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'''No Real Life examples including [[Executive Meddling]] and [[Fan Dumb]]. Those belong on their own pages.'''
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== Other
=== Marvel ===
* In ''[[Civil War (Comic Book)|Civil War]]: Frontline #11'', reporter Sally Floyd accuses [[Captain America (comics)|Captain America]] of being out of touch with the "real America" because he's focused on moral values such as truth, justice, and freedom, as opposed to the pop-cultural shallowness that she and all the "average Americans" she knows focus on, such as ''[[American Idol]]'', [[Myspace]], and [[YouTube]]. That concentrated essence of outspoken stupidity instantly cemented Sally Floyd's status as the [[Too Dumb to Live|Stupidest Person In Comics]].
** It's not just that Sally Floyd is an incredible jackass. It's clear from the writing, particularly from the way that a man famous for speeches about doing the right thing no matter what ''bows his head and accepts this,'' that ''we're supposed to be on her side''. According to the writers, [[Myspace]], [[YouTube]] and [[American Idol]] ''are'' more important to Americans than truth, justice, freedom, and democracy. Even if they're right, it feels wrong.
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** Rulk will now be joining the Avengers...
* ''[[Daredevil]] #502'': Two protest leaders (of the same group that Bullseye blew up in ''Daredevil: The List'' #1) are acquitted of any wrong doing in the explosion. The presiding judge - portrayed as either corrupted by or emboldened by Norman Osborn - threw out the verdict and sent the men to prison.
:Let's repeat that: The judge ''threw out a "Not Guilty" verdict '''in a criminal trial.''' ''▼
{For those not familiar with the American justice system, this is patently illegal. Jeopardy ([[Jeopardy!|No, not that one]]) is attached the moment "Not Guilty" is read into the record. Throwing that out represents "Double Jeopardy" - being tried for the same crime twice - a clear and flagrant violation of the Fifth Amendment. It also violates the Seventh: the right to convict defendants in criminal trials is vested ''solely'' in juries (unless the defendant chooses to waive this right) -- judicial review can flip a 'guilty' verdict to 'not guilty' if there is suitable legal cause, but the reverse is '''absolutely forbidden'''. Any judge who even attempted something this stupid would be staring Impeachment in the face by next day's court. As ''[[Scans Daily]]'' poster toby wan kenobi put it:▼
▲Let's repeat that: The judge ''threw out a "Not Guilty" verdict '''in a criminal trial.''' ''
▲For those not familiar with the American justice system, this is patently illegal. Jeopardy ([[Jeopardy!|No, not that one]]) is attached the moment "Not Guilty" is read into the record. Throwing that out represents "Double Jeopardy" - being tried for the same crime twice - a clear and flagrant violation of the Fifth Amendment. It also violates the Seventh: the right to convict defendants in criminal trials is vested ''solely'' in juries (unless the defendant chooses to waive this right) -- judicial review can flip a 'guilty' verdict to 'not guilty' if there is suitable legal cause, but the reverse is '''absolutely forbidden'''. Any judge who even attempted something this stupid would be staring Impeachment in the face by next day's court. As ''[[Scans Daily]]'' poster toby wan kenobi put it:
{{quote|"I like how one guy becoming a vaguely-powerful government figure has resulted in IMMEDIATE TOTAL WIDESPREAD CORRUPTION."}}
* [[J. Michael Straczynski]]'s run on ''[[Spider-Man]]'' had a couple of notorious Wall Bangers in its first story arc with [[Villain Sue]] Morlun, not the least of which was Spidey's assertion that Morlun was the first villain who really "ticked him off". Now remember, the Green Goblin (one of Spidey's oldest enemies) has murdered his first true love, kidnapped his infant daughter, ruined the lives of some of his closest friends, threatened his family, and made him doubt his existence by manipulating him into thinking he was a clone—in short, he's made Peter Parker's life a living hell. But Morlun made Spider-Man angrier than the Green Goblin ever did?
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**** Apparently the plot twist is 'the Red Skull used the Cosmic Cube to travel into the past and alter Steve's life from an early age, thus leading him to the Dark Side via his mother's recruitment into HYDRA'. While that does provide an adequate in-story explanation for this bullshit, the creation of 'Captain Nazi: Marvel Universe Version'<ref>DC has had a Captain Nazi since the Silver Age. He is, not surprisingly, a Nazi supervillain.</ref>, its still regarded as staggeringly tasteless.
=== DC ===
* Everything Adam Beechen has done with Batgirl Cassandra Cain since ''[[Infinite Crisis]]''. Before then, she was a near-mute hero who didn't kill because her ability to read people was so strong that she practically saw people's death from their own eyes, causing her to be more anti-killing than pretty much anyone. He made her a villainess who [[Character Filibuster|ranted at length]] about killing and who was extremely pissed at her father for something she already knew about for a long time and was okay with - and in a weird way, they both love each other. And she's gone from being a better martial artist than [[Batman]] to no longer able to beat Robin. One hasty [[Retcon]] later, and it's explained as drugs and Deathstroke's fault. Except Beechen's still doing the next Batgirl miniseries, 'Redemption Road,' in which she... is planning on going kill-vengeance on Deathstroke and her father. Despite it being the drugs that made her want to kill in the first place now, and despite [[Technical Pacifist|Batman]] taking Cassandra back in. And despite her emotion-reading returning - not only should she be totally unwilling to kill like she had before, but the whole "seeing death" thing would also be a problem. And her father is apparently sending assassins after her despite his caring about Cassandra more than anything else on Earth. Most work ever to deal with three issues of [[Character Derailment|character assassination?]] Quite possibly! And she's being handed back to the character assassin to boot.
** ''Nightwing,'' the world-class nice guy who believes in second chances so much that he recruited bleedin' ''Ravager'' for the Titans, was screaming that Cassandra couldn't be trusted and should never be allowed back in the Batcave. ''Batman,'' [[The DCU]]'s most legendary paranoid misanthrope, was giving the "trust and family" speech. Did the artist draw the speech balloons on the wrong characters?
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*''[[Batman]]: Urban Legends'' has revealed Tim Drake is gay. This is despite his multiple relationships in the past, including Stephanie Brown, who he had to break up with off-panel for this reveal to happen. Even worse because we have 30 years of precedence of him being straight getting tossed out the window.
=== Other ===
* The ''[[Star Wars Expanded Universe]]'' comic ''[[X Wing Series|Requiem for a Rogue]]'' involves a truly idiotic artifact: an ancient temple that lets people control wild beasts with evil Sith music!
** There are TIE Interceptors - fast, fiddly ''spaceships'' - made out of ''[[Bamboo Technology|wood]]'' and piloted by those wild beasts controlled by evil Sith music. ''Everything'' about "Requiem" was bad. It marred an otherwise fine series and killed characters who had been around for a while.
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