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*** Ignore not the pretty tiara he wears.
*** Ignore not the pretty tiara he wears.
** [[Badass Bookworm|Soren]] is girly enough to have been repeatedly taken for a [[Tsundere]] [[Sweet Polly Oliver]]. The [[Ho Yay]] with [[The Hero|Ike]] doesn't help.
** [[Badass Bookworm|Soren]] is girly enough to have been repeatedly taken for a [[Tsundere]] [[Sweet Polly Oliver]]. The [[Ho Yay]] with [[The Hero|Ike]] doesn't help.
* Starlow from ''[[Mario and Luigi Bowsers Inside Story|Mario and Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story]]'' had some of this, [[Gender and Japanese Language|at least in the English version]]. She's just a floaty little ball with feet and a star, and there is only one line referring to herself as female ("This is no way to treat a lady!"). However she has little eyelashes in the official art, but not in-game.
* Starlow from ''[[Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story|Mario and Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story]]'' had some of this, [[Gender and Japanese Language|at least in the English version]]. She's just a floaty little ball with feet and a star, and there is only one line referring to herself as female ("This is no way to treat a lady!"). However she has little eyelashes in the official art, but not in-game.
* ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' always had its share of gender confusion. If you started playing the series with ''Chain of Memories'', it takes quite a while to get everyone's chromosomes right, no thanks to the confusing pixel anatomy and strange, quasi-corset Organization coats making '''EVERYONE''' have an hourglass figure.
* ''[[Kingdom Hearts]]'' always had its share of gender confusion. If you started playing the series with ''Chain of Memories'', it takes quite a while to get everyone's chromosomes right, no thanks to the confusing pixel anatomy and strange, quasi-corset Organization coats making '''EVERYONE''' have an hourglass figure.
** [http://www.freewebs.com/aqualover/marluxia_2.jpg Marluxia] was originally intended to be a woman. Due to "her" already slightly masculine appearance and the fact that this trope is par for the course for Square-Enix, they didn't actually have to change anything when they decided to make the switch. Amazingly enough, the Organization features only [http://www.freewebs.com/aqualover/larxene_2.jpg one lonely female] (but no shortage of estrogen).
** [http://www.freewebs.com/aqualover/marluxia_2.jpg Marluxia] was originally intended to be a woman. Due to "her" already slightly masculine appearance and the fact that this trope is par for the course for Square-Enix, they didn't actually have to change anything when they decided to make the switch. Amazingly enough, the Organization features only [http://www.freewebs.com/aqualover/larxene_2.jpg one lonely female] (but no shortage of estrogen).
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** While almost immediately refered to as "Prince", preventing any confusion, the hero of ''Suikoden V'' is downright girly. Only when you look at him at a certain angle (And while wearing certain clothes) does he even begin to look male. Most of the time, he looks pretty hot.
** While almost immediately refered to as "Prince", preventing any confusion, the hero of ''Suikoden V'' is downright girly. Only when you look at him at a certain angle (And while wearing certain clothes) does he even begin to look male. Most of the time, he looks pretty hot.
** When Subala's character art was revealed, most of the fandom assumed that she was a boy due to her completely flat chest. Much to their surprise, she turned out to be a 16-year-old girl.
** When Subala's character art was revealed, most of the fandom assumed that she was a boy due to her completely flat chest. Much to their surprise, she turned out to be a 16-year-old girl.
* The Night Dancer in ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics a 2]]'' plays with this. He appears to be the first female bangaa ever in the series, but once you try to uphold the law in any mission he appears it quickly turns out that he is, in fact, a crossdresser (and no, the game doesn't generalize by race when it comes to unique characters, even though the law sounds like it).
* The Night Dancer in ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics A2]]'' plays with this. He appears to be the first female bangaa ever in the series, but once you try to uphold the law in any mission he appears it quickly turns out that he is, in fact, a crossdresser (and no, the game doesn't generalize by race when it comes to unique characters, even though the law sounds like it).
* The ''[[Harvest Moon]]''-iverse has Julius, who's... [http://www.fogu.com/hm/wii/img/preview/char_julie.png Well, just LOOK at him!] His favorite items are even things like jewelry and perfume! If it weren't for his name, it'd be next to impossible to tell that he's supposed to be a dude. And yes, you can marry him if you're playing as a girl. Sort of a shame, since there'd certainly be players who would marry him if he were in fact a woman. He doesn't even have the name to help him in Japan, where his name is Juli. The whole joke was that Candace/Kotomi was bullied by Juli as a child, and always thought he was a girl. Then she grows up, meets him again after so many years, and is shocked to discover that the girl who bullied her was a boy the whole time.
* The ''[[Harvest Moon]]''-iverse has Julius, who's... [http://www.fogu.com/hm/wii/img/preview/char_julie.png Well, just LOOK at him!] His favorite items are even things like jewelry and perfume! If it weren't for his name, it'd be next to impossible to tell that he's supposed to be a dude. And yes, you can marry him if you're playing as a girl. Sort of a shame, since there'd certainly be players who would marry him if he were in fact a woman. He doesn't even have the name to help him in Japan, where his name is Juli. The whole joke was that Candace/Kotomi was bullied by Juli as a child, and always thought he was a girl. Then she grows up, meets him again after so many years, and is shocked to discover that the girl who bullied her was a boy the whole time.
