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WWE = "World [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] Entertainment"? Probably not, but these examples of stupid moments in WWE programming may leave viewers doing more than simply [[WWE/Headscratchers|scratching their heads]].
 
* [[Wall Banger/Professional Wrestling/Wrestlemania|Wrestlemania]]
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* The Alliance. Shane McMahon buying WCW could have worked. Fans were tired of the endless McMahon vs McMahon feuds, but at least this made ''sense''. But when WCW was abruptly joined by two former ECW stars and the angle suddenly switched to WCW and ECW against WWF, interest skyrocketed... right up until the owner of ECW was revealed to be [[Stephanie McMahon]].
** What really made this [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] was that the original ECW owner Paul Heyman was currently an announcer for WWF and was an active part of the Alliance storyline (and does wonderfully as an obnoxious heel),T meaning there was absolutely no reason whatsoever for Stephanie to be the "owner" of ECW other than to have the Chairman's daughter in a major storyline role.
*** Even worse is the fact that if Vince felt it absolutely mandatory to have Stephanie be part of the storyline, she and Shane could simply have been co-owners of WCW. There is no reason why this couldn't have worked. There was even potential for the two to have a bit of sibling rivalry where one or both of them didn't ''want'' to be co-owners and wanted the other out of the Alliance.
** Furthermore, there are many fans who couldn't stand the actual "Alliance" aspect. Originally, the implication was that the ECW wrestlers were going to be a [[Wild Card]] third element that would fight against both "major federations", and this was a very enticing element. But, no, we got Stephanie in a dumb hat.
* Since going PG, WWE has a real [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] whenever somebody bleeds. At first, it wasn't so bad; wrestlers were not allowed to cut themselves to bleed anymore, but it didn't hurt the matches. However, if a wrestler is opened up hardway (starts bleeding unintentionally due to the match) then paramedics come out to stitch him mid-match, meaning absolutely all momentum grinds to a halt. This was really shown during a ladder match between [[Christian]] and Shelton Benjamin. While the paramedics were closing Christian's cut Shelton was free to climb up the ladder. The match was going quite well up until that point.
** Justified in the example of the Holly vs Van Dam match where [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slFnDMj1JLk a table left a several inch laceration on Holly's back].
*** Footage of that particular match was shown for quite a while afterward, mainly due to the fact that [[Determinator|Holly finished the match]].
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*** Technically, Stone Cold was a "tweener", a Grey Area [[Black and Grey Morality|neither-good-nor-evil]] fighter between a [[The Hero|Face]] and a [[Card-Carrying Villain|Heel]]. The only reason he was thought of as a Face from a technical standpoint is because he was so ''awesome'' as soon as he came on screen, the crowd (including Yours Truly) would mark out and start chanting ''''AUSTIN AUSTIN AUSTIN'''' like five year olds. Realistically then the idea of a tweener making a [[Face Heel Turn]] is kind of like Deadpool doing a [[Face Heel Turn]]. It shouldn't (key word: ''shouldn't'') surprise anyone. But because of the enormous popularity of Stone Cold, yeah it kind of came across as a [[Vince Russo|swerve.]]
*** Though what made him a tweener (attacking all kinds and being rebellious) wasn't what turned him heel. It was selling out to [[Vince McMahon]] which nobody bought after his years of being an anti-authoritarian blue collar anti-hero.
* [[World Wrestling Entertainment|WWE]] has a continuing [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] in their insistence on using the terms "sports entertainment" and "entertainer" instead of "wrestling" and "wrestler". Yes, yes, we all know [[Kayfabe|wrestling is fake]], but it seriously hurts [[Willing Suspension of Disbelief]] when you're reminded of that fact every five minutes.
