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'''Beware the risk of [[Overly Narrow Superlative|Overly Narrow Superlatives]], though'''. Practically anything could seem vindicated by history if [[Small Reference Pools|the reference pool is small enough]]. The entry on this page for ''[[Videodrome]]'', for example, describes it as "one of the most recognized Canadian-made films outside of Canada".

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== Automobiles ==

* The Daewoo Nubira was criticised at the time of launch (June 1997), but and by 2003 at launch it got a slightly better reception. Its replacement, the Lacetti/Nubira, in 2002, got a better reception but was still seen as inferior to the [[The Minnesota Fats|Opel Astra]]. Now its replacement, the Chevrolet Cruze (or the [[Market Based Title|Daewoo Lacetti Premiere]] in Asia and Oceania) has been criticised for being somewhat anodyne, the vehicle appears to have been [[Vindicated By History]] to a degree. So much so it's become an unlikely [[Cool Car]].

* The Daewoo Nubira was criticised at the time of launch (June 1997), but and by 2003 at launch it got a slightly better reception. Its replacement, the Lacetti/Nubira, in 2002, got a better reception but was still seen as inferior to the [[The Minnesota Fats|Opel Astra]]. Now its replacement, the Chevrolet Cruze (or the [[Market-Based Title|Daewoo Lacetti Premiere]] in Asia and Oceania) has been criticised for being somewhat anodyne, the vehicle appears to have been [[Vindicated By History]] to a degree. So much so it's become an unlikely [[Cool Car]].

* In Australia, the [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Escort_

* The [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renault_Safrane Renault Safrane], a luxurious hatchback with "edgy" styling. However, it's the originals (that is the Mk I, 1993-1996, and MkII, 1996-2000) which have now been seen as great, if underrated cars with excellent engineering. The latest Safrane, from 2008, is [[In Name Only|unrelated to this]], and a rebadged Renault Samsung SM5 / Renault Laguna.

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*** The first completely independent of Walt, ''[[Robin Hood (Disney)|Robin Hood]]'' (1973), was wracked by the company's financial problems of the 1970s, resulting in severe corner-cutting in its production. It made money, but was panned by contemporary critics, and was considered Disney's worst film to date internally. However, VHS made it one of Disney's most beloved classics in the 1980s and 1990s.

*** While not panned - they're both graded Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes - ''[[The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Disney)|The Hunchback of Notre Dame]]'' and ''[[Hercules (Disney)|Hercules]]'' were widely criticized for [[Bowdlerization|Bowdlerizing]] a classic work of literature and classical mythology, respectively. Both, however, are now often viewed as being massive steps in the right direction after the disappointing ''[[Pocahontas (Disney)|Pocahontas]]'', and genuinely good films in their own right: ''Hunchback'' gets a lot of praise for being one of the [[Darker and Edgier|darkest]] Disney films and quite possibly having [[Alan Menken]]'s greatest soundtrack, while ''Herc'' is often viewed as one of the funniest films in the canon, as well as providing the most [[Affably Evil|genuinely likeable]] villain since [[The Great Mouse Detective (Disney)|Ratigan]] in Hades.

*** Some other Disney flops from the [[Turn of the Millennium]], such as ''[[Atlantis the Lost Empire (Disney)|Atlantis the Lost Empire]]'' and ''[[Treasure Planet (Disney)|Treasure Planet]]'' have gained a lot of fans ''because'' they aren't musicals. ''[[The ~~Emperors~~ New Groove (Disney)|The Emperors New Groove]]'' is even more vindicated - it's nowadays viewed as being one of the best animated comedies of all time, and considered an unsung classic.

*** Some other Disney flops from the [[Turn of the Millennium]], such as ''[[Atlantis the Lost Empire (Disney)|Atlantis the Lost Empire]]'' and ''[[Treasure Planet (Disney)|Treasure Planet]]'' have gained a lot of fans ''because'' they aren't musicals. ''[[The Emperor's New Groove (Disney)|The Emperors New Groove]]'' is even more vindicated - it's nowadays viewed as being one of the best animated comedies of all time, and considered an unsung classic.

* ''[[What's Opera Doc (Film)|What's Opera Doc]]'' by [[Chuck Jones]] took several weeks longer to make than the standard Looney Tune, and Jones gave it a grand Hollywood premiere nearing the scale of a feature-length movie. His aim was the ultimate [[Bugs Bunny]] cartoon. His work was not rewarded at the time by animation critics or by the Academy. After 35 years it became one of the first pieces of animation inducted into the National Film Registry, arguably the highest reward in American cinema. ''Before [[Steamboat Willie]]!''

* ''[[What's Opera, Doc? (Film)|What's Opera Doc]]'' by [[Chuck Jones]] took several weeks longer to make than the standard Looney Tune, and Jones gave it a grand Hollywood premiere nearing the scale of a feature-length movie. His aim was the ultimate [[Bugs Bunny]] cartoon. His work was not rewarded at the time by animation critics or by the Academy. After 35 years it became one of the first pieces of animation inducted into the National Film Registry, arguably the highest reward in American cinema. ''Before [[Steamboat Willie]]!''

** Similarly, two particular characters from Warner's Golden Age, Marvin the Martian and Tasmanian Devil, each appeared in only five shorts in the 50s and garnered no popularity at the time. They have become major Looney Tunes supporting stars since the Golden Age ended, aging much better than a number of characters who appeared in 10 or more Golden Age shorts.

* ''[[Yellow Submarine (Animation)|Yellow Submarine]]'', released near the peak of Beatlemania, was nevertheless compared unfavorably to other cartoons of the period, especially Disney product. It took a few decades for the film to eventually gain its tremendous fanbase.

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* [[Frank Capra]], one of the most successful directors of the Golden Age of Hollywood, had his fair share of disappointments which turned out to be undeserved for a particular film.

** ''[[Lost Horizon (Film)|Lost Horizon]]'' was a critical and box-office dud in 1937, but its reputation has grown immensely over time.

** ''[[~~Its~~ a Wonderful Life (Film)|Its a Wonderful Life]]'' was one of Capra's most financially unsuccessful features, and suffered critical indifference. About three decades later, it was recognized as a timeless and inspirational holiday classic.

** ''[[It's a Wonderful Life (Film)|Its a Wonderful Life]]'' was one of Capra's most financially unsuccessful features, and suffered critical indifference. About three decades later, it was recognized as a timeless and inspirational holiday classic.

* ''[[Bringing Up Baby]]'' was just too weird for cinemagoers of the late '30s. Today it is regarded as among the best comedies of the late 30s, and an artistic jewel in the crown of director Howard Hawks.

