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{{quote|'''Mr. Rasczak''': Because there is one thing that when any society forgets, it perishes. When you vote you are exercising force, and force, my friends, is violence: the supreme authority from which all other authority is derived. |
{{quote|'''Mr. Rasczak''': Because there is one thing that when any society forgets, it perishes. When you vote you are exercising force, and force, my friends, is violence: the supreme authority from which all other authority is derived. |
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'''Dizzy''': My mother says "Violence never solves anything." |
'''Dizzy''': My mother says "Violence never solves anything." |
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'''Mr. Rasczak''': Oh really? I wonder what the city fathers of Hiroshima would say. |
'''Mr. Rasczak''': Oh really? I wonder what the city fathers of Hiroshima would say. |
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'''Carmen:''': They probably wouldn't say anything; Hiroshima was destroyed. |
'''Carmen:''': They probably wouldn't say anything; Hiroshima was destroyed. |
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'''Mr. Rasczak''': Ex-actly.|''[[Starship Troopers (film)|Starship Troopers]]'' ([[The Movie]])}} |
'''Mr. Rasczak''': Ex-actly.|''[[Starship Troopers (film)|Starship Troopers]]'' ([[The Movie]])}} |
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== Literature == |
== Literature == |
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* The [[Isaac Asimov]] book ''[[Foundation]]'' does a great job averting this trope, after all: |
* The [[Isaac Asimov]] book ''[[Foundation]]'' does a great job averting this trope, after all: |
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{{quote|''"Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent"''.}} |
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** One of [[H. Beam Piper]]'s stories subverted Asimov's maxim, stating that violence is the last resort of the incompetent because "Only the incompetent wait until the last extremity to use force, and by then, it is usually too late to use anything, even prayer." |
** One of [[H. Beam Piper]]'s stories subverted Asimov's maxim, stating that violence is the last resort of the incompetent because "Only the incompetent wait until the last extremity to use force, and by then, it is usually too late to use anything, even prayer." |
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* This trope was inverted in ''In The Presence of Mine Enemies'' by [[Harry Turtledove]], when the quiet programmer is mocked by his supervisor for not having the conviction to go join the riots against a coup... and then once he's left alone changes a geneological database and anonymously alerts the "good guys" to the "discovery" in a move which does far more to undermine the coup than any individual bottlethrower could imagine (and the POV characters who are protesting physically do little violence but simply shame the coup mooks into not killing them for hours until the mooks are EAGER to surrender to the "good guys" military forces). |
* This trope was inverted in ''In The Presence of Mine Enemies'' by [[Harry Turtledove]], when the quiet programmer is mocked by his supervisor for not having the conviction to go join the riots against a coup... and then once he's left alone changes a geneological database and anonymously alerts the "good guys" to the "discovery" in a move which does far more to undermine the coup than any individual bottlethrower could imagine (and the POV characters who are protesting physically do little violence but simply shame the coup mooks into not killing them for hours until the mooks are EAGER to surrender to the "good guys" military forces). |
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