** Justified - though not any less wallbanger-worthy - in that you can't copyright "wrestler", but can copyright "sports entertainer". Of course, why they switched to that from the pretentious, but less-stupid sounding "WWE Superstar"... ''' ''shrugs'' '''
*** It's believed that because [[Professional Wrestling]] gets so little respect from the mainstream media, Vince is actually trying to pretend his product ''isn't professional wrestling''. Also, since Vince markets it as "entertainment" rather than "sport", he's not required to follow the safety protocols that actual sports have (e.g. ambulances on the ready), or file the necessary insurance and license fees other sporting events require. Basically, Vince only has to pay the arenas the fees that a monster truck show or other cultural events would have to pay, and with no other legal obligation... hey, to the arena owners, money is money.
***** In fact, on WWE's "Stand up for WWE" page (another wallbanger in itself, but I'll let someone else take care of that) they call WWE pure entertainment and compare it to such things as Ringling Brothers and the Harlem Globetrotters.
***** Only one state - Oregon - still treats pro wrestling like a real sport, holding wrestling to the same standards of drug testing and safety that boxing is subject to. Which is why WWE rarely does shows in Oregon.
***** The whole "wrestler vs superstar" thing was even lampshaded when [[Joey Styles]], who was temporarily announcing for Raw took off in a flying moment of rage after being completely harassed for several weeks by the likes of Heidenreich and the Spirit Squad (separately) and he proceeds to leave, but not before, at the top of the entrance ramp, going into a rant about how "Back in ECW, we called them what they were, wrestlers! What do we call them here in the WWE? ''SUPERSTAAARS!''" He was announcing for the new ECW not long afterward. [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|And calling the wrestlers "extremists".]]
****** Many of the fans cheered madly when Joey had finished. The internet wrestling community, which has always loathed Vince's attempts to deny being a wrestling promoter, almost nominated him for sainthood.
**** It's gotten so ridiculous that when TV Week.com ran a story on Drew Carey's induction into the WWE's hall of fame, a WWE publicist actually emailed them to complain about the article's headline: "Drew Carey Inducted Into Pro Wrestling Hall of Fame. Huh? Drew Carey??!!" and '''demand''' that it be changed. The reason? Quote: ''“We are no longer a wrestling company but rather a global entertainment company with a movie studio, international licensing deals, publisher of three magazines, consumer good distributor and more.”'' The original writer removed the article rather than change it. Full details [https://web.archive.org/web/20130721043453/http://www.tvweek.com/blogs/2011/03/whoaa-nellie-when-brands-go-horribly-wrong-pstvince-mcmahon-and-the-wwe-are-no-longer-in-the-wrestli.php here.]
* WWE's treatment of light heavyweights/cruiserweights in general. In the mid-late 90s they decided to get into cruiserweight wrestling to compete with WCW's cruiserweight division, and they brought in Japanese high-flyer Taka Michinoku as the centerpiece. They then never let Taka win any matches aside from occasional Light Heavyweight title defenses, and in fact kept their lightweight wrestlers completely isolated from the rest of the roster - making it clear they had no intentions of pushing any of them or making the division actually matter. So of course it failed to get over. Then in 2001 they did the ''exact same thing''. They decided to reactivate the division and build it around a guy named Essa Rios. And then they never let Rios win any matches. Rios ended up becoming [[The Jannetty]] to his valet Lita. During the InVasion, the title was merged with the WCW Cruiserweight Title. The Cruiserweight Title fared better due to lacking the stigma of being the "afterthought belt", but it went the same way as mentioned above.
** The only other notable light heavyweight in the company at the same time as Michinoku was Brian Christopher, and they really had nobody to feud with apart from each other. And Christopher himself was hardly the Cruiserweight-style "high flier" the division truly needed -- he was just a standard American-style heavyweight wrestler, scaled down.
* [[Wrestler/Kane (wrestling)|Kane]]'s unmasking.
** Not so much the unmasking itself, but the feud with Shane McMahon and the resulting [[Badass Decay]] and [[Character Derailment]]. For about a month after the unmasking, Kane was the most interesting thing in WWE.