* ''[[The Wizard of Oz (Film)|The Wizard of Oz]]'' barely made its money back. Critics and audiences liked it, but dozens of other great movies were being churned out in 1939. In the extremely fierce competition, ''[[Gone With the Wind]]'' and ''[[Mr. Smith Goes to Washington]]'' came out on top, while others such as ''Oz'' floundered. It wasn't until 50s television screenings that ''Oz'' became so famous and highly-regarded.

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** ''[[Unfaithfully Yours]]'' was a box office disappointment when it came out, but grew on people willing to accept dark comedies.

* The original ''[[To Be or Not To Be]]'', which delved into controversial territory regarding [[World War Two|the situation in Poland at the time]], was a critical and box office bomb. Today it's hailed as a comedy masterpiece.

* Despite winning the Best Picture Oscar, ''[[Casablanca]]'' was treated by audiences and critics in 1942 as [[So Okay ~~Its~~ Average]]. The current reputation of the film is colossal.

* Despite winning the Best Picture Oscar, ''[[Casablanca]]'' was treated by audiences and critics in 1942 as [[So Okay It's Average]]. The current reputation of the film is colossal.

* David Lean

** ''[[Blithe Spirit]]'', regarded today as a masterful adaptation of the [[Noel Coward]] play, flopped in both the UK and America and would not find an audience for several decades.

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* ''[[Porgy and Bess]]'' earned back only half its budget in 1959, spelling financial disaster for its producer Samuel Goldwyn (and convincing him to retire from filmmaking). The film has been revived in the public's eye and earned much critical recognition.

* ''Imitation of Life'' was derided in its day as a "soap opera", only to be re-evealuated in the following decades as a artistic gem.

* The films of [[Ed Wood (Creator)|Ed Wood]], ''[[Plan 9 From Outer Space (Film)|Plan 9 From Outer Space]]'' being the ultimate example, took a different path to vindication through their [[So Bad ~~Its~~ Good]] nature. ''Plan Nine'' has been lovingly dubbed the worst movie of all time.

* The films of [[Ed Wood (Creator)|Ed Wood]], ''[[Plan 9 From Outer Space (Film)|Plan 9 From Outer Space]]'' being the ultimate example, took a different path to vindication through their [[So Bad It's Good]] nature. ''Plan Nine'' has been lovingly dubbed the worst movie of all time.

* ''[[Peeping Tom (Film)|Peeping Tom]]'' ruined the career of one of England's greatest directors, Michael Powell. It's now considered a masterpiece on par with ''Psycho'' in the serial-killer genre.

* John Huston's ''[[The Misfits]]'' has gained momentum after a disastrous initial run.

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* All the works of Jean-Luc Godard in the 60s are praised by lovers of European film, but there was a period in the early part of that decade when a handful of his movies (including ''Vivre Sa Vie'' and ''Contempt'') were initially bombs.

* [[Sergio Leone]]

** The "Man With No Name" spaghetti westerns were popular, but critics didn't take them seriously because... spaghetti westerns are automatically cheap [[B Movie|B-movies]]. Read [[Roger Ebert]]'s [http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19670515/REVIEWS/705150301/1023 review] of ''[[For a Few Dollars More]]'' from 1967- he gives it a positive rating but treated it more like a [[Guilty Pleasure]] than a genuine work of art. Ebert himself lampshades this in his [[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=

** The "Man With No Name" spaghetti westerns were popular, but critics didn't take them seriously because... spaghetti westerns are automatically cheap [[B-Movie|B-movies]]. Read [[Roger Ebert]]'s [http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/19670515/REVIEWS/705150301/1023 review] of ''[[For a Few Dollars More]]'' from 1967- he gives it a positive rating but treated it more like a [[Guilty Pleasure]] than a genuine work of art. Ebert himself lampshades this in his [[http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=

** Leone's operatic western ''[[Once Upon a Time In The West]]'' was not received very well upon release in 1968. These days, you'd be hard-pressed to find a notable director who doesn't claim to have been influenced by it in some way, and it frequently ends up on Greatest Films lists.

* ''[[The Great Race]]'' was initially derided in cinemas for being too cartoony (which was said mostly because it came from an apparently unexpected source: Blake Edwards). Several years went by before it gained the popularity it truly deserved, to the point where it inspired the Hanna-Barbera primetime series ''[[Wacky Races]]'' and ''[[The Perils of Penelope Pitstop]]''.

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* The films of Harold Ramis.

** ''[[Caddyshack]]'' was a moderate box office success, but received negative reviews and was overshadowed by other comedies at the time. Today it's usually ranked as one of the top comedy films of all time, and it's hard to find anyone older than 30 who hasn't seen it.

** ''[[Groundhog Day (Film)|Groundhog Day]]'' ranked # 13 in box office in 1993. The critics [[So Okay ~~Its~~ Average|liked it but didn't love it]]. Since then, it's been listed among the 30 best screenplays ever, the 10 best comedies ever made, and more recently, among the 10 best films ever made.

** ''[[Groundhog Day (Film)|Groundhog Day]]'' ranked # 13 in box office in 1993. The critics [[So Okay It's Average|liked it but didn't love it]]. Since then, it's been listed among the 30 best screenplays ever, the 10 best comedies ever made, and more recently, among the 10 best films ever made.

*** Roger Ebert included it in his Great Movies collection, very rare for a comedy, and rarer for a film he only gave 3 out of 4 stars in his original review.

* ''[[The Empire Strikes Back]]'' became the second highest-grossing film at the time, second only to the original ''[[Star Wars]]'', but [[Critical Dissonance|critics didn't know what to make]] of its [[Downer Ending]]. It's now considered by many to be the best [[Star Wars]] film.

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** More like Fitzgerald himself fits this trope. He died in 1940 thinking that he was a failure and he would be forgotten. Less than a decade after his death, a new interest in his works, particularly ''[[The Great Gatsby]]'', occurred. Now, along with ''Gatsby'', Fitzgerald is regarded as one of the greatest writers of the 20th century and the voice of his generation, a term that he himself coined: The Jazz Age.

** Another of Fitzgerald's novels, ''[[Tender Is the Night]]'', was rather poorly received upon its release, with critics mainly expressing distaste for its use of [[Anachronic Order]]. A second edition was released which revises the narrative into chronological order. Currently, the former edition is held in much higher esteem than the second.

