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== Harry Potter ==
== Harry Potter ==
* [[Forgotten Phlebotinum|Side-Along Apparation.]] This is introduced in the sixth book so that Dumbledore could take Harry places ''via'' apparation. Even when you take into account that this is likely harder than normal Apparation -- this could've made a difference in earlier books. Dumbledore could've spared Harry the need to use the Knight Bus in book five. The teachers could've apparated their students to Kings Cross or to the outskirts of Hogwarts - yes, this would take some time, but they know where everyone lives, and it's inconsiderate to send students south to London just so they can take the magic train north to Scotland. And for sufficiently important events, side-along Apparation would make a good, reusable substitute for portkeys.
* [[Forgotten Phlebotinum|Side-Along Apparation.]] This is introduced in the sixth book so that Dumbledore could take Harry places ''via'' apparation. Even when you take into account that this is likely harder than normal Apparation—this could've made a difference in earlier books. Dumbledore could've spared Harry the need to use the Knight Bus in book five. The teachers could've apparated their students to Kings Cross or to the outskirts of Hogwarts - yes, this would take some time, but they know where everyone lives, and it's inconsiderate to send students south to London just so they can take the magic train north to Scotland. And for sufficiently important events, side-along Apparation would make a good, reusable substitute for portkeys.
** Given the dangers of normal apparition and the added strain of doing a SAA, it's not ''that'' much of a Wallbanger. Most parents would prefer to go a bit out of their way to make sure the kids arrive in one piece. Then again, this is the ''Wizarding World'' we're talking about.
** Given the dangers of normal apparition and the added strain of doing a SAA, it's not ''that'' much of a Wallbanger. Most parents would prefer to go a bit out of their way to make sure the kids arrive in one piece. Then again, this is the ''Wizarding World'' we're talking about.
** Why didn't Dumbledore come up with alternate transportation? Harry Potter is perhaps the most important person in the Wizarding World in the sixth book -- the good guys can't afford to lose him, or at least don't think they can. "Is this trip really necessary?"
** Why didn't Dumbledore come up with alternate transportation? Harry Potter is perhaps the most important person in the Wizarding World in the sixth book—the good guys can't afford to lose him, or at least don't think they can. "Is this trip really necessary?"
** It says in the safety pamphlet in the sixth book that parents should practice side along apparition with their children.
** It says in the safety pamphlet in the sixth book that parents should practice side along apparition with their children.
*** It was a Ministry pamphlet. Supposed to be useless.
*** It was a Ministry pamphlet. Supposed to be useless.
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*** Perhaps they're smart and know that not every Slytherin can turn out bad. Harry's been fed trash about the house from the moment he found out he was a wizard, but the kids who were sorted into Slytherin may have heard good things about it.
*** Perhaps they're smart and know that not every Slytherin can turn out bad. Harry's been fed trash about the house from the moment he found out he was a wizard, but the kids who were sorted into Slytherin may have heard good things about it.
*** I believe it is heavily implied that Slytherin is kind of like the Masonic Masons of the Wizarding world. Just about anyone with any money or prestige that we have seen either come out of Slytherin or know someone connected to it - that famous proverb ''Its not what you know but who you know'' would be an excellent incentive to have a preference for it.
*** I believe it is heavily implied that Slytherin is kind of like the Masonic Masons of the Wizarding world. Just about anyone with any money or prestige that we have seen either come out of Slytherin or know someone connected to it - that famous proverb ''Its not what you know but who you know'' would be an excellent incentive to have a preference for it.
* In Book Five, Dumbledore reveals that he kept the prophecy hidden from Harry to preserve the boy's childhood. Seemingly fine and good -- until you remember that, when Harry was thirteen, Dumbledore sent him and his two friends to rescue a fugitive from a hundred dementors, on a night where an uncontrolled werewolf was loose. Also, it is implied in Book One that Dumbledore meant for ''eleven''-year-old Harry and his friends to save the Stone from Quirrel, resulting in the man's death. [[Sarcasm Mode|These events are sure to guarantee anyone a sheltered, happy childhood.]]
* In Book Five, Dumbledore reveals that he kept the prophecy hidden from Harry to preserve the boy's childhood. Seemingly fine and good—until you remember that, when Harry was thirteen, Dumbledore sent him and his two friends to rescue a fugitive from a hundred dementors, on a night where an uncontrolled werewolf was loose. Also, it is implied in Book One that Dumbledore meant for ''eleven''-year-old Harry and his friends to save the Stone from Quirrel, resulting in the man's death. [[Sarcasm Mode|These events are sure to guarantee anyone a sheltered, happy childhood.]]
** Dumbledore is the only person who can apparate or use portkeys within Hogwarts. Getting in and getting Sirius out would be trivial for him even if it's difficult for anyone else. And if he really needs an alibi, then he could just ask Hermione to give him the Time-Turner!
** Dumbledore is the only person who can apparate or use portkeys within Hogwarts. Getting in and getting Sirius out would be trivial for him even if it's difficult for anyone else. And if he really needs an alibi, then he could just ask Hermione to give him the Time-Turner!
*** But it would look suspicious if he did it. If two kids who are supposed to be in bed did it, nobody in their right mind would believe that they did it.
*** But it would look suspicious if he did it. If two kids who are supposed to be in bed did it, nobody in their right mind would believe that they did it.
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* In the first book, Edward admits that he was breaking into Bella's house every night to watch her sleep for the last few weeks even though he's constantly tempted to drink her blood. [[Stalking Is Love|She's]] ''[[Stalking Is Love|pleased]]'' [[Stalking Is Love|about his stalking]].
* In the first book, Edward admits that he was breaking into Bella's house every night to watch her sleep for the last few weeks even though he's constantly tempted to drink her blood. [[Stalking Is Love|She's]] ''[[Stalking Is Love|pleased]]'' [[Stalking Is Love|about his stalking]].
* The way [[Stephenie Meyer]] designed her vampires. They're so strong that they can shatter the skull of a human if they aren't careful when they move. They move so quickly that they can outrun cars. They are almost impossible to destroy. To top it off, most of them have little self-control. What do humans have that can combat this? A few people who have the ability to become wolves. That's it. There should be a severe shortage of normal human beings in Washington.
* The way [[Stephenie Meyer]] designed her vampires. They're so strong that they can shatter the skull of a human if they aren't careful when they move. They move so quickly that they can outrun cars. They are almost impossible to destroy. To top it off, most of them have little self-control. What do humans have that can combat this? A few people who have the ability to become wolves. That's it. There should be a severe shortage of normal human beings in Washington.
** There are no inherent negatives to being a vampire. Most stories give them at least one [[Weaksauce Weakness]]; and most of them make sure that there's still the need to drink blood, with the inevitable downward spiral into murder that this causes, making it difficult to be a ''good'' vampire. But in this book, that need is immediately dismissed by "Vegetarian vampire" -- the need for blood can be satisfied with animals alone. This isn't a new spin on old ideas; it's Mary-Sue-esque "All of the strengths, none of the weaknesses, and they SPARKLE!"
** There are no inherent negatives to being a vampire. Most stories give them at least one [[Weaksauce Weakness]]; and most of them make sure that there's still the need to drink blood, with the inevitable downward spiral into murder that this causes, making it difficult to be a ''good'' vampire. But in this book, that need is immediately dismissed by "Vegetarian vampire"—the need for blood can be satisfied with animals alone. This isn't a new spin on old ideas; it's Mary-Sue-esque "All of the strengths, none of the weaknesses, and they SPARKLE!"
*** That whole "vampire with no weaknesses" thing springs from a much bigger problem that manifests in other ways. Namely, the author tells and doesn't show. She TELLS us Edward has to fight his vampire nature all the time, but we never really SEE that. We're TOLD the Volturi are implacable monsters that all other vampires rightfully fear, but they seem pretty lax about doing any enforcing. She TELLS us Edward and Bella have a love for the ages, but most of the time they're together one seems annoyed with the other over something, or all they talk about is how in love they are.
*** That whole "vampire with no weaknesses" thing springs from a much bigger problem that manifests in other ways. Namely, the author tells and doesn't show. She TELLS us Edward has to fight his vampire nature all the time, but we never really SEE that. We're TOLD the Volturi are implacable monsters that all other vampires rightfully fear, but they seem pretty lax about doing any enforcing. She TELLS us Edward and Bella have a love for the ages, but most of the time they're together one seems annoyed with the other over something, or all they talk about is how in love they are.
* In ''Breaking Dawn,'' [[Lolicon|Jacob imprints on Bella's newborn daughter]].
* In ''Breaking Dawn,'' [[Lolicon|Jacob imprints on Bella's newborn daughter]].
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*** Especially considering that becoming a Meyerpire means you're "frozen in time" from the moment you became sparkly. You'll never grow and mature from the point you were at for the rest of eternity. How could a child of a creature like that be growing extra fast?
*** Especially considering that becoming a Meyerpire means you're "frozen in time" from the moment you became sparkly. You'll never grow and mature from the point you were at for the rest of eternity. How could a child of a creature like that be growing extra fast?
*** Or growing ''at all?''
*** Or growing ''at all?''
** Even giving Meyer the benefit of the doubt and agreeing that she never said that vampires couldn't mate with humans (and ignoring all the biological mess outlined above), it still makes no sense that none of the vampires even know that it's possible and that there's only one or two other half-vampires running around. Most of the vampires are bad people--you can't tell me that not one vampire ever raped a human and wanted the resulting child or even that Edward is the only vampire to ever fall in love with a human and vice versa. And even if we go with the idea that most of the human victims either aborted the pregnancies or died from them, the vampire community should still know that mating with humans is possible as long as vampires are around to restrain the mothers and perform teeth C-sections.
** Even giving Meyer the benefit of the doubt and agreeing that she never said that vampires couldn't mate with humans (and ignoring all the biological mess outlined above), it still makes no sense that none of the vampires even know that it's possible and that there's only one or two other half-vampires running around. Most of the vampires are bad people—you can't tell me that not one vampire ever raped a human and wanted the resulting child or even that Edward is the only vampire to ever fall in love with a human and vice versa. And even if we go with the idea that most of the human victims either aborted the pregnancies or died from them, the vampire community should still know that mating with humans is possible as long as vampires are around to restrain the mothers and perform teeth C-sections.
