any other girl in the game without a condom. Moreover, if you rape one of the girls instead of letting her admit that she's a lesbian, she'll kill herself in front of you.
* In ''Glo-Ri-A'' you can rape a character in the prologue, but afterwards she ''shoots the main character dead'', and the player gets an admonition to "Play More Serious!"
* In ''Glo-Ri-A'' you can rape a character in the prologue, but afterwards she ''shoots the main character dead'', and the player gets an admonition to "Play More Serious!"
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* In ''Paperboy'', if you damage a customer's house, they will cancel their subscription. If you lose enough customers, it gives you a [[Nonstandard Game Over]] screen with the words "Paperboy Fired".
* In ''Paperboy'', if you damage a customer's house, they will cancel their subscription. If you lose enough customers, it gives you a [[Nonstandard Game Over]] screen with the words "Paperboy Fired".
* Almost all the cards one can play in ''[[The Fateof The World]]'' comes with some downside, the if you caught doing all but one of the Black Ops cards (which include everything from funding terrorists, to spreading viruses, to releasing a rogue AI) you instantly lose the game.
* Almost all the cards one can play in ''[[The Fateof The World]]'' comes with some downside, the if you caught doing all but one of the Black Ops cards (which include everything from funding terrorists, to spreading viruses, to releasing a rogue AI) you instantly lose the game.
* An inversion occurs in the ''Aftermath'' expansion pack for ''[[Command and Conquer Red Alert]]'', on a Soviet mission where you have to destroy a heavily armed civilian militia, including their women and children. After enough time passes, the militia will attempt to send their women and children on convoys leaving the battlefield. Spare the convoy, and Stalin's personal guard (a shitload of tanks and shock troopers) invades the battlefield to kill everyone, your forces included. Killing the guard now becomes your only way to win the mission.
* An inversion occurs in the ''Aftermath'' expansion pack for ''[[Command & Conquer: Red Alert]]'', on a Soviet mission where you have to destroy a heavily armed civilian militia, including their women and children. After enough time passes, the militia will attempt to send their women and children on convoys leaving the battlefield. Spare the convoy, and Stalin's personal guard (a shitload of tanks and shock troopers) invades the battlefield to kill everyone, your forces included. Killing the guard now becomes your only way to win the mission.