* There's also Jamie from ''[[Magical Melody]]'', who is always the opposite gender of your character, but they have the same sprite regardless (and hides this fact well by having Jamie wear a poncho the whole game).
* There's also Jamie from ''[[Magical Melody]]'', who is always the opposite gender of your character, but they have the same sprite regardless (and hides this fact well by having Jamie wear a poncho the whole game).
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* ''[[Grandia (video game)|Grandia]]'': Thanks to the way he's drawn in promotional art (and his appearance in general), you could easily mistake Justin for a girl until you learn his name or hear his voice.
* ''[[Grandia (video game)|Grandia]]'': Thanks to the way he's drawn in promotional art (and his appearance in general), you could easily mistake Justin for a girl until you learn his name or hear his voice.
* ''[[Wartech|Wartech: Senko no Ronde]]'': Cuilan. [http://hg101.kontek.net/senkonoronde/Cuilan.jpg Here] [http://hg101.kontek.net/senkonoronde/Cuilan-B1.jpg HE] [http://hg101.kontek.net/senkonoronde/Cuilan-A3.jpg is].
* ''[[Wartech|Wartech: Senko no Ronde]]'': Cuilan. [http://hg101.kontek.net/senkonoronde/Cuilan.jpg Here] [http://hg101.kontek.net/senkonoronde/Cuilan-B1.jpg HE] [http://hg101.kontek.net/senkonoronde/Cuilan-A3.jpg is].
* Vivian, from ''[[Paper Mario the Thousand Year Door]]''. In the Japanese release, she's transgender and her sisters treat her poorly because of it (arguably also out of jealously that a male could be so much more effeminate than they are). Like Birdo, this was changed for the US release, making her female from the start and pretty much destroying any real reason for her sisters to be so cruel to her.
* Vivian, from ''[[Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door]]''. In the Japanese release, she's transgender and her sisters treat her poorly because of it (arguably also out of jealously that a male could be so much more effeminate than they are). Like Birdo, this was changed for the US release, making her female from the start and pretty much destroying any real reason for her sisters to be so cruel to her.
* ''[[Pokémon Gold and Silver]]'':
* ''[[Pokémon Gold and Silver]]'':
** Bugsy.
** Bugsy.
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* [http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i212/Kerrah_photos/Ehl.jpg Ehl] from ''[[Solatorobo]]'' is a boy, to the surprise of many a gamer. The pink-ish fur and stockings don't exactly help with the issue. {{spoiler|Subverted, Elh is actually a girl who acts like a boy, they find out her true gender thanks to a [[Shower Scene]] in Chapter 4.}}
* [http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i212/Kerrah_photos/Ehl.jpg Ehl] from ''[[Solatorobo]]'' is a boy, to the surprise of many a gamer. The pink-ish fur and stockings don't exactly help with the issue. {{spoiler|Subverted, Elh is actually a girl who acts like a boy, they find out her true gender thanks to a [[Shower Scene]] in Chapter 4.}}
* In the first ''[[Tekken]]'', Kunimitsu was an [[Ambiguous Gender]] [[Palette Swap]] of Yoshimitsu with the same voice, but was made distinctly female in the second game.
* In the first ''[[Tekken]]'', Kunimitsu was an [[Ambiguous Gender]] [[Palette Swap]] of Yoshimitsu with the same voice, but was made distinctly female in the second game.
* ''[[Golden Sun Dark Dawn]]''
* ''[[Golden Sun: Dark Dawn]]''
** When the first playable Water Adept was revealed, fans were confused by "Crown", who wears an absurdly short tunic and leggings similar to Karis's, has [[You Gotta Have Blue Hair|blue hair]] in a bowl cut, fights similarly to Mia, and has [[Voice Grunting|high-pitched squeaks for a voice]]. "Crown" was [[Dub Name Change|renamed Rief]] for the dub, which makes his gender a little more clear: the [[Dude Looks Like a Lady|dude looks like a little girl]].
** When the first playable Water Adept was revealed, fans were confused by "Crown", who wears an absurdly short tunic and leggings similar to Karis's, has [[You Gotta Have Blue Hair|blue hair]] in a bowl cut, fights similarly to Mia, and has [[Voice Grunting|high-pitched squeaks for a voice]]. "Crown" was [[Dub Name Change|renamed Rief]] for the dub, which makes his gender a little more clear: the [[Dude Looks Like a Lady|dude looks like a little girl]].
** Then the second playable Water Adept was revealed. A slender, [[Moe]] [[The Ingenue|Inegenue]] whose name in Japanese is phonetically identical to "[[Spell My Name with an "S"|Harmony]]". And an introductory storyline including an extnded [[Shirtless Scene]]. The European official site cited the [[Dub Name Change|redubbed]] Amiti as a girl for a while, and we can't really blame them for being confused. {{spoiler|Them being second cousins could indicate that this is a family trait.}}
** Then the second playable Water Adept was revealed. A slender, [[Moe]] [[The Ingenue|Inegenue]] whose name in Japanese is phonetically identical to "[[Spell My Name with an "S"|Harmony]]". And an introductory storyline including an extnded [[Shirtless Scene]]. The European official site cited the [[Dub Name Change|redubbed]] Amiti as a girl for a while, and we can't really blame them for being confused. {{spoiler|Them being second cousins could indicate that this is a family trait.}}