*** Hell, ''the resolution of Breaking Dawn'' centers around {{spoiler|an adult half-vampire showing up and mentioning his vampire father's building a half-vampire army}}! But that opens an entirely different barrel of rotten fish...
*** Hell, ''the resolution of Breaking Dawn'' centers around {{spoiler|an adult half-vampire showing up and mentioning his vampire father's building a half-vampire army}}! But that opens an entirely different barrel of rotten fish...
* The sheer excess of [[Mary Sue]] in both Bella and Edward's characters is enough to make them a [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]]... and there are at least three sentences in the first four chapters of the first book that outright make the English language cry. (Never mind the plethora of sentences that, though grammatically acceptable, suffer from abysmal structure and diction).
* The sheer excess of [[Mary Sue]] in both Bella and Edward's characters is enough to make them a [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]]... and there are at least three sentences in the first four chapters of the first book that outright make the English language cry. (Never mind the plethora of sentences that, though grammatically acceptable, suffer from abysmal structure and diction).
* Even the rabid fans have noticed the amount of [[Purple Prose]] in ''Twilight'' and its sequels. "Chagrin" can now be used when someone wants to make their prose all [[Buffy-Speak|purpley]], even if it doesn't make sense.
* Even the rabid fans have noticed the amount of [[Purple Prose]] in ''Twilight'' and its sequels. "Chagrin" can now be used when someone wants to make their prose all [[Buffy-Speak|purpley]], even if it doesn't make sense.
* In the first ''Twilight'' book, Bella repeatedly mentioned that she had already read everything on the reading list and done essays on the books. She repeatedly says how she got blank stares from the other students when she tells them her paper topics, and so forth. She might as well jump up and down and say, "Hey look at me! I'm smart and everyone else here is an idiot!" And the narration -- oh God. Listen, people are reading the books for the fantasy and the vampires and the romance! No one cares what the temperature is, nor what the weather's like, nor how many clouds are in the sky, nor what Bella's wearing, nor what she's fixing for dinner, nor what her carry-on is.
* In the first ''Twilight'' book, Bella repeatedly mentioned that she had already read everything on the reading list and done essays on the books. She repeatedly says how she got blank stares from the other students when she tells them her paper topics, and so forth. She might as well jump up and down and say, "Hey look at me! I'm smart and everyone else here is an idiot!" And the narration—oh God. Listen, people are reading the books for the fantasy and the vampires and the romance! No one cares what the temperature is, nor what the weather's like, nor how many clouds are in the sky, nor what Bella's wearing, nor what she's fixing for dinner, nor what her carry-on is.
** This is what happens when "Show Don't Tell" goes horribly wrong.
** This is what happens when "Show Don't Tell" goes horribly wrong.
* He ''sucked out'' the ''vampire venom.'' Ouch.
* He ''sucked out'' the ''vampire venom.'' Ouch.
* {{spoiler|There is NO FIGHT}} at the end of ''Breaking Dawn''. {{spoiler|The Volturi just WALK AWAY. The vampires that all other vampires are afraid of don't fight. There should have been a bloodbath, dammit.}}
* {{spoiler|There is NO FIGHT}} at the end of ''Breaking Dawn''. {{spoiler|The Volturi just WALK AWAY. The vampires that all other vampires are afraid of don't fight. There should have been a bloodbath, dammit.}}
** It might not have been so bad if there hadn't been a huge set-up describing {{spoiler|all the different vampires showing up to help and how they all had [[X-Men (Comic Book)|X-Men]] powers and how they were all training}} -- and then, in the end, all they needed was {{spoiler|for Bella to mind-protect them almost effortlessly.}}
** It might not have been so bad if there hadn't been a huge set-up describing {{spoiler|all the different vampires showing up to help and how they all had [[X-Men (Comic Book)|X-Men]] powers and how they were all training}}—and then, in the end, all they needed was {{spoiler|for Bella to mind-protect them almost effortlessly.}}
* The whole golden eyes thing never made sense. It was stated that vampires had red eyes because of the blood they drank from humans. The Cullens drink animal blood and have golden eyes. Does Meyer believe that animals have golden blood?
* The whole golden eyes thing never made sense. It was stated that vampires had red eyes because of the blood they drank from humans. The Cullens drink animal blood and have golden eyes. Does Meyer believe that animals have golden blood?
* [[Artistic License Geography|THE WEST COAST OF BRAZIL!]]
* [[Artistic License Geography|THE WEST COAST OF BRAZIL!]]
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* Bella is being carried everywhere like she's an infant. Seriously, if she's that clumsy, then she should start a comedy routine and make some money or something.
* Bella is being carried everywhere like she's an infant. Seriously, if she's that clumsy, then she should start a comedy routine and make some money or something.
* The failure to provide more of Bella's background or what goals she had before she fell in love. We're only told about her classes so we can see how she's so much smarter than everyone else, and we only learn about her hobbies because Edward has Q&A sessions with her. She doesn't talk about any sort of career she wants before meeting Edward and only gets the desire to be a mother after she gets knocked up.
* The failure to provide more of Bella's background or what goals she had before she fell in love. We're only told about her classes so we can see how she's so much smarter than everyone else, and we only learn about her hobbies because Edward has Q&A sessions with her. She doesn't talk about any sort of career she wants before meeting Edward and only gets the desire to be a mother after she gets knocked up.
** Wait. Bella is the ''narrator.'' We only learn about her hobbies because Edward asks about them -- we never get to see her do them? Talk about [[Informed Attribute|Informed Attributes]]...
** Wait. Bella is the ''narrator.'' We only learn about her hobbies because Edward asks about them—we never get to see her do them? Talk about [[Informed Attribute]]s...
** This is topped off by Meyer making the Cullens an eternal fountain of wealth. They literally buy their way out of everything. What do characters like Esme do all day? She doesn't have to cook or fix meals -- humans and animals are pretty much puncture and eat for vampires. She probably wouldn't do laundry because the Cullens have more than enough money for dry cleaning; this sort of vampire could probably even get to the dry cleaner before closing time. She never sleeps. All of her "children" are physically and mentally adults. The younger Cullens are shown to be utterly disdainful of almost everyone and everything in the town. Do they just have bed-breaking sex all day? Even that has to get boring eventually... No wonder most vampires are [[Omnicidal Maniac|Omnicidal Maniacs]].
** This is topped off by Meyer making the Cullens an eternal fountain of wealth. They literally buy their way out of everything. What do characters like Esme do all day? She doesn't have to cook or fix meals—humans and animals are pretty much puncture and eat for vampires. She probably wouldn't do laundry because the Cullens have more than enough money for dry cleaning; this sort of vampire could probably even get to the dry cleaner before closing time. She never sleeps. All of her "children" are physically and mentally adults. The younger Cullens are shown to be utterly disdainful of almost everyone and everything in the town. Do they just have bed-breaking sex all day? Even that has to get boring eventually... No wonder most vampires are [[Omnicidal Maniac]]s.
** This is taken [[Up to Eleven]] in ''The Short Second Life of Bree Tanner''. We know virtually ''nothing'' about Bree or Diego. All we find out is that Bree's father was abusive, her mom split, and she lived on the streets before being vampirized. On Diego, we just learn that he was from the ghetto and was nearly killed trying to avenge his brother's murder. On Freaky Fred, we actually learn ''nothing at all''.
** This is taken [[Up to Eleven]] in ''The Short Second Life of Bree Tanner''. We know virtually ''nothing'' about Bree or Diego. All we find out is that Bree's father was abusive, her mom split, and she lived on the streets before being vampirized. On Diego, we just learn that he was from the ghetto and was nearly killed trying to avenge his brother's murder. On Freaky Fred, we actually learn ''nothing at all''.
* In ''New Moon,'' Bella [[Wangst|Wangsts]] over her ''birthday'', of all things. And then she [[Wangst|Wangsts]] ''more'' when the Cullens throw her a birthday party and have the audacity to give her some sweet gifts. What an ungrateful, unlikeable, whiny, self-obsessed ''brat.''
* In ''New Moon,'' Bella [[Wangst]]s over her ''birthday'', of all things. And then she [[Wangst]]s ''more'' when the Cullens throw her a birthday party and have the audacity to give her some sweet gifts. What an ungrateful, unlikeable, whiny, self-obsessed ''brat.''
** Maybe it's partly because the Cullens threaten to drag her to the party they're throwing for her if she doesn't come and be a good sport of her own volition (and there's little doubt they mean it). Usually only Edward forces her to go along with his whims, but even Alice got in on it. Until Bella finally becomes a vampire, the Cullens treat her more like some kind of prized pet or favorite toy than Edward's One True Love.
** Maybe it's partly because the Cullens threaten to drag her to the party they're throwing for her if she doesn't come and be a good sport of her own volition (and there's little doubt they mean it). Usually only Edward forces her to go along with his whims, but even Alice got in on it. Until Bella finally becomes a vampire, the Cullens treat her more like some kind of prized pet or favorite toy than Edward's One True Love.
** Bella whines about everything. In the first book, she whines about her father getting her a car. She whines about the weather. She whines about sharing a bathroom with her father. She whines about people being nice to her. Knowing Meyer, it's a failed attempt to make Bella "humble" and "modest."
** Bella whines about everything. In the first book, she whines about her father getting her a car. She whines about the weather. She whines about sharing a bathroom with her father. She whines about people being nice to her. Knowing Meyer, it's a failed attempt to make Bella "humble" and "modest."
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== The Sword of Truth ==
== The Sword of Truth ==
* The ''[[Sword of Truth]]'' series has its ups and downs, but the eighth book, ''Naked Empire'', is reviled almost universally for its [[Author Tract|endless preaching]] and contrived plot.
* The ''[[Sword of Truth]]'' series has its ups and downs, but the eighth book, ''Naked Empire'', is reviled almost universally for its [[Author Tract|endless preaching]] and contrived plot.
* The tenth book, ''Phantom'', consists almost entirely of lengthy (two to five--yes, ''five''--page) monologues in which the various characters reiterate every event in the series so far; it contains very few new events. The final book, ''Confessor'', also suffers from this to a degree, but nowhere near as much as in the tenth book.