** The make-up not working filled it with [[Narm]] though.
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* [[John Cena]] vs. [[The Miz]], full-stop. This feud built up over the span of two months with Miz calling out Cena at every opportunity and laying into him verbally with some genuinely clever insults that started to make Miz one of the biggest heat magnets in the company. When it comes time to step up and fight Cena one-on-one? And on pay-per-view, no less? Cena makes it a [[Curb Stomp Battle]] wherein Miz gets virtually no offense and gives up clean inside five minutes.
** What makes the squash at ''The Bash 2009'' even worse is that the very next night on ''Raw'', Cena and Miz had another match together, and while Miz did eventually job to Cena again, he did so only after getting in a wide array of offense and countering many of Cena's trademark maneuvers, leading many to think that THIS was the match they should have put on at ''The Bash''.
*** [[It Got Worse|BUT IT DIDN'T STOP THERE]]. The Miz would go on to tap out to Cena for the next ''3 consecutive weeks'' on Raw. Many thought that the Miz would never recover from that burial, but he would be [[Rescued Fromfrom the Scrappy Heap]] and become a double champion with the Unified Tag Team Title and US Title (which means he was carrying around THREE belts).
*** And now he is Mr. Money in the Bank. John Cena burying the Miz was the best that's happened to him.
**** One thing has nothing to do with the other. You might as well say that Jack Swagger going on a long losing streak where he was made to look about as threatening as a kitten led directly to his MITB win. It didn't. It was a case of WWE making a wrestler look bad, and then changing their minds and deciding to make him look good. That's what they did with The Miz; they jobbed him out to where nobody took him seriously, and then they built him back up. If they wanted to turn him into a main eventer, there's absolutely no reason why they couldn't have skipped the Cena feud entirely and gone straight to the U.S. Title feud with Kofi Kingston. His reign as United States Champion is where his rise to the top ''really'' began.
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** Candice Michelle got fired for the same reason - she gained a little weight while off rehabbing an injury so they fired her.
** Candice wasn't so much as fired for putting on weight so much as she was let go for being too injury-prone. Ironic considering how much mileage WWE gets/got out of Triple H and Batista who stay/stayed injured frequently during their tenures in the company.
** That's exactly the reason why Nora Greenwald aka Molly Holly quit altogether. By invoking [[Hollywood Homely]] to the point of [[Values Dissonance]], Molly went from hillbilly Juliet (Spike Dudley was the Romeo,) to [[The Comically Serious|a brunette no-nonsense prude]] to a [[FatUnintentionally MonicaUnsympathetic]]. Never mind that she was credible enough to train other women or remain one of the few legit competitors in a growing era of [[Faux Action Girl|contest-winning models,]] Vince was so fixated on her being a "fat-ass" and '''NOT'not'' in the [[Baby Got Back]] kind of way that she finally got fed up and quit the business to do missionary work.
** Don't forget, Dawn Marie was fired because she got ''pregnant''. Johnny Ace, [[This Is Your Life|This is your]] [[Dethroning Moment of Suck]].
*** People need to realize that any time Vince uses "she was too fat" as the reason for why he fired a Diva, it's not the real reason. "She was too fat" is code for "That bitch wouldn't give me/one of my favorite big guys a lapdance", plain and simple. Vince no longer cares about the quality of women's wrestling and only cares about who will sleep with him and his big guys (hence why Michelle McCool was getting pushed to the moon). If he ''did'' care about women's wrestling, the Tramp Stamp Title wouldn't exist, half the Diva's wouldn't have even gotten out of development, and somebody '''credible''' (Kharma, [[Beth Phoenix]], Natalya, Gail Kim, AJ, Tamina, Melina, ''Jillian freaking Hall'') would be feuding for the Women's Championship.
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** The real kicker for this is that while the Unified Tag Team Championship match was included on the DVD for the event as a bonus feature, the [[Kid Rock]] performance was actually excised from the show itself.
** And speaking of the "Miss WrestleMania" battle royal, who won it? Santino Marella in drag. Nothing else needs to be said.
** Lita, it seems, [httphttps://web.archive.org/web/20200409034840/https://www.wrestleview.com/viewnews.php?id=1248039659 did have something to say.] [[Captain Obvious|It]] [[Cluster F-Bomb|wasn't]] pretty.