* [[HP Lovecraft (Creator)|HP Lovecraft]] spent his entire career in relative obscurity, his works only approaching a general popularity in the 1950s. These days, he is credited as the creator of the [[Cosmic Horror]] story, and is to the horror fiction field in general what [[JRR Tolkien (Creator)|JRR Tolkien]] was to [[High Fantasy]], with stories such as ''[[At the Mountains of Madness (Literature)|At the Mountains of Madness]]'' being studied at the critical level to the same degree, if not even more so.

* [[H.P. Lovecraft (Creator)|HP Lovecraft]] spent his entire career in relative obscurity, his works only approaching a general popularity in the 1950s. These days, he is credited as the creator of the [[Cosmic Horror]] story, and is to the horror fiction field in general what [[JRR Tolkien (Creator)|JRR Tolkien]] was to [[High Fantasy]], with stories such as ''[[At the Mountains of Madness (Literature)|At the Mountains of Madness]]'' being studied at the critical level to the same degree, if not even more so.

* The first two print runs of ''[[The Hobbit (Literature)|The Hobbit]]'' combined came to only just over 3800 copies. Reviews were good, but [[World War II]] had created a [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hobbit#Publication paper shortage].

* [[Philip K Dick]] is today regarded as one of the most influental writers of science fiction who introduced many now widely established concepts and with an impressive number of his novels being adapted to film. However, during his lifetime, he was rather obscure, probably in part due to suffering from severe mental disorders. Many of his novels are assumed to be a way of dealing with his problems, with his paranoia being believed to have created the notions of reality being an artificial illusion created for nefarious purposes or people only believing they are actual humans, which have been a common theme in science fiction since the 80s.

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** Thats a disputed point. Some sources say that Mc Goohan only wanted the show to last 7 episodes, with the network wanting far more (somewhere between 26 or 37), and that they compromised on 17. The statement that it was canceled comes from a companion book.

* ''[[Monty Python's Flying Circus]]'' was badly received at first; the studio audiences were largely old ladies (hence the use of the Women's Institute Applause [[Stock Footage]]) who expected an actual circus and the show was put out at odd hours of the night. It only gradually picked up its cult following.

* ''[[Space 1999]]'', although enjoying some popularity at the time (1975-1977) has been a poster boy for poor writing, poor science, poor directing, poor acting. However, most of these criticisms are directed at the very different second season which was produced by Fred Frieberger, a figure noted for ruining good science fiction shows. Despite the [[Handwavium]] througout the entire series, the first season is now remembered as being deep, thoughful, and metaphysical. Despite a widespread perception of the show favoring special effects over story it can't be denied that the show had visual effects that still hold up even today. Many of it's effects crew went on to even bigger things such as [[Star Wars]] and [[Alien]]) further cementing Space 1999's place as the show that helped George Lucas and Ridley Scott discover good technical talent.

* ''[[Space: 1999]]'', although enjoying some popularity at the time (1975-1977) has been a poster boy for poor writing, poor science, poor directing, poor acting. However, most of these criticisms are directed at the very different second season which was produced by Fred Frieberger, a figure noted for ruining good science fiction shows. Despite the [[Handwavium]] througout the entire series, the first season is now remembered as being deep, thoughful, and metaphysical. Despite a widespread perception of the show favoring special effects over story it can't be denied that the show had visual effects that still hold up even today. Many of it's effects crew went on to even bigger things such as [[Star Wars]] and [[Alien]]) further cementing Space 1999's place as the show that helped George Lucas and Ridley Scott discover good technical talent.

* ''[[Fawlty Towers]]'' (the first season in particular) was lambasted by British TV critics who didn't find it inspired or funny at all. Gradually it became a cult series and eventually the most popular, critically acclaimed and often repeated British sitcom of all time.

* During the era of the Seventh Doctor (Sylvester McCoy), ''[[Doctor Who (TV)|Doctor Who]]'' received poor ratings and drew much criticism, resulting in it being put on hiatus for 15 years. The second and third seasons of that Doctor's tenure is now widely praised for its gritty realism, complex plotting, and return to a more mysterious portrayal of the Doctor.

* ''[[Police Squad]]'' challenged the attention spans of American viewers in the early 80s. Only 4 episodes initially aired, but a few years later it became a cult phenomenon and inspired its creators Zucker/Abrahams/Zucker to revive it in the feature film ''[[The Naked Gun (Film)|The Naked Gun]]''.

* ''[[Police Squad!]]'' challenged the attention spans of American viewers in the early 80s. Only 4 episodes initially aired, but a few years later it became a cult phenomenon and inspired its creators Zucker/Abrahams/Zucker to revive it in the feature film ''[[The Naked Gun (Film)|The Naked Gun]]''.

* The first season of ''[[Cheers]]'' was the lowest-rated sitcom in 1982. Critical acclaim allowed the show to survive into a second season, which became a smash hit and effectively vindicated season 1.

* Anne Beatts -- who in the 70s had teamed with boyfriend/writing-colleague Michael O Donoghue to bring sadistic edge to the early seasons of SNL -- created in 1982 a teen sitcom called [[Square Pegs]]. The material presented in Pegs (more adult in nature than the average 12-to-19-demographic offering at the time) resulted in public alienation and ratings disaster. A fandom grew around the show over the course of the decade -- enough to propel lead actress [[Sarah Jessica Parker]] to stardom.

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* When Alex Chilton died in early 2010, his obituary in the New York Times noted that his band [[Big Star (Music)|Big Star]] "left a legacy more easily measured in artistic influence than in commercial impact."

* [[Nick Drake]]. Although he failed to find a wide audience during his lifetime, Drake's work has grown steadily in stature, to the extent that he now ranks among the most influential English singer-songwriters of the last 50 years.

* Rolling Stone magazine, due to its [[Long Runner|decades long history]] and changing staff, tends to praise bands and albums that its prior reviewers once trashed, like [[Black Sabbath (Music)|Black Sabbath]], [[Led Zeppelin (Music)|Led Zeppelin]], ''Wish You Were Here'' by [[Pink Floyd]], and ''Ritual de lo Habitual'' by Jane's Addiction. One of the more extreme cases is critic Dave Marsh calling [[Queen]] [[~~Godwins~~ Law|"the first truly fascist rock band."]] Queen is now one of the most beloved rock bands in the world. Especially in Hungary. Although Queen didn't win the critics over until [[Dead Artists Are Better|Freddie Mercury died.]]

* Rolling Stone magazine, due to its [[Long Runner|decades long history]] and changing staff, tends to praise bands and albums that its prior reviewers once trashed, like [[Black Sabbath (Music)|Black Sabbath]], [[Led Zeppelin (Music)|Led Zeppelin]], ''Wish You Were Here'' by [[Pink Floyd]], and ''Ritual de lo Habitual'' by Jane's Addiction. One of the more extreme cases is critic Dave Marsh calling [[Queen]] [[Godwin's Law|"the first truly fascist rock band."]] Queen is now one of the most beloved rock bands in the world. Especially in Hungary. Although Queen didn't win the critics over until [[Dead Artists Are Better|Freddie Mercury died.]]