* The tenth book, ''Phantom'', consists almost entirely of lengthy (two to five—yes, ''five''—page) monologues in which the various characters reiterate every event in the series so far; it contains very few new events. The final book, ''Confessor'', also suffers from this to a degree, but nowhere near as much as in the tenth book.
* ''Confessor'' has a doozy. One character delivers a monologue on how evil the Imperial Order is '''directly to the emperor''', who's been shown to [[Bad Boss|kill people for much less]], including interrupting his meals and because he was bored. The idea that she could deliver a three page-long lecture to him ''without his interrupting her'' stretches the suspension of disbelief to a ridiculous level.
* ''Confessor'' has a doozy. One character delivers a monologue on how evil the Imperial Order is '''directly to the emperor''', who's been shown to [[Bad Boss|kill people for much less]], including interrupting his meals and because he was bored. The idea that she could deliver a three page-long lecture to him ''without his interrupting her'' stretches the suspension of disbelief to a ridiculous level.
** It also contains a recap of what happened to a city that the [[The Empire|Evil Empire]] conquered. This lasts at least one ''chapter'', possibly two, ''from the witness's point of view''.
** It also contains a recap of what happened to a city that the [[The Empire|Evil Empire]] conquered. This lasts at least one ''chapter'', possibly two, ''from the witness's point of view''.
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== The Wheel of Time ==
== The Wheel of Time ==
* ''[[The Wheel of Time]]'' series is a rather enjoyable [[Doorstopper]] series with a few frustrating views on the dynamics between men and women. This became much more than an irritation at the end of ''The Dragon Reborn'' when, upon hearing some female friends of his had been captured (by ''Black Ajah'' and a ''Forsaken''), [[Loveable Rogue|Mat Cauthon]] rides all the way to Tear, breaks into The Stone of Tear (a nigh impenetrable fortress), beats his way past many well armed guards and a High Lord to the prison cells, and breaks open the cell where they are kept, only to have the three [[Straw Feminist|powerful, self-assertive women]] tell him that they have everything in hand and give him the impression that he should be grateful to ''them'' for some reason. Books later, two of their friends [[What the Hell, Hero?|finally call them on this]] and ''force'' them to apologize, which they do -- with ''more'' veiled insults, looking the whole time at their friends for approval. Granted, they'd have [[Jerkass|behaved the same way]] if a ''woman'' had rescued them... but in these books, women only treat women that way if there isn't a male around.
* ''[[The Wheel of Time]]'' series is a rather enjoyable [[Doorstopper]] series with a few frustrating views on the dynamics between men and women. This became much more than an irritation at the end of ''The Dragon Reborn'' when, upon hearing some female friends of his had been captured (by ''Black Ajah'' and a ''Forsaken''), [[Loveable Rogue|Mat Cauthon]] rides all the way to Tear, breaks into The Stone of Tear (a nigh impenetrable fortress), beats his way past many well armed guards and a High Lord to the prison cells, and breaks open the cell where they are kept, only to have the three [[Straw Feminist|powerful, self-assertive women]] tell him that they have everything in hand and give him the impression that he should be grateful to ''them'' for some reason. Books later, two of their friends [[What the Hell, Hero?|finally call them on this]] and ''force'' them to apologize, which they do—with ''more'' veiled insults, looking the whole time at their friends for approval. Granted, they'd have [[Jerkass|behaved the same way]] if a ''woman'' had rescued them... but in these books, women only treat women that way if there isn't a male around.
* Elayne's treatment of Mat after she finds out about his (unwilling) relationship with Queen Tylin qualifies. Even after she finally realizes that ''he'' was the one forced into the relationship, she still mutters something about "[[Double Standard Rape (Female on Male)|exactly what he deserves]]." Yeah, Mat gets shafted like that ''a lot''.
* Elayne's treatment of Mat after she finds out about his (unwilling) relationship with Queen Tylin qualifies. Even after she finally realizes that ''he'' was the one forced into the relationship, she still mutters something about "[[Double Standard Rape (Female on Male)|exactly what he deserves]]." Yeah, Mat gets shafted like that ''a lot''.
** She outright mocks him for it. The entire Tylin storyline was stupid: it involves the "ruler" (she only controls Ebou Dar) of a weak nation basically raping Mat (one of Rand's lead Generals!) while everyone else does nothing but frown -- mostly at Mat.
** She outright mocks him for it. The entire Tylin storyline was stupid: it involves the "ruler" (she only controls Ebou Dar) of a weak nation basically raping Mat (one of Rand's lead Generals!) while everyone else does nothing but frown—mostly at Mat.
* Mr. Jordan did remember that Egwene is not the whole White Tower, right? Sure, Egwene got a [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]]; but it ceases being awesome if you realize that it happens as the expense of the entire White Tower Aes Sedai. He didn't have to write Elaida as an insane moron just so Egwene could look good. He didn't have to write the Aes Sedai as incompetent channelers so Egwene could take all the glory. The Ajah heads came off like bickering children who have to have their hands forced before making even the most obvious right choice. In the entire Aes Sedai civil war, the only Aes Sedai presented as competent are Siuan, Egwene, and Verin.
* Mr. Jordan did remember that Egwene is not the whole White Tower, right? Sure, Egwene got a [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]]; but it ceases being awesome if you realize that it happens as the expense of the entire White Tower Aes Sedai. He didn't have to write Elaida as an insane moron just so Egwene could look good. He didn't have to write the Aes Sedai as incompetent channelers so Egwene could take all the glory. The Ajah heads came off like bickering children who have to have their hands forced before making even the most obvious right choice. In the entire Aes Sedai civil war, the only Aes Sedai presented as competent are Siuan, Egwene, and Verin.
* Egwene is captured when she sneaks into the White Tower using a technique that not only was thought long lost and somewhat mythical, but also is converting the harbor chain into the most valuable substance on earth. Yet, at first, everybody meekly accepts Eliada's insistence that Egwene be treated as less than a novice.
* Egwene is captured when she sneaks into the White Tower using a technique that not only was thought long lost and somewhat mythical, but also is converting the harbor chain into the most valuable substance on earth. Yet, at first, everybody meekly accepts Eliada's insistence that Egwene be treated as less than a novice.
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* [[Ayn Rand]]'s ''[[Atlas Shrugged]]'' has a 90-page monologue on the evils of any system other than free-market capitalism. The rest of the book has its wallbanger moments, but that one makes you want to chuck the damn thing out a window.
* [[Ayn Rand]]'s ''[[Atlas Shrugged]]'' has a 90-page monologue on the evils of any system other than free-market capitalism. The rest of the book has its wallbanger moments, but that one makes you want to chuck the damn thing out a window.
** From a literary standpoint, how does it make any sense that John Galt's response to increasing collectivism in America (which he sees as bad) is to form what is clearly a union?
** From a literary standpoint, how does it make any sense that John Galt's response to increasing collectivism in America (which he sees as bad) is to form what is clearly a union?
*** Unlike standard unions where everyone is a cog in the wheels of some organization or industry, the members of Galt's "union" are in different industries or professions and the leaders of those industries and professions (actual or, like the truck driver, potential). In short, that's no union -- that's a Chamber of Commerce. Also, it's explicitly a way of defeating collectivism by turning its internal contradictions against itself. Various corporate PACs have tried this in real life; the problem here, like with any other sort of temporary socialism, is that people (both human and corporate) have trouble pulling off the "temporary" part.
*** Unlike standard unions where everyone is a cog in the wheels of some organization or industry, the members of Galt's "union" are in different industries or professions and the leaders of those industries and professions (actual or, like the truck driver, potential). In short, that's no union—that's a Chamber of Commerce. Also, it's explicitly a way of defeating collectivism by turning its internal contradictions against itself. Various corporate PACs have tried this in real life; the problem here, like with any other sort of temporary socialism, is that people (both human and corporate) have trouble pulling off the "temporary" part.
*** Quoth The Question in ''The Dark Knight Strikes Back'':
*** Quoth The Question in ''The Dark Knight Strikes Back'':
{{quote|"You can't fight collectivism with collectivism, you Marxist '''twit'''!"}}
{{quote|"You can't fight collectivism with collectivism, you Marxist '''twit'''!"}}
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* Similarly, the ''[[Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell|Splinter Cell]]'' novelizations (except Splinter Cell: Checkmate, which has a different author) because of massive [[Character Derailment]]. Sam Fisher turned from a gruff if likeable and extremely competent stealth operative with a love for his country into a [[Cluster F-Bomb]]-throwing, overtly sexual fool with an unrealistic dislike for the army (''why did he volunteer and/or stay then?'' would be the question) and a penchant for screwing up.
* Similarly, the ''[[Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell|Splinter Cell]]'' novelizations (except Splinter Cell: Checkmate, which has a different author) because of massive [[Character Derailment]]. Sam Fisher turned from a gruff if likeable and extremely competent stealth operative with a love for his country into a [[Cluster F-Bomb]]-throwing, overtly sexual fool with an unrealistic dislike for the army (''why did he volunteer and/or stay then?'' would be the question) and a penchant for screwing up.
** Incidentally, the equally awful, written-by-the-same-author ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'' novelization suffered from exactly the same problems, but the fandom as a whole, being generally mellow, welcomed it with open arms for being [[So Bad It's Good]] - even making [http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/miksamouse/chirstmasinjune.jpg image macros of the stupider lines]. (One possible mitigating factor is that the fans were already used to rolling with absurdity in the [[Video Game|games]] [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)/Video Games|themselves]].)
** Incidentally, the equally awful, written-by-the-same-author ''[[Metal Gear Solid]]'' novelization suffered from exactly the same problems, but the fandom as a whole, being generally mellow, welcomed it with open arms for being [[So Bad It's Good]] - even making [http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y53/miksamouse/chirstmasinjune.jpg image macros of the stupider lines]. (One possible mitigating factor is that the fans were already used to rolling with absurdity in the [[Video Game|games]] [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)/Video Games|themselves]].)
* Philip Pullman's ''[[His Dark Materials|The Northern Lights]]'': This excellent, exciting story full of magic and mystery and suspense gets abruptly paused so the ''villain'' can [[Anvilicious|Anviliciously]] [[Character Filibuster|lecture the reader]] about the evils of Christianity. This stays the theme for the next two books: God = evil, sin = good, church = lie, childhood = sucks. Considering how awesome the first book started, all this griping seriously ruined the mood.