* One of the biggest wall bangers in WWE right now is the HUGE double standard between men and women. Men have to be good wrestlers, that's it. Women don't necessarily have to be good wrestlers, and in fact, many were fitness models and cheerleaders before signing with WWE. It seems that the one requirement of being a Diva is at least a C cup. Some examples of how bad it's gotten:
** The Titles: Some of the recent champions have done much better than fans expected them to, but it doesn't change the fact that the most talented workers are struggling to get airtime. Beth is injured, granted; but Jillian can't escape her joke character, Natalya is playing arm candy for the Hart Dynasty and it's believed Gail is being buried as punishment for working for TNA. Above and beyond that is the appearance of the titles; the Women's championship is OK, but the Diva's championship just plain looks ridiculous, with a giant pink butterfly as the central motif. [[Fan Nickname|Fans have dubbed it]] the "Tramp Stamp Title".
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** It isn't so much a belief that supermodel-material divas can't be good wrestlers, it's more that we've seen time and time again that the booking and writing prioritize how they look way more than how good they are. Sure most of the women on the roster have improved, but if they would hire them based on their skill as the main priority, we wouldn't need them to improve like that.
*** Again, this isn't just the women. All the men in WWE are hired for their looks as well. Take a look at the main roster - the majority of guys in there are muscle-bound, in good shape and reasonably attractive. The exceptions are ones who have been there for years like Kane and the Undertaker or ones with the "freak" factor like Big Show and Mark Henry. And for the record, '''all''' new divas getting signed have to train in FCW now. True a lot of the Diva Search contestants got put on TV without any training (Ashley Massaro has spoken up saying management only trained her on a per-match basis) but these days everyone who gets signed trains in FCW so nobody gets put on TV without any experience.
** Gail Kim \[https://web.archive.org/web/20110830105650/http://www.ringsidenews.com/news/gail-kim-posts-several-twitter-messages-criticizing-wwe-s-use-of-divas/ actually took WWE creative to task over how they book the Divas nowadays.] And yet even despite this you'll still have people assuming it's the talent's fault why the modern division is in a dire state of affairs instead of calling out the true guilty parties.
* ''SummerSlam'' 2010; in the big first showdown between WWE and [[The Nexus]], WWE wins. Not great on its own, but what kills it is the details; it came down to Cena against two of the top men in Nexus. After being beaten badly by them, by a traitorous Edge and Jericho, and by the other members of the group just a little earlier in the match Cena takes a DDT on exposed concrete, only to beat both Gabriel and Barrett one right after the other. This one got the fanbase rabid, and managed to piss smarks off even on a night when ''[[Bryan Danielson]] main-evented the second biggest show of the year''.
** Another is [[Michael Cole]]'s commentary during the match, specifically his anti-Bryan spiel. The moment Bryan was revealed and hits the ring to take on [[The Nexus]] with Team WWE should be a [[Crowning Moment of Awesome]] but it's tainted by Cole loudly pissing all over Danielson's heat. Are we SURE [[Jim Ross]] can't come back?
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*** 1.Taker & Foley had not too long ago come off a feud where Taker tried to kill Foley or his alter ego Mankind at King Of The Ring 98.
*** 2.Off this Foley would've essentially disregard his and Undertaker's bad blood to the point where he could convince Undertaker to form a heel stable that go and kidnap random people to either turn them into his loyal subjects or "sacrificing" whose ultimate goal was to take over WWE. How anyone thinks this revelation would've been logical is beyond me.