* The Zombies' ''Odessey And Oracle'' was released in 1968 to little critical or commercial notice - it probably didn't help that the band broke up shortly before it's release due to it's being a bit of a [[Troubled Production]]. After several flopped singles, "Time Of The Season" became a surprise hit the following year, and this was enough to get the album a re-release, but it wasn't that much more successful. Nowadays ''Odessey And Oracle'' is critically acclaimed and regularly shows up on "Greatest Albums Of All Time" lists, and "Time Of The Season" keeps turning up in [[Nothing but Hits]] soundtracks to films or TV shows set in [[The Sixties]].

* [[Captain Beefheart]] 's ''[[Trout Mask Replica]]'' hardly sold any copies back in 1969 and the few who heard often found it hard to tolerate. Over the decades the album has been reappreciated as Beefheart's masterpiece and a milestone in music history.

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* [[The Stone Roses]]' first album was given a disappointing 6/10 by NME when it was released in 1989. In 2006, it was given the crown of Greatest Indie Album Of All Time by the same publication.

** Their second album, ''Second Coming,'' (aka [[Shaun of the Dead|"The 'I Like It' album"]]) was panned by both critics and fans when it first came out. It didn't help that a contract dispute stalled the band from performing and recording for four years, resulting in the long wait between the albums. Subsequently, when the album was released, the British music scene changed drastically with the popularity of rave and Britpop acts, while grunge and alternative music revolutionized music in America, leading to ''Second Coming'' losing its luster. The Stone Roses broke up in the shadow of the Britpop bands that the band influenced, but both their first and second albums are hailed as British post-Beatles classics.

* The [[Manic Street Preachers]] were initially viewed as [[Poor ~~Mans~~ Substitute|Guns N' Roses imitators]] whose albums, mixing glam style with political punk fury, were viewed as out of touch with the depressing grunge scene stateside and the trendy shoegaze and Britpop scenes in the UK. Their third album, ''The Holy Bible,'' was darker and more depressing than the ones that preceded it. The album was not critically and commercially successful, since troubled lyricist Richey Edwards' self-destructive antics and lyrics were considered to be shallow attempts to grab attention (it didn't help that, before the band released their debut, he slashed "4REAL" on his arm in front of a skeptical journalist). It turned out that he [[Cassandra Truth|really did have issues after all]], and his disappearance/apparent suicide on the eve of the band's American tour derailed the band's ambitions for success. The band since found success by [[Lighter and Softer|toning down their act]], while their first three albums are regarded as posthumous classics.

* The [[Manic Street Preachers]] were initially viewed as [[Poor Man's Substitute|Guns N' Roses imitators]] whose albums, mixing glam style with political punk fury, were viewed as out of touch with the depressing grunge scene stateside and the trendy shoegaze and Britpop scenes in the UK. Their third album, ''The Holy Bible,'' was darker and more depressing than the ones that preceded it. The album was not critically and commercially successful, since troubled lyricist Richey Edwards' self-destructive antics and lyrics were considered to be shallow attempts to grab attention (it didn't help that, before the band released their debut, he slashed "4REAL" on his arm in front of a skeptical journalist). It turned out that he [[Cassandra Truth|really did have issues after all]], and his disappearance/apparent suicide on the eve of the band's American tour derailed the band's ambitions for success. The band since found success by [[Lighter and Softer|toning down their act]], while their first three albums are regarded as posthumous classics.

* [[Red House Painters (Music)|Red House Painters]]- Though always loved by the critics, the band was never known for being commercially successful. It wasn't until the 2000s that their fanbase really started to grow and people started recognizing them as one of the greatest bands of the 90s.

* Temple of the Dog's only album, ''Temple of the Dog''. When it was first released, no one noticed it. Later in the year, the two bands which had members in Temple of the Dog, Pearl Jam and Soundgarden, achieved mainstream success with ''Ten'' and ''Badmotorfinger'' respectively. Due to the popularity of Pearl Jam and Soundgarden, the album eventually sold a million copies, and is now considered by fans and critics alike to be one of the greatest grunge records ever made.

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== [[Professional Wrestling]] ==

* '''[[Edge|EDGE]] AND [[Lita|LITA]].''' In 2005 word got out about the two having an affair, [[Your Cheating Heart|cheating on]] Edge's second wife and [[Matt Hardy]] respectively. This and Matt's reaction which got him fired over it caused a lot of fan backlash towards both of them at the time, which [[WWE]] decided to [[Real Life Writes the Plot|make into an angle]] (first involving Lita's storyline husband [[Kane (Wrestling)|Kane]], then rehiring Matt) to take advantage of the situation. This especially lingered on with Lita to the point it played a hand in her decision to retire toward the end of 2006, receiving a less-than-admirable sendoff from the company on the way out.<br />In the years since then, Edge has entered a [[Screw the Rules I Have Connections|Screw the Rules, I Have]] [[Sickeningly Sweethearts]] storyline with [[Mrs. Robinson|Vickie Guerrero]] for about a year or so which worked to the point that if Lita had returned to take Edge back it would've been a '''[[Heel Face Turn]]''' less than two years later. Hardy has increasingly gone [[Jumping Off the Slippery Slope]] as a career-midcarder, and began excusing his brother and friends' every mistake while taking '''four years''' to clearly define that his legit heat with Edge was over. Edge has become a modern day legend through great feuds and matches with the likes of [[The Undertaker]], [[John Cena]], [[CM Punk]], [[Jeff Hardy]], [[Shawn Michaels]], [[Triple H]], [[Batista]], [[Randy Orton]], so on and so forth, still being the generally all-around [[Mean Character Nice Actor|awesome guy]] backstage. (Seriously. Even Cena has the rare dirt sheet article or shoot interview saying he's treated someone like crap. Edge? NOTHING outside the love triangle scandal. In fact, Curt Hawkins and [[Zack Ryder]] still praise him on Twitter a fair deal for helping them in their formative WWE years, and Hawkins has had a subtle nod to Edge's "Easy Bein' Sleazy" shirt as the logo on his ring jacket.) The WWE Women's/Divas Division has plummeted into 2/3-minute snooze-fests on Raw and Smackdown, and took such disrespect at ''WrestleMania XXV'' that Lita and [[Trish Stratus]] refused to be among the returnees for that night's show because they saw it coming.