* Philip Pullman's ''[[His Dark Materials|The Northern Lights]]'': This excellent, exciting story full of magic and mystery and suspense gets abruptly paused so the ''villain'' can [[Anvilicious]]ly [[Character Filibuster|lecture the reader]] about the evils of Christianity. This stays the theme for the next two books: God = evil, sin = good, church = lie, childhood = sucks. Considering how awesome the first book started, all this griping seriously ruined the mood.
** And then there's [[Diabolus Ex Machina|the ending]], where we learn where Spectres come from and why Dust is in peril. Every part of it [[Ass Pull|comes out of nowhere]], and it's riddled with so many [[Plot Hole|Plot Holes]] that it looks like Swiss cheese. The origin of Spectres is not foreshadowed breaks the rules of magic given elsewhere in the series. The author and the angels go out of their way to prevent a [[Happy Ending]].
** And then there's [[Diabolus Ex Machina|the ending]], where we learn where Spectres come from and why Dust is in peril. Every part of it [[Ass Pull|comes out of nowhere]], and it's riddled with so many [[Plot Hole]]s that it looks like Swiss cheese. The origin of Spectres is not foreshadowed breaks the rules of magic given elsewhere in the series. The author and the angels go out of their way to prevent a [[Happy Ending]].
** The beginning of ''The Amber Spyglass'' is just frustrating. So, Mrs. Coulter {{spoiler|kidnapped Lyra, and now Will followed her all the way to the cave where they are. Will tried a direct approach, which didn't go well because he was seen by Mrs. Coulter, and they exchanged about two sentences. After getting away, Will started to notice that he ''didn't'' want to hurt Mrs. Coulter, that he ''didn't'' want to put her in danger ''nor'' to punish her.}} Simply looking at her for a second and hearing a single sentence made the kid feel attracted to her. It ''doesn't matter'' how symbolic the scene is; it ''doesn't matter'' if this was to show that Will is growing up and contacting his sexual side; it ''doesn't even matter'' how unbelievably sexy Mrs. Coulter might be. None of this excuses that Will {{spoiler|put his most important companion in the entire journey}} in danger just because he saw a pretty lady who, unfortunately, is also a major villain. That nearly earns his unhappy ending.
** The beginning of ''The Amber Spyglass'' is just frustrating. So, Mrs. Coulter {{spoiler|kidnapped Lyra, and now Will followed her all the way to the cave where they are. Will tried a direct approach, which didn't go well because he was seen by Mrs. Coulter, and they exchanged about two sentences. After getting away, Will started to notice that he ''didn't'' want to hurt Mrs. Coulter, that he ''didn't'' want to put her in danger ''nor'' to punish her.}} Simply looking at her for a second and hearing a single sentence made the kid feel attracted to her. It ''doesn't matter'' how symbolic the scene is; it ''doesn't matter'' if this was to show that Will is growing up and contacting his sexual side; it ''doesn't even matter'' how unbelievably sexy Mrs. Coulter might be. None of this excuses that Will {{spoiler|put his most important companion in the entire journey}} in danger just because he saw a pretty lady who, unfortunately, is also a major villain. That nearly earns his unhappy ending.
* Wallbangery can happen if one sets out to read a controversial book just to see what all the fuss is about. [[Rule-Abiding Rebel|What was so controversial]] about ''[[A Separate Peace]]''?
* Wallbangery can happen if one sets out to read a controversial book just to see what all the fuss is about. [[Rule-Abiding Rebel|What was so controversial]] about ''[[A Separate Peace]]''?
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** Burroughs' thinly-fictionalized memoir ''[[Junky]]'' is one of his few books that make any kind of sense at all or attempt to tell a story. ''[[Naked Lunch]]'' is borderline-intelligible but needs to be read extremely closely to follow what plot there is.
** Burroughs' thinly-fictionalized memoir ''[[Junky]]'' is one of his few books that make any kind of sense at all or attempt to tell a story. ''[[Naked Lunch]]'' is borderline-intelligible but needs to be read extremely closely to follow what plot there is.
* 99% of ''[[The Silence of the Lambs]]'' is pure genius. Buffalo Bill's fatal [[Click Hello]]? Not so much.
* 99% of ''[[The Silence of the Lambs]]'' is pure genius. Buffalo Bill's fatal [[Click Hello]]? Not so much.
* The ''[[Anita Blake]]'' series was originally about a morally-healthy necromancer detective and her fight against mythical beasties in St. Louis. She eventually got into a funky [[Love Triangle]] with the leaders of the city's top Vampire and Werewolf clans; that was okay, since they themselves were not evil and would help her in her fight against their own kind...as long as the ones they were hunting was a legitimate threat against the humans or other creatures in the city. It helped flesh out her mission and made her realize the fine line between the normal, pedestrian critters that just want to live in peace and the true monsters in the world. The [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] comes shortly after her return from New Mexico, when we learn she's turned into an unholy [[Horny Devil]] [[Soul Jar]] for the [[Eldritch Abomination]] she's sworn to keep locked up (with both vampirism and at least ''six'' different strains of therianthropy in her blood, to boot), making her a ''bigger'' threat to the world as we know it than nearly ''every single evil creature she's fought before or since''. Unfortunately, [[God Mode Sue|Anita]] will be too busy [[Deus Sex Machina|having sex with anything with legs]] for the issue to ever be seriously addressed for long -- unless you count the sex as addressing the issue, since her being chaste is what would release the abomination in question.
* The ''[[Anita Blake]]'' series was originally about a morally-healthy necromancer detective and her fight against mythical beasties in St. Louis. She eventually got into a funky [[Love Triangle]] with the leaders of the city's top Vampire and Werewolf clans; that was okay, since they themselves were not evil and would help her in her fight against their own kind...as long as the ones they were hunting was a legitimate threat against the humans or other creatures in the city. It helped flesh out her mission and made her realize the fine line between the normal, pedestrian critters that just want to live in peace and the true monsters in the world. The [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] comes shortly after her return from New Mexico, when we learn she's turned into an unholy [[Horny Devil]] [[Soul Jar]] for the [[Eldritch Abomination]] she's sworn to keep locked up (with both vampirism and at least ''six'' different strains of therianthropy in her blood, to boot), making her a ''bigger'' threat to the world as we know it than nearly ''every single evil creature she's fought before or since''. Unfortunately, [[God Mode Sue|Anita]] will be too busy [[Deus Sex Machina|having sex with anything with legs]] for the issue to ever be seriously addressed for long—unless you count the sex as addressing the issue, since her being chaste is what would release the abomination in question.
** She also seems to forget that she is legally a U.S Marshal who probably shouldn't be getting too involved in vampire and lycanthrope politics. Of course the implications of a public servant helping armed factions and setting up defense treaties for these factions on U.S soil also never gets addressed.
** She also seems to forget that she is legally a U.S Marshal who probably shouldn't be getting too involved in vampire and lycanthrope politics. Of course the implications of a public servant helping armed factions and setting up defense treaties for these factions on U.S soil also never gets addressed.
* In another example of [[Video Game Movies Suck|Video Game Books Suck]]: the ''[[Baldur's Gate|Baldurs Gate]] II'' [[Novelization]]. The main character is a stupid, unsympathetic thug who sleeps with any woman; [[The Eeyore|Xan]] - the intelligent cynic - died because he argued with a ghoul; the author did not get the point of Minsc being an [[Affectionate Parody]] of [[Boisterous Bruiser|Boisterous Bruisers]]; [[Lovable Traitor|Yoshimo]] became a fat, cowardly turncoat who was only useful for the magic sword he has... The thug-hero just killed people because he was told to, and then there was [[The Woobie|Imoen]]'s [[Suddenly Sexuality|sudden lesbianism]] around a drow female. Oh yeah, and [[Did Not Do the Research|drow eat spiders]], which is like Hindus eating cows. And [[Big Bad]] [[Badass]] [[Magnificent Bastard]] Irenicus isn't even in four-fifths of the book and [[Smug Snake|wasn't even close to magnificent]].
* In another example of [[Video Game Movies Suck|Video Game Books Suck]]: the ''[[Baldur's Gate|Baldurs Gate]] II'' [[Novelization]]. The main character is a stupid, unsympathetic thug who sleeps with any woman; [[The Eeyore|Xan]] - the intelligent cynic - died because he argued with a ghoul; the author did not get the point of Minsc being an [[Affectionate Parody]] of [[Boisterous Bruiser]]s; [[Lovable Traitor|Yoshimo]] became a fat, cowardly turncoat who was only useful for the magic sword he has... The thug-hero just killed people because he was told to, and then there was [[The Woobie|Imoen]]'s [[Suddenly Sexuality|sudden lesbianism]] around a drow female. Oh yeah, and [[Did Not Do the Research|drow eat spiders]], which is like Hindus eating cows. And [[Big Bad]] [[Badass]] [[Magnificent Bastard]] Irenicus isn't even in four-fifths of the book and [[Smug Snake|wasn't even close to magnificent]].
** The [[Novelization]] of the first ''[[Baldur's Gate|Baldurs Gate]]'' was horrific, too. Khalid is randomly killed off by an ochre jelly to free Jaheira to be the main character's squeeze, most of the game's [[Non-Player Character|NPCs]] aren't even referenced, and Xan was [[The Chew Toy|eaten by a giant spider]]. Evidently, [[Unexplained Recovery|he got better]], or at least well enough to die again.
** The [[Novelization]] of the first ''[[Baldur's Gate|Baldurs Gate]]'' was horrific, too. Khalid is randomly killed off by an ochre jelly to free Jaheira to be the main character's squeeze, most of the game's [[Non-Player Character|NPCs]] aren't even referenced, and Xan was [[The Chew Toy|eaten by a giant spider]]. Evidently, [[Unexplained Recovery|he got better]], or at least well enough to die again.