*** [[Vince McMahon]] was the only possible choice to be the Higher Power. It's not the first time he swerved everyone as part of his gambit just to screw Austin (think Survivor Series 1998, when Shane and The Rock, whom Vince feuded with heading into the event, were in cahoots with him the entire time). Foley wouldn't have made sense for the reasons mentioned, also the fact that his only "bad blood" with Austin was when Foley was Vince's lackey, and Austin even helped him win the WWE Championship at one point, while he had a lot more bad blood towards Vince and [[The Undertaker]]. Other fan choices including Jake Roberts (who was not only not in WWE at the time, but he was going through his drug and alcohol problems and the angle would have ended in an instant [[Role -Ending Misdemeanor]] right after the reveal probably, as well as several people who could not wrestle at the time due to injuries, such as [[Ted DiBiase]] (who, like Roberts, wasn't even in WWE at the time) and [[Shawn Michaels]], thus a feud with them wouldn't really go anywhere. It got to the point where people said they wanted it to be Brother Love, of all people. So basically they just wanted a random shocking twist for the sake of a random and shocking twist, whether it resulted in anything worthwhile or not. Vince being revealed as the Higher Power wasn't TOO shocking, but did a lot storyline wise, such as make Austin more heroic than he's been at any other time in his career when he saved Vince's daughter Stephanie from the Ministry, and it was what turned Vince from simply the [[Bad Boss]] to a [[Complete Monster]] who was willing to have his own daughter kidnapped just to screw Austin and cared more about his power and authority than his own family. So if anything it was a [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] on the fan's part who assumed that it was going to be a huge return of someone from the past, whether it made sense or not.
*** The problem with Vince being the Higher Power is his motivations: getting the belt off Austin. The Ministry had been started weeks before Austin was even slated to have a title shot. Furthermore, Austin's involvement in the feud was completely a fluke, randomly saving [[Stephanie McMahon]] in a very odd moment for Austin's character (even ''he'' looks a little confused about what he's doing). Also, ''Backlash '99'' where Austin faced the Rock with a Mc Mahon in both's corner (Shane for Rock, Vince for Austin) as a ref was a ''perfect'' moment to screw Austin over for the title if he wanted the belt off Austin that badly. So, instead, Vince opts for a needlessly complicated plot that is infinitely less assured and requires Austin acting in ways he never has before in one of the weirdest [[Xanatos Roulette|Xanatos Roulettes]] ever in pro wrestling.
*** This troper's always wondered if a person being "the Higher Power" was even needed. For most of the angle, it seemed like Undertaker was [[Hearing Voices]] and was worshipping some [[God of Evil]] inside of his own head. It made 'Taker a lot more disturbing and threatening. Making him just a Dragon for Vince came off as a bit underwhelming.
*** The hidden kicker in this is that they actually came up with what would've made the most sense as a solution as to the motivations for Vince being the Higher Power of the Corporate Ministry, by having Vince claim his own personal [[Parody Religion|Parody]] [[Religion of Evil]] called "McMahonism" where he declared himself [[A God Am I|the lord, master, and god of the entire business]] and that [[God-Emperor|everyone involved in it from fan to superstar must worship him]]. ''Except they came up with this'' '''seven years later''', ''during a feud with'' '''[[Shawn Michaels]]''' ''over Vince's own inability to move on from the'' '''[[Montreal Screwjob]]'''. In other words: [[What Could Have Been]] a full-on [[Crowning Moment of Awesome|Crowning Moment of Evil Awesome]] became one [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] and one [[Crowning Moment of Funny]] split about by seven-tenths of a full decade, both scrapped shortly after one month each and never mentioned again.
* Kane's one-day WWF title reign in 1998, where he beat Stone Cold at that year's ''King of the Ring'' to win it, only to lose it the next night against Austin on RAW. Quite why the WWE didn't deem it prudent to wait until the next PPV at least for Kane to lose the title is a continuing Wall Banger for this troper, especially since it meant that for years on end Kane would be constantly put in one shit storyline after another, and it wasn't until this year in 2010 that Kane finally got his second world title reign in the WWE.
** IIRC, it had to do with the bookers realizing they'd booked a First Blood match with a one of the competitors being a guy with a MASK on his face. Originally, Kane was supposed to job but he'd have to remove his mask for the whole gimmick to work. So they resolved to just have Kane win and Stone Cold win it back the next night.