* '''[[Edge|EDGE]] AND [[Lita|LITA]].''' In 2005 word got out about the two having an affair, [[Your Cheating Heart|cheating on]] Edge's second wife and [[Matt Hardy]] respectively. This and Matt's reaction which got him fired over it caused a lot of fan backlash towards both of them at the time, which [[WWE]] decided to [[Real Life Writes the Plot|make into an angle]] (first involving Lita's storyline husband [[Kane (Wrestling)|Kane]], then rehiring Matt) to take advantage of the situation. This especially lingered on with Lita to the point it played a hand in her decision to retire toward the end of 2006, receiving a less-than-admirable sendoff from the company on the way out.<br />In the years since then, Edge has entered a [[Screw the Rules, I Have Connections|Screw the Rules, I Have]] [[Sickeningly Sweethearts]] storyline with [[Mrs. Robinson|Vickie Guerrero]] for about a year or so which worked to the point that if Lita had returned to take Edge back it would've been a '''[[Heel Face Turn]]''' less than two years later. Hardy has increasingly gone [[Jumping Off the Slippery Slope]] as a career-midcarder, and began excusing his brother and friends' every mistake while taking '''four years''' to clearly define that his legit heat with Edge was over. Edge has become a modern day legend through great feuds and matches with the likes of [[The Undertaker]], [[John Cena]], [[CM Punk]], [[Jeff Hardy]], [[Shawn Michaels]], [[Triple H]], [[Batista]], [[Randy Orton]], so on and so forth, still being the generally all-around [[Mean Character, Nice Actor|awesome guy]] backstage. (Seriously. Even Cena has the rare dirt sheet article or shoot interview saying he's treated someone like crap. Edge? NOTHING outside the love triangle scandal. In fact, Curt Hawkins and [[Zack Ryder]] still praise him on Twitter a fair deal for helping them in their formative WWE years, and Hawkins has had a subtle nod to Edge's "Easy Bein' Sleazy" shirt as the logo on his ring jacket.) The WWE Women's/Divas Division has plummeted into 2/3-minute snooze-fests on Raw and Smackdown, and took such disrespect at ''WrestleMania XXV'' that Lita and [[Trish Stratus]] refused to be among the returnees for that night's show because they saw it coming.

** Edge is a first ballot Hall of Famer living a mostly quiet life and loving every minute. Lita has people begging for her return after just showing up at Axxess. Matt Hardy is widely derided as a [[Hollywood Pudgy]] [[Attention Whore]], has been arrested on drunk driving charges multiple times in 2011, and got fired from '''[[TNA]]''' after the first of said DUIs (and not just ''for'' the DUI, as Angle and [[Christopher Daniels]] are still employed there after all). [[The Reason You Suck Speech]] Edge gave Hardy in 2005 in response to his return promo would never have been listed for long without a counter-point back then even if this wiki had been as huge as it is now, but now it's taken (along with Lita's statement in one ''Byte This!'' interview that [[Good Adultery Bad Adultery|something had to be wrong for her to go to another man]]) as a prophetic [[Deconstruction]] of everything about Matt.

** Edge is a first ballot Hall of Famer living a mostly quiet life and loving every minute. Lita has people begging for her return after just showing up at Axxess. Matt Hardy is widely derided as a [[Hollywood Pudgy]] [[Attention Whore]], has been arrested on drunk driving charges multiple times in 2011, and got fired from '''[[TNA]]''' after the first of said DUIs (and not just ''for'' the DUI, as Angle and [[Christopher Daniels]] are still employed there after all). [["The Reason You Suck" Speech]] Edge gave Hardy in 2005 in response to his return promo would never have been listed for long without a counter-point back then even if this wiki had been as huge as it is now, but now it's taken (along with Lita's statement in one ''Byte This!'' interview that [[Good Adultery, Bad Adultery|something had to be wrong for her to go to another man]]) as a prophetic [[Deconstruction]] of everything about Matt.

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* ''[[Marathon (Video Game)|Marathon]]'' was a moderately popular Mac FPS by a fledgling game studio known as Bungie. It has earned many more fans because of ''[[Halo]]'' referencing it so much. Many ''Halo'' fans become Bungie fans, and many Bungie fans try out their older games.

* ''[[Herzog Zwei]]'' was released to very bad reviews from many professional [[Video Game]] critics, who saw it as a "flawed shooter game". Now? Now it's considered as one of the best video games of all time and seen as one of the first ''[[Real Time Strategy]] games'' ever created, predating ''[[Dune II]]''.

* ''[[Earthbound]]'' suffered from a poorly-timed American release, a simplistic cartoony art style which contrasted sharply with the more detailed and serious fare of [[Final Fantasy VI|some of its]] [[Chrono Trigger (Video Game)|RPG contemporaries]], [[Widget Series|a then-seemingly different]] [[What Do You Mean It Wasn't Made On Drugs|approach]] to its storytelling and humour, and a marketing strategy that was downright idiotic (the slogan for the game was "[[Toilet Humour|This game stinks]]"). By 1999, mounds of unsold copies of the game could be found in Walmart bargain bins all across the US for $15. Then ''[[Super Smash Bros]]'' featured protagonist Ness as a hidden character, prompting people to actually go back and give it a chance, whereupon it was widely (re)discovered to be a fantastic game. These days, it is often hailed as one of the standout titles of the SNES era, and it's rare to find even boxless used copies on eBay for [[Crack Is Cheaper|less than $100]]. It isn't all happy endings, though - in spite of an impressive ongoing display of fandom dedication, [[Mother 3 (Video Game)|the series]] [[No Export for You|has seen no further international releases]], even through Virtual Console and other mediums due to some rather annoying (and severe) licensing issues. See [http://earthboundcentral.com/2009/02/earthbound-legal-issues/ here] for more details.

* ''[[Earthbound]]'' suffered from a poorly-timed American release, a simplistic cartoony art style which contrasted sharply with the more detailed and serious fare of [[Final Fantasy VI|some of its]] [[Chrono Trigger (Video Game)|RPG contemporaries]], [[Widget Series|a then-seemingly different]] [[What Do You Mean It Wasn't Made On Drugs?|approach]] to its storytelling and humour, and a marketing strategy that was downright idiotic (the slogan for the game was "[[Toilet Humour|This game stinks]]"). By 1999, mounds of unsold copies of the game could be found in Walmart bargain bins all across the US for $15. Then ''[[Super Smash Bros]]'' featured protagonist Ness as a hidden character, prompting people to actually go back and give it a chance, whereupon it was widely (re)discovered to be a fantastic game. These days, it is often hailed as one of the standout titles of the SNES era, and it's rare to find even boxless used copies on eBay for [[Crack is Cheaper|less than $100]]. It isn't all happy endings, though - in spite of an impressive ongoing display of fandom dedication, [[Mother 3 (Video Game)|the series]] [[No Export for You|has seen no further international releases]], even through Virtual Console and other mediums due to some rather annoying (and severe) licensing issues. See [http://earthboundcentral.com/2009/02/earthbound-legal-issues/ here] for more details.