* ''[[Earthsea Trilogy|Tehanu]]'' is okay for its first half because Ursula LeGuin is a good writer. Halfway through, things start to change. Certain members of the town disliked Tenar because she was an assertive woman; these were, of course, villains. In itself, not a big problem. Then, a [[Chekhov's Gun|Chekhov's Wizard's Curse]] activates, and Tenar unwittingly lures her (male) friend and adopted daughter into her enemy's trap. This enemy, however, had a prior history set against only her friend, not her. In a previous book in which her friend and that enemy had faced each other, the enemy was pretty much obsessed with not dying. That's about it. He never mentioned anything about women or how he regarded them at all. Ever. It wasn't an indirect attack against Tenar's friend via attacking her, nor was it a personal attack on her specifically. The enemy apparently just up and hated women in the twenty-five years since the novels last wrote about him. This was bad, but seriously, the ''worst'' part of it:
* ''[[Earthsea Trilogy|Tehanu]]'' is okay for its first half because Ursula LeGuin is a good writer. Halfway through, things start to change. Certain members of the town disliked Tenar because she was an assertive woman; these were, of course, villains. In itself, not a big problem. Then, a [[Chekhov's Gun|Chekhov's Wizard's Curse]] activates, and Tenar unwittingly lures her (male) friend and adopted daughter into her enemy's trap. This enemy, however, had a prior history set against only her friend, not her. In a previous book in which her friend and that enemy had faced each other, the enemy was pretty much obsessed with not dying. That's about it. He never mentioned anything about women or how he regarded them at all. Ever. It wasn't an indirect attack against Tenar's friend via attacking her, nor was it a personal attack on her specifically. The enemy apparently just up and hated women in the twenty-five years since the novels last wrote about him. This was bad, but seriously, the ''worst'' part of it:
** {{smallcaps| Some dude who apparently isn't named Tuaho: See how well-trained she is! Roll over, Bitch!}} ARGH.
** {{smallcaps| Some dude who apparently isn't named Tuaho: See how well-trained she is! Roll over, Bitch!}} ARGH.
** LeGuin, brilliant as she can be, ''does'' have the worst time when she tries to "[[Author Tract|send a message]]". See: ''[[Changing Planes]]'', specifically the chapters "The Royals of Hegn" and "Great Joy". Most. Blatant. [[Author Tract]]. Ever. (This is sad, because "The Building" is freaking great.)
** LeGuin, brilliant as she can be, ''does'' have the worst time when she tries to "[[Author Tract|send a message]]". See: ''[[Changing Planes]]'', specifically the chapters "The Royals of Hegn" and "Great Joy". Most. Blatant. [[Author Tract]]. Ever. (This is sad, because "The Building" is freaking great.)
** And The Other Wind is even worse. In the first three books, the Dry Land is presented as a relatively dreary afterlife that's been there since as long as anyone can remember, a place that it makes sense to want to avoid except that doing so is messing with the laws of nature and has too many consequences. In The Other Wind, it's revealed that {{spoiler|it used to be a pleasant place for dragons only, but the earliest wizards stole it, but in the process [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|accidentally made it a dry land, and prevented humans from reincarnating, which was their former fate-after-death]].}} [[The Reveal|Dark secrets and lost knowledge]] like that are often a good plot device, but then LeGuin turns the Roke Wizards into [[Straw Character|Straw Characters]] defending the actions of these people and calling it the crowning achievement of humanity, ''when according to continuity they shouldn't have even known about it''.
** And The Other Wind is even worse. In the first three books, the Dry Land is presented as a relatively dreary afterlife that's been there since as long as anyone can remember, a place that it makes sense to want to avoid except that doing so is messing with the laws of nature and has too many consequences. In The Other Wind, it's revealed that {{spoiler|it used to be a pleasant place for dragons only, but the earliest wizards stole it, but in the process [[Nice Job Breaking It, Hero|accidentally made it a dry land, and prevented humans from reincarnating, which was their former fate-after-death]].}} [[The Reveal|Dark secrets and lost knowledge]] like that are often a good plot device, but then LeGuin turns the Roke Wizards into [[Straw Character]]s defending the actions of these people and calling it the crowning achievement of humanity, ''when according to continuity they shouldn't have even known about it''.
* While the book as a whole was okay, the [[Novelization]] of ''[[Tom Clancy]]'s [[End War]]'' had the Russian Federation literally ''invading'' Canada, taking over several cities, destroying nearby American military installations, and even committing war crimes against the general populace. How did the Canadian Prime Minister react? ''He did absolutely nothing.'' He never mobilized his military forces, and he actively ''refused'' America's offer to intervene, all because the Russians made some scary demands. Man, [[What an Idiot!]].
* While the book as a whole was okay, the [[Novelization]] of ''[[Tom Clancy]]'s [[End War]]'' had the Russian Federation literally ''invading'' Canada, taking over several cities, destroying nearby American military installations, and even committing war crimes against the general populace. How did the Canadian Prime Minister react? ''He did absolutely nothing.'' He never mobilized his military forces, and he actively ''refused'' America's offer to intervene, all because the Russians made some scary demands. Man, [[What an Idiot!]].
** The Russians ''did'' just force the Joint Strike Force to [[Nuke'Em|drop a kinetic strike on Paris]], and the JSF had most of its forces overseas fighting the Russians on other fronts. The Canadian Prime Minister may have honestly believed the Americans couldn't save Canada, and the Russians in ''[[End War]]'' are ''seriously'' scary dudes. But even the general Canadian populace [[What the Hell, Hero?|were not happy]] with their Prime Minister's response...
** The Russians ''did'' just force the Joint Strike Force to [[Nuke'Em|drop a kinetic strike on Paris]], and the JSF had most of its forces overseas fighting the Russians on other fronts. The Canadian Prime Minister may have honestly believed the Americans couldn't save Canada, and the Russians in ''[[End War]]'' are ''seriously'' scary dudes. But even the general Canadian populace [[What the Hell, Hero?|were not happy]] with their Prime Minister's response...
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** [[All Anime Is Naughty Tentacles|At least they didn't bring up the]] [[Naughty Tentacles]]...
** [[All Anime Is Naughty Tentacles|At least they didn't bring up the]] [[Naughty Tentacles]]...
* Robert Newcomb's [[Chronicles of Blood and Stone|The Fifth Sorceress]], a book some say may be worse than the [[Inheritance Cycle]], has [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|WallBangers]] all round; but what took the cake was when the [[Designated Hero]], Tristan, was given a sword by [[The Dragon]] and told to behead his father. Tristan goes and does just that. No hesitation whatsoever. ''Then,'' only after killing his dad, does he go to attack [[The Dragon]], saying, "You made me kill my father!". [http://eragon-sporkings.wikispaces.com/Fifth_Thirteen Kippurbird's sporking says it better.]
* Robert Newcomb's [[Chronicles of Blood and Stone|The Fifth Sorceress]], a book some say may be worse than the [[Inheritance Cycle]], has [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|WallBangers]] all round; but what took the cake was when the [[Designated Hero]], Tristan, was given a sword by [[The Dragon]] and told to behead his father. Tristan goes and does just that. No hesitation whatsoever. ''Then,'' only after killing his dad, does he go to attack [[The Dragon]], saying, "You made me kill my father!". [http://eragon-sporkings.wikispaces.com/Fifth_Thirteen Kippurbird's sporking says it better.]
** The funny thing is, the book's characterizations and ideas are internally consistent. The villains weren't [[Straw Feminist|Straw Feminists]]. The protagonist wasn't a [[Kavorka Man]], just [[Mr. Fanservice]]. The [[Humans Are White|complete lack of nonwhites]] wasn't intended as racist -- after all, why should a fantasy world mimic our own in racial diversity? Then the main character's sister {{spoiler|[[Face Heel Turn|joined the villains]] and promptly turned into a [[Depraved Bisexual]]}}. Arrgh! And this is the first of a series, and the sequel is out now...
** The funny thing is, the book's characterizations and ideas are internally consistent. The villains weren't [[Straw Feminist]]s. The protagonist wasn't a [[Kavorka Man]], just [[Mr. Fanservice]]. The [[Humans Are White|complete lack of nonwhites]] wasn't intended as racist—after all, why should a fantasy world mimic our own in racial diversity? Then the main character's sister {{spoiler|[[Face Heel Turn|joined the villains]] and promptly turned into a [[Depraved Bisexual]]}}. Arrgh! And this is the first of a series, and the sequel is out now...
* ''[[Dexter]] in the Dark.'' The events of this book bring in forces that had not been hinted at before and are barely hinted at later.
* ''[[Dexter]] in the Dark.'' The events of this book bring in forces that had not been hinted at before and are barely hinted at later.
** That bit seems to have been written out of the series by editor fiat, due to fan backlash.
** That bit seems to have been written out of the series by editor fiat, due to fan backlash.
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** [[Gainax Ending|The ending]] has also polarized the fans of the series: some find it to be [[Left Hanging|too enigmatic]] and [[What Happened to the Mouse?|inconclusive]].
** [[Gainax Ending|The ending]] has also polarized the fans of the series: some find it to be [[Left Hanging|too enigmatic]] and [[What Happened to the Mouse?|inconclusive]].
* For those of us who were able to get into the ''[[Stardoc]]'' series at all...{{spoiler|[[Tsundere|Dr. Cherijo Grey Veil Torin]] marrying [[Jerk Sue|Duncan Reever]]}}. Or at least {{spoiler|taking him back after all the [[Kick the Dog|dog-kicking]] and [[Heel Face Revolving Door|heel-face-flipflopping]] he does in ''Endurance''}}.
* For those of us who were able to get into the ''[[Stardoc]]'' series at all...{{spoiler|[[Tsundere|Dr. Cherijo Grey Veil Torin]] marrying [[Jerk Sue|Duncan Reever]]}}. Or at least {{spoiler|taking him back after all the [[Kick the Dog|dog-kicking]] and [[Heel Face Revolving Door|heel-face-flipflopping]] he does in ''Endurance''}}.
** Just when we thought it was getting better: if it wasn't the entire [[Laser-Guided Amnesia]] sequence, the last book—what with {{spoiler|[[Retcon|retconning]] the setting's entire history}} and all, much ''less'' Cherijo {{spoiler|forgiving Duncan for managing to ''entirely'' out-douchebag himself}} while {{spoiler|Xonea}} starts randomly being a [[Yandere (disambiguation)]] again—pretty much tore it.