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**** While Cole and Kaval are good examples, the reason Zack Ryder isn't used is because the vast majority of the casual fans a.k.a. 95% of WWE's fanbase, just can't take him seriously. Smarks are the only ones that want to see a legitimate push out of him, it's really, REALLY hard to see a character like Zack Ryder as anything other than a [[Jobber]], and you can't change the character because that's what made him so popular in the first place.
* [[Your Mileage May Vary|Depending on who you talk to]], some will say that one of the few tolerable parts of the "Invasion" storyline was the feud between [[Kurt Angle]] and [[Stone Cold Steve Austin]]. At ''Unforgiven 2001'', Kurt Angle wins a brilliant match with Austin to win his second world championship with the WWE. This title reign only lasted a mere 15 days, however, before he lost the title right back to Austin on RAW, despite the fact that Austin had already been carrying the title a whole six months before Angle's victory. To make matters worse, Angle then proceeded soon afterwards to join Austin in the Alliance.
* During the Kane/Undertaker 2010 feud 'Taker appeared to have been weakened since [[Wrestler/Kane (wrestling)|Kane]] left him in a comatose-like state earlier in the year. In an effort to fully regain his power he decided to bring back his urn, the urn which is held by none other than [[Paul Bearer]]. Paul, who hadn't been seen or mentioned on WWE programming in over four years, returned on a Smackdown a few weeks before the Kane/Taker rematch for the World Heavyweight title at the "Hell In A Cell". Paul's abrupt return isn't what makes this a wallbanger though. The thing that puts this in the bang-your-head-into-the-nearest-sturdy-surface category is the fact that during his last appearance Bearer was buried in concrete and left for dead by...you guessed it, [[The Undertaker]]! So after no on-screen reconciliation between the two I guess we were supposed to be surprised when Bearer sided with Kane and cost 'Taker the match.
* [[Your Mileage May Vary|Although some like it or don't mind it]], to some, WWE switching to a PG rating induced plenty of wall-related self-injuries. First, it mostly originated from a political move so Linda McMahon can more easily run for senate in Connecticut. Second, it's very easy to argue that the rating is to the detriment to the show. Why? Because it's very, very difficult to switch something to a rating it was not meant to have. If a Disney movie were to switch ratings with [[Resident Evil]], the resulting programs would almost definitely be considered terrible. A program lowering it's rating is usually much worse than raising it. This puts limitations on the product it wasn't supposed to be held back by and leads to new material that would be considered ridiculous under old circumstances and to some, idiotic under the ''current'' circumstances.
** Actually according to 24Wrestling.com WWE's shift to PG was suggested by some wrestlers in the company one of the common names being John Cena exact reason for this reason not being known. Also one thing the Fandom casually and constantly forgets is the fact that WWE originally didn't have the mature or graphic themes people constantly wet their pants over whenever they complain about how WWE shifted from the Attitude era to PG.
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*** Husky Harris, one of Mike Rotunda's sons, received the same treatment as McGillicutty, with no explanation whatsoever.
*** WWE didn't explain it, but it's pretty easy to figure out. Mike Rotunda went by Irwin R. Schyster (I.R.S.) during his time with the WWF and had the whole tax-man gimmick. He couldn't have gone with the last name "Schyster" because it doesn't fit his character at all. His full name is Windham Lawrence Rotunda and that's hard to remember, not to mention the potential [[Mondegreen]] problem with being in the same [[The Nexus|stable]] as a guy surnamed "Otunga." Lastly, "Husky Harris" is [[Meaningful Name|much easier to remember]] and associate with him.
* The Edge/Kane feud on Smackdown has involved Edge abducting [[Paul Bearer]] and proceeding to taunt Kane through a series of mind-games. Including placing a fake dummy of Bearer on a wheelchair and throwing it down a stairwell, showing videos of Bearer tied and gagged while tormenting him by throwing dodgeballs at his face, and then running over another Bearer dummy with his car, showing Paul tied up in the backseat. Now, aside from the fact that Edge is basically committing felony kidnapping on ''national television'', or that Kane hasn't informed the police. Here's the big [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]], ''Edge is the face in this angle!''