** But there are [http://mother3.fobby.net/ definite benefits] to having a dedicated fanbase.

* ''[[Fire Emblem]]'' is another example of a series vindicated through appearing in ''[[Super Smash Bros]]''. Prior to 2001, [[No Export for You|it had never seen anything resembling an international release]] (save for the shortlived [[OVA]]), and so was obscure, if not completely unheard of, outside of Japan. Then came ''Super Smash Bros. Melee'', which featured [[Fire Emblem Akaneia|Marth]] and [[Fire Emblem Elibe|Roy]] as hidden characters. The two characters clearly sparked an interest in American players, and is widely attributed as the reason why from the seventh game onward, ''Fire Emblem'' started seeing international releases... until ''[[No Export for You|New Mystery of the Emblem]]'', anyway.

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* The Internet has been helping classic game consoles to get more recognition. For years, the NES was the oldest system that is still remotely greatly remembered. Consoles such as Sega Master System and well any game console that came before the NES were fading away into obscurity. However, as the Internet became more and more accessible, there was a lot more information on older games. Some may say that retro gaming is still relatively niche but the Internet has definitely made learning about them a whole lot easier.

** RPGs suffered from this more so. The genre was vastly less popular than it is today probably because the price tag for said games ranged from $70-90. Now, titles like ''[[Final Fantasy IV]]'', ''[[Final Fantasy VI]]'', and ''[[Chrono Trigger (Video Game)|Chrono Trigger]]'', to name a few, enjoy recognition as some of the finest games ever created.

* ''[[Street Fighter III (Video Game)|Street Fighter III]]'' and ''[[The King of Fighters (Video Game)|The King of Fighters]] '98'' were both derided as being primitive and having "SNES graphics" when they were released, thanks to the Dreamcast being able to produce competent 3D graphics and fighting games being a genre on the verge of extinction. 10 years later, after being re-released on more mainstream systems, did they finally find an audience with both tournament-level players and more casual gamers looking for an alternative to [[Real Is Brown|brown]], [[Darker and Edgier|grimdark]] [[First Person Shooter|FPSes]].

* ''[[Street Fighter III (Video Game)|Street Fighter III]]'' and ''[[The King of Fighters (Video Game)|The King of Fighters]] '98'' were both derided as being primitive and having "SNES graphics" when they were released, thanks to the Dreamcast being able to produce competent 3D graphics and fighting games being a genre on the verge of extinction. 10 years later, after being re-released on more mainstream systems, did they finally find an audience with both tournament-level players and more casual gamers looking for an alternative to [[Real Is Brown|brown]], [[Darker and Edgier|grimdark]] [[First-Person Shooter|FPSes]].

* Many gamers who purchased ''[[Final Fantasy Tactics]]'' when it was first released were disappointed with it (probably because it was so different from the popular ''[[Final Fantasy VII]]''). However, over time, the ''<nowiki>FF:T</nowiki>'' fans convinced enough people to try it (or give it a second chance) that it gained a lot of popularity. It was notoriously difficult for most gamers to try it for a long, long time; its initial sales were so poor that it was discontinued soon after release, and thus, once people discovered it and it gained its reputation, used copies sold on eBay for upwards of $150 (USD) until it was re-issued as part of the "Playstation Greatest Hits" line.

** In fact, ''[[Penny Arcade]]'' did a [http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2003/10/6/ comic] about buying a copy of ''<nowiki>FF:T</nowiki>'' five years after it was released.

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** Similarly, when ''[[Final Fantasy VI]]'' was first released, the RPG was still very much of a niche genre, and while it was highly regarded within its niche, not very many people outside heard about it. When RPGs became more mainstream after the release of later FF titles, ''VI'' was rediscovered and ''surged'' in popularity. To this day, it's often considered one of the finest JRPGs ever made.

* While it received outstanding reviews at the time of its release in spring 1994, ''[[Super Metroid]]'' was not initially viewed as the ground-breaking, genre-shaping game of its time. That honor instead went to Rare's ''[[Donkey Kong Country]]'', released later that year amidst a slew of hype surrounding its revolutionary use of prerendered 3D sprites, and so all the "Game of the Year" awards for 1994 went to it instead. It was only a couple of years later, once all the fifth-generation systems were out and ''[[Donkey Kong Country]]'''s then-groundbreaking graphics began to look dated, did ''[[Super Metroid]]'' finally get the limelight and the full praise it so widely receives today as [[So Cool Its Awesome|one of the greatest games of all time]].

* The [[Sega Dreamcast]] was launched with much fanfare in 1999, but was soon overpowered by the much more successful [[Play Station 2]] in all areas. Its games were slammed in reviews for not being up to par with what the PS2 was churning out, and Sega's inability to attract third party developers (most notably [[Electronic Arts|EA]]) severely hampered the system (the fact you could pirate its games by just burning them onto a blank CD likely didn't help, either). It "died" in less than a year and a half after its debut and was seen as a pathetic failure during the rest of the sixth console generation. However, in recent years, opinions on the system have largely shifted to it being a great system that was ahead of its time. In particular, it is known for its string of arcade-perfect ports of [[Shoot Em Up|shmups]] and [[Fighting Game|fighting games]], as well as its more solid and obscure titles are often on many top 10 lists. There exists a Homebrew community that still, to this day, makes and releases games for the system (be they from scratch or ports from the arcade).

* The [[Sega Dreamcast]] was launched with much fanfare in 1999, but was soon overpowered by the much more successful [[Play Station 2]] in all areas. Its games were slammed in reviews for not being up to par with what the PS2 was churning out, and Sega's inability to attract third party developers (most notably [[Electronic Arts|EA]]) severely hampered the system (the fact you could pirate its games by just burning them onto a blank CD likely didn't help, either). It "died" in less than a year and a half after its debut and was seen as a pathetic failure during the rest of the sixth console generation. However, in recent years, opinions on the system have largely shifted to it being a great system that was ahead of its time. In particular, it is known for its string of arcade-perfect ports of [[Shoot'Em Up|shmups]] and [[Fighting Game|fighting games]], as well as its more solid and obscure titles are often on many top 10 lists. There exists a Homebrew community that still, to this day, makes and releases games for the system (be they from scratch or ports from the arcade).