** Just when we thought it was getting better: if it wasn't the entire [[Laser-Guided Amnesia]] sequence, the last book—what with {{spoiler|[[retcon]]ning the setting's entire history}} and all, much ''less'' Cherijo {{spoiler|forgiving Duncan for managing to ''entirely'' out-douchebag himself}} while {{spoiler|Xonea}} starts randomly being a [[Yandere (disambiguation)]] again—pretty much tore it.
* ''[[The Vampire Chronicles]]'' became this when Lestat 'found God.'
* ''[[The Vampire Chronicles]]'' became this when Lestat 'found God.'
** Goddamnit, Anne Rice, [[Creator Breakdown|chose your perspective on religion and stick with it!]] (I was going to say that 'there's only so many times you can back-track before you have to pretend you never wrote the books' but she already did that...)
** Goddamnit, Anne Rice, [[Creator Breakdown|chose your perspective on religion and stick with it!]] (I was going to say that 'there's only so many times you can back-track before you have to pretend you never wrote the books' but she already did that...)
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** The {{spoiler|[[Deus Ex Machina]]}} is what destroys the book for most of its negative audience.
** The {{spoiler|[[Deus Ex Machina]]}} is what destroys the book for most of its negative audience.
** Another major issue for some was that it was the ''Godfather Part III'' to the combined parts ''I'' and ''II'' of ''Night Watch''... impossible to follow.
** Another major issue for some was that it was the ''Godfather Part III'' to the combined parts ''I'' and ''II'' of ''Night Watch''... impossible to follow.
* The ''[[Redwall]]'' books have had some bad ones, mostly concerning the treatment of [[Always Chaotic Evil|vermin.]]
* The ''[[Redwall]]'' books have had some bad ones, mostly concerning the treatment of [[Exclusively Evil|vermin.]]
** In ''Eulalia'', there is an unusually bad-tempered watervole who is captured by the vermin army and dressed like one of them for a trap. He's captured by the Redwallers, and they discover he's not vermin; but then the protagonist who encountered him before mentions that he's a jerk. This is the cue for the Redwallers, who are usually caring and tolerant to anyone who's not actively trying to hurt them, to treat him like dirt, ''rough him up for information,'' refer to him as "that thing" and, the next day, ''banish him from the abbey forever'' for no particular reason. Now, he does murder one of them later, but maybe if they had treated him decently...
** In ''Eulalia'', there is an unusually bad-tempered watervole who is captured by the vermin army and dressed like one of them for a trap. He's captured by the Redwallers, and they discover he's not vermin; but then the protagonist who encountered him before mentions that he's a jerk. This is the cue for the Redwallers, who are usually caring and tolerant to anyone who's not actively trying to hurt them, to treat him like dirt, ''rough him up for information,'' refer to him as "that thing" and, the next day, ''banish him from the abbey forever'' for no particular reason. Now, he does murder one of them later, but maybe if they had treated him decently...
** The next one is in the book, ''Doomwyte.'' The villains are a flock of crows and their reptile allies. The actions of the heroes cause their cave to collapse; at the same time, a huge, insane viper is going berserk inside the cave and has killed most of them. The survivors, mostly reptiles, run for the exit and run into a "heroic" pack of mice and shrews who were on their way to confront them. The book explicitly states that the reptiles are just trying to get to the exit. The mice ''slaughter'' them.
** The next one is in the book, ''Doomwyte.'' The villains are a flock of crows and their reptile allies. The actions of the heroes cause their cave to collapse; at the same time, a huge, insane viper is going berserk inside the cave and has killed most of them. The survivors, mostly reptiles, run for the exit and run into a "heroic" pack of mice and shrews who were on their way to confront them. The book explicitly states that the reptiles are just trying to get to the exit. The mice ''slaughter'' them.
** From ''High Rhulain'': There is a scene in which, after the heroine kills a rat, she appears shaken and explains that she doesn't enjoy killing. Her father ''yells at her'' for this dislike of killing, and it is attributed to her being young and stupid. Her father also ruthlessly pursues a small group of rats who are probably in their early adolescence, hell-bent on killing them because there is a small chance they might attack Redwall. ''Three or four rat kids''.
** From ''High Rhulain'': There is a scene in which, after the heroine kills a rat, she appears shaken and explains that she doesn't enjoy killing. Her father ''yells at her'' for this dislike of killing, and it is attributed to her being young and stupid. Her father also ruthlessly pursues a small group of rats who are probably in their early adolescence, hell-bent on killing them because there is a small chance they might attack Redwall. ''Three or four rat kids''.
** From ''Triss'': You know who [[Evil Albino|Princess Kurda]], is, don't you Triss? The [[God Save Us From the Queen|black-hearted princess]] whose father murdered your father and enslaved your family? The person who killed old Drufo--your father's oldest and closest friend--in front of you [[Heroic Sacrifice|when he tried to get you to freedom?]] The girl who travelled halfway around the world to hunt you down like an animal? You remember? Good. Then explain what, providing that Kurda [[Hoist by His Own Petard|had watched where she was going at the battle's end]], you were doing to do with her, since you wouldn't kill the now-weaponless Princess "in cold blood". Were you just going to let her go, thereby making Drufo's death [[Senseless Sacrifice|unnecessary and pointless]] and enabling Kurda to keep coming at you?
** From ''Triss'': You know who [[Evil Albino|Princess Kurda]], is, don't you Triss? The [[God Save Us From the Queen|black-hearted princess]] whose father murdered your father and enslaved your family? The person who killed old Drufo—your father's oldest and closest friend—in front of you [[Heroic Sacrifice|when he tried to get you to freedom?]] The girl who travelled halfway around the world to hunt you down like an animal? You remember? Good. Then explain what, providing that Kurda [[Hoist by His Own Petard|had watched where she was going at the battle's end]], you were doing to do with her, since you wouldn't kill the now-weaponless Princess "in cold blood". Were you just going to let her go, thereby making Drufo's death [[Senseless Sacrifice|unnecessary and pointless]] and enabling Kurda to keep coming at you?
*** Another [[Wall Banger]] in that book is that Triss's journey back to Riftgard to free the slaves is just barely skimmed over in an epilogue, told from the point of view of another slave. ''Really?''
*** Another [[Wall Banger]] in that book is that Triss's journey back to Riftgard to free the slaves is just barely skimmed over in an epilogue, told from the point of view of another slave. ''Really?''
** From ''Outcast of Redwall'': Bryony casually dismissing Veil's [[Heroic Sacrifice]] at the end, saying, and I quote, "Veil was bad. I know that now." Um, lady? YOU RISKED YOUR LIFE TO BRING HIM BACK, HE SACRIFICED ''HIS'' LIFE TO SAVE YOURS, THE ABBESS HERSELF SAYS THAT THIS PROVED THAT THERE WAS SOME GOOD IN VEIL, ''AND NOW YOU'RE JUST WRITING HIM OFF AS A BAD SEED?'' What's worse, after Bryony says this, Abbess Miriam immediately decides that this makes her worthy to become the next Abbess when she steps down. THUD.
** From ''Outcast of Redwall'': Bryony casually dismissing Veil's [[Heroic Sacrifice]] at the end, saying, and I quote, "Veil was bad. I know that now." Um, lady? YOU RISKED YOUR LIFE TO BRING HIM BACK, HE SACRIFICED ''HIS'' LIFE TO SAVE YOURS, THE ABBESS HERSELF SAYS THAT THIS PROVED THAT THERE WAS SOME GOOD IN VEIL, ''AND NOW YOU'RE JUST WRITING HIM OFF AS A BAD SEED?'' What's worse, after Bryony says this, Abbess Miriam immediately decides that this makes her worthy to become the next Abbess when she steps down. THUD.
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** Each member of the Flock could beat a black-belt with minimal effort. This is completely uncool.
** Each member of the Flock could beat a black-belt with minimal effort. This is completely uncool.
** The Flock's insistence that they don't need adults (except Max's super cool mom cause she is the best mom ever!!!!) for ''anything''. And then Max has the gall to complain that every time someone offers them something, they want something in return. Well Max, there's this group where adults give you stuff with nothing in return but a thank you (though knowing you even that would be too much), it's called "Children"! Make up your mind, you can't have the best stuff from both sides!
** The Flock's insistence that they don't need adults (except Max's super cool mom cause she is the best mom ever!!!!) for ''anything''. And then Max has the gall to complain that every time someone offers them something, they want something in return. Well Max, there's this group where adults give you stuff with nothing in return but a thank you (though knowing you even that would be too much), it's called "Children"! Make up your mind, you can't have the best stuff from both sides!
* James Patterson also ended ''The Lake House'' with one. In the final chapter, the [[Big Bad]] -- who for most of the book was quite intelligent and was even on the verge of pulling off a [[Karma Houdini]] -- suddenly gets the urge to send the hundreds of heavily armed [[Mooks]] he has at his beck and call out for a smoke break so he can pursue the hero alone, unarmed, and with no backup. Talk about picking up the [[Villain Ball]] and bludgeoning yourself to death with it.
* James Patterson also ended ''The Lake House'' with one. In the final chapter, the [[Big Bad]]—who for most of the book was quite intelligent and was even on the verge of pulling off a [[Karma Houdini]]—suddenly gets the urge to send the hundreds of heavily armed [[Mooks]] he has at his beck and call out for a smoke break so he can pursue the hero alone, unarmed, and with no backup. Talk about picking up the [[Villain Ball]] and bludgeoning yourself to death with it.
** The fight ends with the [[Big Bad]] attempting to push the hero (who can fly) out of a window and being dragged to his death. [[Villain Ball]] is putting it mildly.
** The fight ends with the [[Big Bad]] attempting to push the hero (who can fly) out of a window and being dragged to his death. [[Villain Ball]] is putting it mildly.
* While the ending to ''[[Much Ado About Nothing]]'' is undeniably [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming|heartwarming]], if you look at it by [[Values Dissonance|today's standards]], it becomes one of the most absurd cases of [[Easily Forgiven]] in classic literature.
* While the ending to ''[[Much Ado About Nothing]]'' is undeniably [[Crowning Moment of Heartwarming|heartwarming]], if you look at it by [[Values Dissonance|today's standards]], it becomes one of the most absurd cases of [[Easily Forgiven]] in classic literature.