** Let's further this [[Wall Banger (Darth Wiki)|Wall Banger]] for a minute now. Kane had just come off a feud revealing and successfully completing a 15-year-long plan of vengeance against his brother [[The Undertaker]] for always trying to keep Kane underneath his shadow. Yet here when Edge is being a borderline [[Heroic Sociopath|Heroic]] [[Complete Monster|Monster]], Kane ends up staring Teddy Long in the face at least twice, Long being ''the General Manager of the show, and a man who has gotten on Edge's case for wrongdoings in the past'', yet the most he could do was demand Paul's whereabouts as if Long was just any other guy as opposed to ''the one person who could force Edge to give Paul back with the right persuasion''. The kicker? When Edge does give him Paul back, he does so from a high enough distance that the emotionally disoriented Kane thinks it's another dummy… and proceeds to push his own father off a balcony and immediately regret it. So basically Kane goes from an evil genius to a complete dumbass, and Edge becomes the evil genius as an accepted babyface. Toss in [[Rey Mysterio, Jr.]] and Alberto Del Rio to turn it into more of a free-for-all, and the end result is Edge becoming World Heavyweight Champion at TLC. ''To zero backlash.''
*** I'd say considering the fact Kane put his own brother into a vegetative state, tried to pin the blame on several other men (even going to the lengths to try and put them in a casket) who had nothing to do with it and burying his brother is more than enough reason to say that Edge doing what he did to Paul was Kane's karma coming back to bite him in the ass.
**** Well, it was really Kane's karma coming back to bite ''Paul'' in the ass. And unlike Kane, Paul had a good reason to turn on the Undertaker, who almost killed him for no reason by drowning him in cement. It just doesn't seem right to me that Kane did all of this terrible shit to other people without Paul's assistance, that Paul shows up to get some payback against the guy who nearly ''killed him'' several years earlier, and then Paul winds up being punished for everything Kane did while Kane is only [[Forced to Watch]]. It would have been a lot better if Edge had done something to Kane himself instead of to this helpless, bawling, pitiful fat guy. I mean, you could make a case that Taker deserved to get stabbed in the back and buried alive (which he always comes back from anyway, so for him it's not a big deal) after [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXQfneTBjq0 doing this].
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*** He wouldn't be the first guy to undergo an extreme personality shift after a [[Face Heel Turn]]. That part of wrestling isn't exactly logical, but it's still more logical than saying that this is the same Cena as before, that there's absolutely nothing different about him, that he's still the same tough guy he always was...and yet for some reason, he isn't ''demanding'' to throw down with The Rock. The only possible explanation is that Cena has changed, because back when [[Batista]] cost him the title he ''demanded'' a chance to fight Batista, and not wanting revenge on Rocky is completely out of character for Face Cena.
*** Building to a confrontation a year in advance isn't a precedent. Sting vs. Hogan at ''Starrcade '97'' did this and the PPV sold like hotcakes. If you were going to do it these days, Rock vs. Cena would be the way to do it and Wrestlemania 28 in Miami (the Rock's stomping grounds) is a perfect place for it. If WWE actually manages to have the patience to pull it off, this troper salutes them for this kind of long-term booking.