** Not even counting the near arcade perfect ports, the Dreamcast also marked one of the best outputs from SEGA itself in terms of excellent quality first party games in the form of new IPs. This console saw the rise of soon to be mainstays (even if only in cameos) like [[Jet Set Radio]], [[Skies of Arcadia (Video Game)|Skies of Arcadia]], [[Space Channel 5]], [[Chu Chu Rocket]], Shenmue, and a veritable slew of others. Although not necessarily failing now, the company (SEGA) hasn't hit a string of home runs quite like that ever since then.

* The [[Sega Saturn]] is an even more glaring example. It never really caught on (due to [[Executive Meddling]] and botched marketing in the U.S.), but word of mouth through the Internet captured the interest of hardcore gamers looking to indulge in its arcade-perfect [[Shoot Em Up]] and [[Fighting Game]] library. (In some cases, like ''[[Twinkle Star Sprites]]'' and ''[[Street Fighter Alpha (Video Game)|Street Fighter Alpha]] 3'', the Saturn versions are considered superior to the Dreamcast versions!) There were the exclusives like ''[[Panzer Dragoon]] Saga'', ''[[Guardian Heroes]]'', and other notable titles that still can't be had on any other platform without emulation. As a result, it's seen as much less of a failure and more of a must-have for any hardcore gamer these days, especially those who like arcade games. The Japanese marketing campaign (which had a narrative arc featuring mascot Segata Sanshiro) was also discovered in North America years after the system died out, and was considered to be one of the most effective video game system campaigns of all time.

* The [[Sega Saturn]] is an even more glaring example. It never really caught on (due to [[Executive Meddling]] and botched marketing in the U.S.), but word of mouth through the Internet captured the interest of hardcore gamers looking to indulge in its arcade-perfect [[Shoot'Em Up]] and [[Fighting Game]] library. (In some cases, like ''[[Twinkle Star Sprites]]'' and ''[[Street Fighter Alpha (Video Game)|Street Fighter Alpha]] 3'', the Saturn versions are considered superior to the Dreamcast versions!) There were the exclusives like ''[[Panzer Dragoon]] Saga'', ''[[Guardian Heroes]]'', and other notable titles that still can't be had on any other platform without emulation. As a result, it's seen as much less of a failure and more of a must-have for any hardcore gamer these days, especially those who like arcade games. The Japanese marketing campaign (which had a narrative arc featuring mascot Segata Sanshiro) was also discovered in North America years after the system died out, and was considered to be one of the most effective video game system campaigns of all time.

** It should be worth noting that to support that, when all the specs are put together, the Saturn may very well have been the greatest 2D graphics console of its time; alas, this was during a period when 3D graphics were being heavily pushed to the forefront - regardless as to how much better the Saturn performed in the prior category.

** The Nintendo [[Game Cube]] is another example of a whole console being vindicated. It was third place in the sixth generation, with gamers deriding it as a 'kiddie' console (granted, compared to the other consoles of its generation, it did look like a toy). It also suffered from a poor third-party lineup and divisive [[Luigis Mansion|first]] [[Super Mario Sunshine|party]] [[The Legend of Zelda the Wind Waker (Video Game)|titles]]. However, [[Killer 7|several]] [[Baten Kaitos|games]] [[Eternal Darkness|have]] become [[Cult Classic|Cult Classics]], or have simply been revisited and given the accolades they deserve.

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* ''[[The Legend of Zelda Majoras Mask]]'' had the poor luck of being a follow-up to ''[[Ocarina of Time]]'', one of the most critically beloved games of all time. Its reception was mostly lukewarm, with the chief complaints about the game being that it recycled graphics from its predecessor and its shortness, with a mere four dungeons. A decade or so later and the fanbase for ''[[Majoras Mask]]'' has grown considerably, with many people loving the bleak, sinister atmosphere, the creative (if somewhat difficult) dungeon design, and the massive amount of sidequests. <ref> A [[Ben Drowned (Web Video)|certain frightening]] [[Alternate Reality Game]] hasn't hurt matters either.</ref> [[Game FAQs]] even voted ''[[Majoras Mask]]'' the greatest game of [[The Noughties]]!

** After the release of ''[[The Legend of Zelda Twilight Princess]]'', a similar phenomenon happened to ''[[The Legend of Zelda the Wind Waker (Video Game)|The Legend of Zelda the Wind Waker]]'', which (until then) was castigated for its lighthearted, cel-shaded artstyle and sea-based gameplay.

* ''[[System Shock]] 2'' was the sequel to a moderately-successful cyberpunk [[First Person Shooter]] (that unfairly received comparisons to the original ''[[Doom]]''). The sequel, which had players step into the role of a soldier trying to stop a viral infection and insane AI on a now-deserted spaceship, was plagued with development problems. Although the game did receive several awards and some positive reviews, it failed to meet sales expectations and appeared to be an inferior ''[[Half Life]]'' knockoff. Fast forward a decade later, and ''SS2'' is regularly quoted on "[[So Cool Its Awesome|best game of all time]]" and "[[Nightmare Fuel|scariest game of all time]]" lists, to the point of almost every major gaming website giving it accolades and the game itself creating a [[Spiritual Successor]] in the form of ''[[Bio Shock]]'' and ''[[Dead Space (Franchise)|Dead Space]]'' over the years. Both ''System Shock'' and its sequel have also continued to receive significant support from the fan community in the form of mods and graphic upgrades, moreso than most other older games.

* ''[[System Shock]] 2'' was the sequel to a moderately-successful cyberpunk [[First-Person Shooter]] (that unfairly received comparisons to the original ''[[Doom]]''). The sequel, which had players step into the role of a soldier trying to stop a viral infection and insane AI on a now-deserted spaceship, was plagued with development problems. Although the game did receive several awards and some positive reviews, it failed to meet sales expectations and appeared to be an inferior ''[[Half Life]]'' knockoff. Fast forward a decade later, and ''SS2'' is regularly quoted on "[[So Cool Its Awesome|best game of all time]]" and "[[Nightmare Fuel|scariest game of all time]]" lists, to the point of almost every major gaming website giving it accolades and the game itself creating a [[Spiritual Successor]] in the form of ''[[Bio Shock]]'' and ''[[Dead Space (Franchise)|Dead Space]]'' over the years. Both ''System Shock'' and its sequel have also continued to receive significant support from the fan community in the form of mods and graphic upgrades, moreso than most other older games.