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**** Of course, that's probably the least of the book's [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|WallBangers]].
**** Of course, that's probably the least of the book's [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|WallBangers]].
* Licia Trosi's ''[[Chronicles of the Emerged World]]'' (official English title can be something else, if someone can correct me, please do) is painfully cliched Eragonesque fantasy trilogy. It hit wall in about 1/3 of first book. [[Doomed Hometown]] of [[Mary Sue]] heroine is a city - tower. It's implied to be really tall with multiple windows. It stands in the middle of plain, plain that is flat as a table. Attacking army of Orc-like creatures is not noticed by anyone until it's by the gates. 'Cause armies are something that moves stealthy.
* Licia Trosi's ''[[Chronicles of the Emerged World]]'' (official English title can be something else, if someone can correct me, please do) is painfully cliched Eragonesque fantasy trilogy. It hit wall in about 1/3 of first book. [[Doomed Hometown]] of [[Mary Sue]] heroine is a city - tower. It's implied to be really tall with multiple windows. It stands in the middle of plain, plain that is flat as a table. Attacking army of Orc-like creatures is not noticed by anyone until it's by the gates. 'Cause armies are something that moves stealthy.
* I '''love''' [[Jane Austen]], but... Anne Elliot's "[[I Regret Nothing]]" speech at the end of ''[[Persuasion]]'' -- [[Anvilicious]], [[Values Dissonance]], [[Double Standard]], [[Broken Aesop]], and blatant [[Hypocrite|hypocrisy]]. Either Anne or [[Jane Austen]] is trying to "have it both ways." If Anne had defended her decision eight years ago on grounds such as "I now realize that Lady Russell was right for keeping us apart, but for different reasons, and it wouldn't have been safe to get married under such circumstances," it would have at least been fair and consistent. But Anne admits that her own reasoning is that the advice was wrong, but she (Anne) ''was right to yield to it for no other reason than because it's a woman's "duty" to yield to the advice of friends!'' Anne asserts she was right to take what she has since learned to be bad advice, not on the grounds that it turned out to be right in the long run or could have turned out so just as easily, but because she was yielding to persuasion period. Either Anne or Austen just can't bear to have Anne admit she was wrong, and since Wentworth agrees with her completely, and since this is completely consistent with the [[Anvilicious|anviliciousness]] of Louisa Musgrove's accident, it's not meant to be ironic. Instead of treating the theme of persuasion maturely (that may not have been Austen's title, but it ''is'' a prominent theme nonetheless), Anne turns it into a black-and-white issue: not yielding to persuasion (like Louisa) is always wrong, and yielding to persuasion (like Anne) is always right... if you're a woman. A man should be firm, or they'll suffer like Wentworth for yielding to Louisa and Mr. Smith for yielding to Mr. Elliot. I'll take my Austen novels with [[Mansfield Park|subtlety]] and my Austen heroines who [[Sense and Sensibility (novel)|actually apologize]] for [[Pride and Prejudice|their error]] and [[Emma|learn something]] besides never to doubt their own perfection, thank you very much.
* I '''love''' [[Jane Austen]], but... Anne Elliot's "[[I Regret Nothing]]" speech at the end of ''[[Persuasion]]'' -- [[Anvilicious]], [[Values Dissonance]], [[Double Standard]], [[Broken Aesop]], and blatant [[Hypocrite|hypocrisy]]. Either Anne or [[Jane Austen]] is trying to "have it both ways." If Anne had defended her decision eight years ago on grounds such as "I now realize that Lady Russell was right for keeping us apart, but for different reasons, and it wouldn't have been safe to get married under such circumstances," it would have at least been fair and consistent. But Anne admits that her own reasoning is that the advice was wrong, but she (Anne) ''was right to yield to it for no other reason than because it's a woman's "duty" to yield to the advice of friends!'' Anne asserts she was right to take what she has since learned to be bad advice, not on the grounds that it turned out to be right in the long run or could have turned out so just as easily, but because she was yielding to persuasion period. Either Anne or Austen just can't bear to have Anne admit she was wrong, and since Wentworth agrees with her completely, and since this is completely consistent with the [[anvilicious]]ness of Louisa Musgrove's accident, it's not meant to be ironic. Instead of treating the theme of persuasion maturely (that may not have been Austen's title, but it ''is'' a prominent theme nonetheless), Anne turns it into a black-and-white issue: not yielding to persuasion (like Louisa) is always wrong, and yielding to persuasion (like Anne) is always right... if you're a woman. A man should be firm, or they'll suffer like Wentworth for yielding to Louisa and Mr. Smith for yielding to Mr. Elliot. I'll take my Austen novels with [[Mansfield Park|subtlety]] and my Austen heroines who [[Sense and Sensibility (novel)|actually apologize]] for [[Pride and Prejudice|their error]] and [[Emma|learn something]] besides never to doubt their own perfection, thank you very much.
* ''[[Dracula the Un-Dead]]'' -- Adaptations that reinterpret Mina's traumatic metaphorical rape as something romantic are bad enough, but to do so while claiming you're reclaiming the franchise for the original novel?! Well, Freud would have loved yet another example of support for his misogynist theory that all women are masochists. Ladies, rape is hot! If you don't agree, you're a prude! Denying your sexuality! That is not allowed!
* ''[[Dracula the Un-Dead]]''—Adaptations that reinterpret Mina's traumatic metaphorical rape as something romantic are bad enough, but to do so while claiming you're reclaiming the franchise for the original novel?! Well, Freud would have loved yet another example of support for his misogynist theory that all women are masochists. Ladies, rape is hot! If you don't agree, you're a prude! Denying your sexuality! That is not allowed!
** There's also the fact that the novel [[Retcon|calls the predecessor as "nothing but lies"]]. [[Flat What|WHAT?!]] And don't forget about the massive [[Character Derailment]], the portrayal of Bram Stoker himself, the {{spoiler|"[[Luke, I Am Your Father]]"}} twist, the blatant sex, and ugh, this is making my head hurt.
** There's also the fact that the novel [[Retcon|calls the predecessor as "nothing but lies"]]. [[Flat What|WHAT?!]] And don't forget about the massive [[Character Derailment]], the portrayal of Bram Stoker himself, the {{spoiler|"[[Luke, I Am Your Father]]"}} twist, the blatant sex, and ugh, this is making my head hurt.
*** There's a tendency among revisionist literature to deride the canon which it is revising, which just seems a bit cheap.
*** There's a tendency among revisionist literature to deride the canon which it is revising, which just seems a bit cheap.
* [[Artemis Fowl]] : He's supposed to be an awesome genius but in the fourth book when he's in trouble and has some kind of digital handcuffs he asked to Holly how many digits the password has. She said that three and then stated that there were thousands of possibilities... Artemis replies that there are millions. Now if you have 3 digits in which each can have 10 different possibilities (0 to 9) then you have 10^3 = 1000 possibilities. MASSIVE [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] !!
* [[Artemis Fowl]] : He's supposed to be an awesome genius but in the fourth book when he's in trouble and has some kind of digital handcuffs he asked to Holly how many digits the password has. She said that three and then stated that there were thousands of possibilities... Artemis replies that there are millions. Now if you have 3 digits in which each can have 10 different possibilities (0 to 9) then you have 10^3 = 1000 possibilities. MASSIVE [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] !!
** Especially when in a situation like that, you don't even have to use math. Just realize that each possible combination is a different number, going from 000 to 999. That requires almost no thought at all, and yet super genius Artemis Fowl was off by a magnitude of 3 or 4. Then again, 1000 combinations is still too many to test out when pressed for time, but still.
** Especially when in a situation like that, you don't even have to use math. Just realize that each possible combination is a different number, going from 000 to 999. That requires almost no thought at all, and yet super genius Artemis Fowl was off by a magnitude of 3 or 4. Then again, 1000 combinations is still too many to test out when pressed for time, but still.
* ''[[World War Z]]'' was a good book, but the zombies are pretty transparently engineered to overcome traditional zombie weaknesses so they can't be killed. Take a look at [http://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outbreak-would-fail-quickly.html this Cracked list]. Solanum zombies are poison to animals<ref>which wouldn't necessarily keep animals from ''trying'' to eat 'em, but the strange ability of every species ''except'' humanity to somehow know not to tell Zombies are toxic would</ref>, can freeze and thaw and still function, have no noticeable effects from heat, can apparently spread via black-market organ transfers<ref>Note that every infectee who dies rises as a zombie a few minutes later, regardless of how they died. Which means that people died in hospitals, yet somehow ''didn't'' rise in the middle of a crowded ward, which would provoke a health scare.</ref>(which makes sense), the barriers are all ignored(including closing and locking a standard frakking door, which will stop most people in full control of their cognitive functions, much less zombies), and the military somehow can't find it's butt with both hands, making tactical decisions a third-world militia would be too smart to make. In addition to that, zombies somehow don't need senses to see. And they can survive at the bottom of the ocean, with the interviewees pointing out that between the pressure and salt water, they should be paste<ref>They can walk along the sea floor, which is weird, cause dead bodies float.</ref>. It basically stops one bit short of declaring the zombies "magic". And if this deck-stacking weren't enough, humanity is a bunch of complete idiots who have apparently ''never seen a zombie movie in their lives''. Also, against all logic and real-world behavior, the mainstream news suppresses the news of the dead walking because they don't want to cause an economic downturn. IIRC, it was because the placebo Solanum medicine was so popular, they didn't want to reveal it didn't work. Which means that the "African Flu" was well known enough to have a large portion of the economy dependent on a medicine for it, but not enough for significant amounts of people to actually know what it is. The vast amount of legal and illegal guns circulating in the US alone? Ignored entirely. Also, one blog is mentioned before the outbreak. One blog. The entire nerdy blogosphere would crap their pants over the news that zombies were real. And then we find out that it was tearing up the message boards, but ''only in Japan''. Said otaku were members smart enough to hack the emails of gov't officials, yet none of them apparently located a news service or published it on their fricking blog. In fact, the story we hear is from an otaku who relates how the other posters just started dropping off, with the implication that they were either dying of self-neglect, trying to get to safety, or being killed. The narrator's parents had actually left for some time before he was spurred into action by running out of food. Basically, the [[NEET]]s knew exactly what was going on, but ''none of them told anybody'' until it was far too late.<br /><br />It's a good book, but Brooks had to stack the deck ''and'' put a few aces up his sleeve.