**** True, but that situation was different. In the case of [[Wrestler/Sting (wrestling)|Sting]], he had become demoralized and emo (before it was called emo) over how all of the people he considered friends actually believed that he had joined the nWo and treated him like he was the enemy. Even after it was revealed that the nWo had framed him in order to divide the WCW locker room, Sting was still stuck in his [[Heroic BSOD]] and [[Achilles in His Tent|walked away]]. As 1997 drew on, Sting slowly but surely managed to stop wallowing in self-pity and start thinking about getting revenge. And that led to him terrorizing the nWo for a while, which led to Starrcade. Compare that with Cena and Rocky. It would be one thing if Cena were to react like Sting, to say "You know, half of the WWE Universe hates my guts. I always knew that, but it didn't really register just how much until The Rock cost me the WWE Championship. I heard the cheers when he Rock Bottomed me and Miz pinned me. I've been fighting as hard as I can for a long time to regain that title, to be able to shout 'The Champ Is Here!' one more time. I almost made it, and then I got cheated out of another reign thanks to The Rock. And all of you thought that was the greatest thing ever. Well, I'm not blind. When I feuded with Randy Orton, I heard all of you out there chanting "RKO" just because you wanted to see somebody--anybody--kick my ass. And now that I've been battling Miz, I hear you cheering for him. And when Rocky talks trash to me, when Rocky actually attacks me, you cheer for Rocky. I get the hint, WWE Universe. I see the writing on the wall. I...QUIT!" Followed by Cena walking away, and having vignettes of people in the WWE such as [[Jim Ross]] and [[Jerry Lawler]] and even Randy Orton trying to convince him to come back, with him saying no each time. Until finally, something happened to set Cena's blood boiling and he came charging back to [[Big Damn Heroes|put a stop to something really horrible]], possibly involving a heel Rock. But that's not what we've got. Cena isn't demoralized at all. Neither is Rocky. There's no reason to wait.
**** Uh yeah there is. They want their match to be on the biggest stage of all. Wrestlemania. They say so. Repeatedly. Just doing it on a Monday Night Raw wouldn't be enough for them.
***** But that makes no sense. I mean, it makes sense to not give the match away for free by having it on Raw, but there's no logical reason not to book it for the next PPV. If you're really angry at a guy, so angry that you want to punch him, and you challenge him to a fight, how do you think you would react if he said "Sure I'll fight you, but you'll have to wait a year." And apart from the reasons why this is stupid in-storyline, there are several things that could happen in [[Real Life]] between now and then: Cena could die (this is pro wrestling, after all), Rocky could die (he's out of the business, but he could still get in a car crash or something), Cena could suffer a career-ending injury because of one botched move like what happened to [[Bret Hart]], WWE might lose fans between now and then resulting in fewer PPV buys than if they booked Cena/Rock at "Extreme Rules", etc. The people who want to see Rock vs. Cena won't care what the name of the PPV is. All they'll care about is that they're seeing Rock vs. Cena. That match is going to ''make'' whatever PPV it happens on important. That's how it works: the matches are what make [[Wrestlemania]] important, not the other way around. [[Michael Cole]] vs. [[Jerry Lawler]] was not any more watchable or entertaining because it happened on "the grandest stage of them all".
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** Let's not forget that during Triple H's opening promo, he buried the entire roster by stating that he's wrestled most of the talent that walked out and could get a better match out of a broomstick. This probably wouldn't have been so bad if it weren't for the fact that it was ''90% of the roster'' that he was talking about!
* The handling of the mask vs mask match between the two Sin Caras on Smackdown 10/21/11 in Mexico City. It makes sense that they hold a Lucha de Apuestas in Mexico where the crowd would be more into it. However, they could have given the feud some importance if they actually held it on the upcoming PPV on the 23rd. Thirdly, promoting it weeks in advance would have drawn more money whether they did it on Smackdown (which wasn't quite sold out) or on the Vengeance PPV (which needed as much help as possible to draw money due to being only two weeks away from the previous PPV, Hell in a Cell).
* Hunico. Ugh... The man himself is a talented wrestler, and his old Sin Cara Negro angle was one of the more interesting things going on in the WWE at the time. After he gets unmasked, however, he just suffers the most crippling [[Character Derailment]] - suddenly, he's a mexican gangster (as if to say the only things mexican wrestlers can be are luchadors or gang-members, and if they aren't one, they have to be the other) who doesn't even wear ring-gear any more, fights in street clothes (which is a). pointless, and b). just completely impractical) and, worst of all, ''his wrestling style is completely changed''! He's apparently no longer allowed to use his high-flying manouvers, and has instead switched to a completely generic mat-based style! Why!? Bah gawd!
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