* Back in 1998, ''[[Mega Man Legends (Video Game)|Mega Man Legends]]'' wasn't exactly the most loved iteration of the franchise. Its sales (at the very least, the sales of the sequel) did not satisfy Capcom, many veteran fans (who grew up with the [[Mega Man (Video Game)|classic]] series and/or the [[Mega Man X (Video Game)|X]] series) were unsupportive of it for being [[They Changed It Now It Sucks|a completely different kind of game]] and critical reception was average (ScrewAttack even included it in their "Top Ten Worst 2D to 3D Games" list). With time, though, its fanbase grew strong, especially since Keiji Inafune declared the ''Legends'' series to be his favorite part of the ''Mega Man'' series, and now finding anyone brave enough to admit disliking the series has become a ''daunting task''.

* Back in 1998, ''[[Mega Man Legends (Video Game)|Mega Man Legends]]'' wasn't exactly the most loved iteration of the franchise. Its sales (at the very least, the sales of the sequel) did not satisfy Capcom, many veteran fans (who grew up with the [[Mega Man (Video Game)|classic]] series and/or the [[Mega Man X (Video Game)|X]] series) were unsupportive of it for being [[They Changed It, Now It Sucks|a completely different kind of game]] and critical reception was average (ScrewAttack even included it in their "Top Ten Worst 2D to 3D Games" list). With time, though, its fanbase grew strong, especially since Keiji Inafune declared the ''Legends'' series to be his favorite part of the ''Mega Man'' series, and now finding anyone brave enough to admit disliking the series has become a ''daunting task''.

* When it was first released, [[Psychonauts (Video Game)|Psychonauts]] didn't get a lot of notice, and consequently it's sales were no great shakes. It's now near-universally recognized as one of the greats (getting the [[Colbert Bump]] from [[Zero Punctuation (Web Animation)|Yahtzee]] probably didn't hurt), with fans clamoring for a sequel.

* Copy and paste the above entry, but replace [[Psychonauts (Video Game)|Psychonauts]] with [[Beyond Good and Evil (Video Game)|Beyond Good and Evil]] (unlike Psychonauts, Yahtzee never actually reviewed it, but he has said on multiple occasions that he ''liked'' it).

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* ''[[Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines|Vampire: The Masquerade: Bloodlines]]'' tanked hard despite good reviews on release, to the point where the developer went out of business. The biggest blame is probably it's release a day after ''[[Half Life|Half-Life 2]]'' in concert with a rushed, extremely buggy release. As time went on and word of mouth about it spread, the game became increasingly popular after the fact, particularly among RPG fans with fond memories of ''[[Deus Ex (Video Game)|Deus Ex]]'' and bad memories of being let down by ''[[Deus Ex Invisible War (Video Game)|Deus Ex Invisible War]]''. Today, years after release, the game still receives unofficial patches and mods from the community, which have collectively rendered the complaints about bugs a moot point and restored large amounts of content that was [[Dummied Out]].

* When ''[[Shantae]]'' originally came out, most people thought it was one of the many shovelware games for the [[Game Boy Color]] due to its wide release with little promotion, gimmicky-looking and unorthodox protagonist (A cute [[You Gotta Have Blue Hair|Purple-Haired]] [[Our Genies Are Different|Genie]] [[Girl Show Ghetto|Girl]] in an [[Avoid the Dreaded G Rating|E-Rated]] game?), and that it came from a company no one had heard of. People who DID buy it were pleasantly surprised, and character designer Matt Bozon is now a well-respected man. Copies of this game now sell for at least $100, far more with the manual and box. This may still be in the process of vindication, however, as its sequel has yet to really take off.

* [[Luigis Mansion]], when first released, was criticized by fans for not being a [[Super Mario Bros|Mario]] Platformer, and for being [[~~Its~~ Short So It Sucks|very very short]], and was overall seen as a weak title for that reason alone. While people still criticize it's shortness, which is not without reason or merit, it is more universally praised nowadays. [[Luigis Mansion]] is now getting a sequel on the Nintendo 3DS in 2012.

* [[Luigis Mansion]], when first released, was criticized by fans for not being a [[Super Mario Bros|Mario]] Platformer, and for being [[It's Short, So It Sucks|very very short]], and was overall seen as a weak title for that reason alone. While people still criticize it's shortness, which is not without reason or merit, it is more universally praised nowadays. [[Luigis Mansion]] is now getting a sequel on the Nintendo 3DS in 2012.

* ''[[Moon Base Commander]]'' suffered from being too far behind its time, and had little to no marketing when it first came out, leading to [[Humongous Entertainment]]'s bankruptcy. However, once interest in Humongous' older games grew, many fans decided to give ''[[Moon Base Commander]]'' a second chance, and it's now been seen as a well-designed and simplistic strategy game. It's not the most popular game out there, but the fanbase is certainly much bigger than it was initially.

* The first two ''[[Harvest Moon]]'' games. The original game was one of the last games to be released for SNES - way back in 1996 - and was overlooked (the "farming sim" premise didn't help). Nowadays the game is considered one of the best games on the console, and a [[Cult Classic]]. ''[[Harvest Moon 64]]'' was originally overlooked in favor of the [[Play Station]] ''Harvest Moon: Back To Nature" but in recent years has become widely considered the best game in the franchise - and one of the best on the 64.

* Late-life [[PS 2]] [[Beat Em Up]] ''[[God Hand]]'' was met with poor sales and mixed reviews at the time of its release, but in the ensuing years has developed a vocal and passionate online fanbase on account of its deep and challenging combat system, [[Crazy Awesome]] moves and [[Widget Series|general unrestrained wackiness]].

* Late-life [[PS 2]] [[Beat'Em Up]] ''[[God Hand]]'' was met with poor sales and mixed reviews at the time of its release, but in the ensuing years has developed a vocal and passionate online fanbase on account of its deep and challenging combat system, [[Crazy Awesome]] moves and [[Widget Series|general unrestrained wackiness]].

* ''[[Metal Gear Solid 2]]'' seems to do better now that people have gotten over the fact you {{spoiler|don't play as Snake}}. The understanding of the themes and structure of the story gives the game a warmer reception than when it was first released.

** [[MGS 2]] is a rather odd example, in that the game was universally praised upon release, garnering 9's and 10's across most major gaming publications. [[Hype Backlash]] started setting in around the time [[MGS 2]]: Subsistence was released a year later, with Gamespy even ranking the game #2 on their [http://archive.gamespy.com/articles/september03/25overrated/ 25 Most Overrated Games Of All Time] list. Over time, however, the game regained most of its popularity (thanks in no small part to [[MGS 4]]'s serviceable explanation of the game's weird ending) although it's still considered the weakest entry in the main MGS series by most.

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