* ''[[World War Z]]'' was a good book, but the zombies are pretty transparently engineered to overcome traditional zombie weaknesses so they can't be killed. Take a look at [http://www.cracked.com/article_18683_7-scientific-reasons-zombie-outbreak-would-fail-quickly.html this Cracked list]. Solanum zombies are poison to animals,<ref>which wouldn't necessarily keep animals from ''trying'' to eat 'em, but the strange ability of every species ''except'' humanity to somehow know not to tell Zombies are toxic would</ref> can freeze and thaw and still function, have no noticeable effects from heat, can apparently spread via black-market organ transfers<ref>Note that every infectee who dies rises as a zombie a few minutes later, regardless of how they died. Which means that people died in hospitals, yet somehow ''didn't'' rise in the middle of a crowded ward, which would provoke a health scare.</ref>(which makes sense), the barriers are all ignored(including closing and locking a standard frakking door, which will stop most people in full control of their cognitive functions, much less zombies), and the military somehow can't find it's butt with both hands, making tactical decisions a third-world militia would be too smart to make. In addition to that, zombies somehow don't need senses to see. And they can survive at the bottom of the ocean, with the interviewees pointing out that between the pressure and salt water, they should be paste.<ref>They can walk along the sea floor, which is weird, cause dead bodies float.</ref> It basically stops one bit short of declaring the zombies "magic". And if this deck-stacking weren't enough, humanity is a bunch of complete idiots who have apparently ''never seen a zombie movie in their lives''. Also, against all logic and real-world behavior, the mainstream news suppresses the news of the dead walking because they don't want to cause an economic downturn. IIRC, it was because the placebo Solanum medicine was so popular, they didn't want to reveal it didn't work. Which means that the "African Flu" was well known enough to have a large portion of the economy dependent on a medicine for it, but not enough for significant amounts of people to actually know what it is. The vast amount of legal and illegal guns circulating in the US alone? Ignored entirely. Also, one blog is mentioned before the outbreak. One blog. The entire nerdy blogosphere would crap their pants over the news that zombies were real. And then we find out that it was tearing up the message boards, but ''only in Japan''. Said otaku were members smart enough to hack the emails of gov't officials, yet none of them apparently located a news service or published it on their fricking blog. In fact, the story we hear is from an otaku who relates how the other posters just started dropping off, with the implication that they were either dying of self-neglect, trying to get to safety, or being killed. The narrator's parents had actually left for some time before he was spurred into action by running out of food. Basically, the [[NEET]]s knew exactly what was going on, but ''none of them told anybody'' until it was far too late.

It's a good book, but Brooks had to stack the deck ''and'' put a few aces up his sleeve.
** This troper agrees with a lot of what you just said, except for a few things. Brooks is at least internally consistent: for example, the zombies don't float in water because they aren't decaying as fast as normal corpses, because Solanum is basically toxic to all life, including bacteria. Most of the problems that you have with WWZ are explained in "The Zombie Survival Guide", another book by Brooks. Absolutely hilarious, as well.
** This troper agrees with a lot of what you just said, except for a few things. Brooks is at least internally consistent: for example, the zombies don't float in water because they aren't decaying as fast as normal corpses, because Solanum is basically toxic to all life, including bacteria. Most of the problems that you have with WWZ are explained in "The Zombie Survival Guide", another book by Brooks. Absolutely hilarious, as well.
*** It's entirely unprecedented to have a disease that somehow turns flesh into something that is toxic to everything, with a 100% communicability and fatality rate. Even the Black Plague had carriers; fleas. Also, if people were dying before they could be infected fully, and the disease cannot infect people who are already dead, then it's impossible for flesh that wasn't infected before death to become infected. Basically, everything about Solanum is impossible (starting with, oh, ''sodomizing the law of conservation of energy'' by making zombies function for years without consuming any nutrients), and the [[MST3K Mantra]] doesn't work specifically because the canon spends so much time explaining it in scientific terms, only to handwave or ignore inconvenient questions.
*** It's entirely unprecedented to have a disease that somehow turns flesh into something that is toxic to everything, with a 100% communicability and fatality rate. Even the Black Plague had carriers; fleas. Also, if people were dying before they could be infected fully, and the disease cannot infect people who are already dead, then it's impossible for flesh that wasn't infected before death to become infected. Basically, everything about Solanum is impossible (starting with, oh, ''sodomizing the law of conservation of energy'' by making zombies function for years without consuming any nutrients), and the [[MST3K Mantra]] doesn't work specifically because the canon spends so much time explaining it in scientific terms, only to handwave or ignore inconvenient questions.
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** In the same vein, ''[[The Zombie Survival Guide]]'' was ostensibly a humor book, parodying extremely serious survival guides. But by about the second chapter you realise that Brooks is '''absolutely''' serious about surviving ''real zombies''. Zombies that ''he made up''. It's filled with numerous [[Take That]] shots against other zombie works, for being "unrealistic" when they are '''''more realistic than his''''', and ridicules fast ([[Technically Living Zombie]]) zombies for [[Hypocrite|being biologically impossible]] when they are far more realistic than his. If you are a firearm or weapons fan, [[Guns Do Not Work That Way|just rip out]] [[Flynning|and burn]] [[Hollywood Tactics|that section of the book.]]
** In the same vein, ''[[The Zombie Survival Guide]]'' was ostensibly a humor book, parodying extremely serious survival guides. But by about the second chapter you realise that Brooks is '''absolutely''' serious about surviving ''real zombies''. Zombies that ''he made up''. It's filled with numerous [[Take That]] shots against other zombie works, for being "unrealistic" when they are '''''more realistic than his''''', and ridicules fast ([[Technically Living Zombie]]) zombies for [[Hypocrite|being biologically impossible]] when they are far more realistic than his. If you are a firearm or weapons fan, [[Guns Do Not Work That Way|just rip out]] [[Flynning|and burn]] [[Hollywood Tactics|that section of the book.]]
* [[Robert A. Heinlein]] with ''[[The Number of the Beast]]''-- (no, really, the dash is part of the title apparently) is a double [[Wall Banger]]. First with the introduction of the most misandristic, emasculating woman ever in Hilda, who proceeds to use her power when in the captain's seat to get what she wants, then force responsibility on whoever is there when she isn't to again get what she wants. The second part is where they start hopping universes to other fiction, and then they visit frickin' [[Land of Oz|Oz]]. Oz, in what's supposed to be a serious SF novel.
* [[Robert A. Heinlein]] with ''[[The Number of the Beast]]''-- (no, really, the dash is part of the title apparently) is a double [[Wall Banger]]. First with the introduction of the most misandristic, emasculating woman ever in Hilda, who proceeds to use her power when in the captain's seat to get what she wants, then force responsibility on whoever is there when she isn't to again get what she wants. The second part is where they start hopping universes to other fiction, and then they visit frickin' [[Land of Oz|Oz]]. Oz, in what's supposed to be a serious SF novel.
* Steven Wakefield in ''Sweet Valley Confidential''. Or, more specifically, his [[Suddenly Sexuality]]. Especially when he had married one woman (Cara), was engaged to another (Billie) until shortly after she miscarried, and had a nervous breakdown over Tricia's death (to the point where he broke up with Cara ''twice'' to pursue [[Identical Stranger|Identical Strangers]] who looked like her. It wasn't until one of them called him out on it that he snapped out of it.). This makes no sense if you followed the ''[[Sweet Valley High]]'' series.
* Steven Wakefield in ''Sweet Valley Confidential''. Or, more specifically, his [[Suddenly Sexuality]]. Especially when he had married one woman (Cara), was engaged to another (Billie) until shortly after she miscarried, and had a nervous breakdown over Tricia's death (to the point where he broke up with Cara ''twice'' to pursue [[Identical Stranger]]s who looked like her. It wasn't until one of them called him out on it that he snapped out of it.). This makes no sense if you followed the ''[[Sweet Valley High]]'' series.
* While the [[Twist Ending|twist endings]] in the ''[[Goosebumps]]'' series of books can be pretty silly at times, a special mention must go to ''Welcome To Camp Nightmare'' for being so ridiculous it becomes a sheer [[Wall Banger]]. See, throughout most of the book the protagonist is persued by a monster in the woods that has already claimed his friends as its victims. Then, {{spoiler|it turns out that the monster isn't real, the fake monster was a test to see if the protagonist could think quickly under stressful and dangerous situations, and it turns out the protagonist and everyone else are aliens who are actually training to travel to Earth.}} Wait... what? The first two parts of the ending, fine. A little silly, but fine. But {{spoiler|aliens?}} Really? It doesn't make any sense. Yes, the other twist endings of the books came out of nowhere at times too, but at least ''they'' had some semblance of logic in the stories' settings.
* While the [[Twist Ending|twist endings]] in the ''[[Goosebumps]]'' series of books can be pretty silly at times, a special mention must go to ''Welcome To Camp Nightmare'' for being so ridiculous it becomes a sheer [[Wall Banger]]. See, throughout most of the book the protagonist is persued by a monster in the woods that has already claimed his friends as its victims. Then, {{spoiler|it turns out that the monster isn't real, the fake monster was a test to see if the protagonist could think quickly under stressful and dangerous situations, and it turns out the protagonist and everyone else are aliens who are actually training to travel to Earth.}} Wait... what? The first two parts of the ending, fine. A little silly, but fine. But {{spoiler|aliens?}} Really? It doesn't make any sense. Yes, the other twist endings of the books came out of nowhere at times too, but at least ''they'' had some semblance of logic in the stories' settings.
** It should probably be mentioned that ''My Best Friend Is Invisible'' had probably an even dumber ending. It turns out that all of the characters we've met so far are also actually aliens who have already invaded and conquered Earth and the invisible guy was a surviving human. Why was he invisible? His parents were wizards or something.
** It should probably be mentioned that ''My Best Friend Is Invisible'' had probably an even dumber ending. It turns out that all of the characters we've met so far are also actually aliens who have already invaded and conquered Earth and the invisible guy was a surviving human. Why was he invisible? His parents were wizards or something.