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** The overall plot of ''Portrait of Ruin'' is highly annoying. Monster ass-pulls and [[Retcon]] about {{spoiler|the Vampire Killer whip for some reason devouring lifeforce - considering the ORIGINS of it in ''Lament of Innocence'', what in the blue Jesus cookies is that about? WHY would it do this? Also, the bizarre and needless redesign of Eric Lecarde, the fact that he and Johnny/Jon Morris die offscreen, and that absurd Nostradamus business...}}Igarashi, what the hell!?
** The overall plot of ''Portrait of Ruin'' is highly annoying. Monster ass-pulls and [[Retcon]] about {{spoiler|the Vampire Killer whip for some reason devouring lifeforce - considering the ORIGINS of it in ''Lament of Innocence'', what in the blue Jesus cookies is that about? WHY would it do this? Also, the bizarre and needless redesign of Eric Lecarde, the fact that he and Johnny/Jon Morris die offscreen, and that absurd Nostradamus business...}}Igarashi, what the hell!?
*** Speaking of that, {{spoiler|why didn't John tell his son about the drawbacks of the whip? Jonathan might not have been as resentful of him if he did. But no, [[Cannot Spit It Out|he opted to keep Jonathan]] [[Locked Out of the Loop]], and made his best friend promise to do the same. What the hell John?!}}
*** Speaking of that, {{spoiler|why didn't John tell his son about the drawbacks of the whip? Jonathan might not have been as resentful of him if he did. But no, [[Cannot Spit It Out|he opted to keep Jonathan]] [[Locked Out of the Loop]], and made his best friend promise to do the same. What the hell John?!}}
** Those radio plays. They are worse than bad fanfiction. The veteran voice cast is gone, replaced by a new crew who range from decent-if-strange (Mamoru 'Riku' Miyamoto as Alucard?) to very poor (everyone else, which is shocking because most of them are usually good). Richter is wangsty, Maria is utterly Chickified and reduced to a [[Distressed Damsel]], Alucard's navel gazing is tedious in the extreme, and once again the rules of the Vampire Killer are broken as it starts reacting to something that is not a vampire. The new characters add nothing whatsoever to the story, too. Honestly, the ''P Achi Slot'' games have better stories than this. What exactly went wrong here?
** Those radio plays. They are worse than bad fanfiction. The veteran voice cast is gone, replaced by a new crew who range from decent-if-strange (Mamoru 'Riku' Miyamoto as Alucard?) to very poor (everyone else, which is shocking because most of them are usually good). Richter is wangsty, Maria is utterly Chickified and reduced to a [[Damsel in Distress]], Alucard's navel gazing is tedious in the extreme, and once again the rules of the Vampire Killer are broken as it starts reacting to something that is not a vampire. The new characters add nothing whatsoever to the story, too. Honestly, the ''P Achi Slot'' games have better stories than this. What exactly went wrong here?
* ''[[Silver Surfer (video game)|Silver Surfer]]'' is [[Nintendo Hard|very difficult]], given the combination of ridiculous enemies, [[Bullet Hell]], [[Everything Trying to Kill You]], you being a [[One-Hit-Point Wonder]], and everything else actually being tougher than you. However, you're playing the ''Silver Surfer'', a character whose powerset includes [[Nigh Invulnerability]]. And yet, if you so much as graze a ''wall'', [[Deadly Walls|you die]], even though you're not even going that fast. "You" means Silver Surfer or ''any part of his surfboard''. That's right, a Wall Banger that actually involves ''banging into a wall''.
* ''[[Silver Surfer (video game)|Silver Surfer]]'' is [[Nintendo Hard|very difficult]], given the combination of ridiculous enemies, [[Bullet Hell]], [[Everything Trying to Kill You]], you being a [[One-Hit-Point Wonder]], and everything else actually being tougher than you. However, you're playing the ''Silver Surfer'', a character whose powerset includes [[Nigh Invulnerability]]. And yet, if you so much as graze a ''wall'', [[Deadly Walls|you die]], even though you're not even going that fast. "You" means Silver Surfer or ''any part of his surfboard''. That's right, a Wall Banger that actually involves ''banging into a wall''.
** The reason this is a wall banger is the disconnect of having one of the toughest beings in the [[Marvel Universe]] getting killed by a rubber ducky (or anything else for that matter).
** The reason this is a wall banger is the disconnect of having one of the toughest beings in the [[Marvel Universe]] getting killed by a rubber ducky (or anything else for that matter).
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* Before the first battle with the Steel Witch in ''[[Luminous Arc]]'', it's revealed she has one of the [[MacGuffin|Lapistier]] in her body. After the battle, rather than finishing her off and claiming the Lapistier, every decides to leave her there and make tracks. This is reasonable for the main party, being the [[Neutral Good]] heroes and all. Vanessa, on the other hand, explicitly joined you for that class alone as an [[Enemy Mine]], explicitly said she'll raise hell in her independent quest for the Lapistier and get them whatever the cost, and has already shown herself to be more than impulsive and pragmatic enough to rip the stone out of her chest, leaving her with no excuse and falling squarely into this trope.
* Before the first battle with the Steel Witch in ''[[Luminous Arc]]'', it's revealed she has one of the [[MacGuffin|Lapistier]] in her body. After the battle, rather than finishing her off and claiming the Lapistier, every decides to leave her there and make tracks. This is reasonable for the main party, being the [[Neutral Good]] heroes and all. Vanessa, on the other hand, explicitly joined you for that class alone as an [[Enemy Mine]], explicitly said she'll raise hell in her independent quest for the Lapistier and get them whatever the cost, and has already shown herself to be more than impulsive and pragmatic enough to rip the stone out of her chest, leaving her with no excuse and falling squarely into this trope.
* The ''[[Splatterhouse]]'' remake, although a very solid brawler, has one glaring flaw. ''The ending''. {{spoiler|The [[Big Bad]] is defeated [[Cutscene Boss|in a cutscene]], and the "final battle" is literally nothing but a ludicrously difficult [[Escort Mission]]. On the plus side, there's a blatant [[Sequel Hook]], so at least there's hope that the next installment won't end on such an [[Anticlimax]].}}
* The ''[[Splatterhouse]]'' remake, although a very solid brawler, has one glaring flaw. ''The ending''. {{spoiler|The [[Big Bad]] is defeated [[Cutscene Boss|in a cutscene]], and the "final battle" is literally nothing but a ludicrously difficult [[Escort Mission]]. On the plus side, there's a blatant [[Sequel Hook]], so at least there's hope that the next installment won't end on such an [[Anticlimax]].}}
* ''[[Mario Tennis]]'' has a tournament mode which allows you to play Singles or Doubles. If you play in Doubles, you get a computer player as a partner. In a game that allows up to 4 players in Exhibition Mode, why, why would they have a Doubles Tourney mode and not let you play it co-operatively with another player? And then for the [[Nintendo Gamecube]] version, they did it again!
* ''[[Mario Tennis]]'' has a tournament mode which allows you to play Singles or Doubles. If you play in Doubles, you get a computer player as a partner. In a game that allows up to 4 players in Exhibition Mode, why, why would they have a Doubles Tourney mode and not let you play it co-operatively with another player? And then for the [[Nintendo GameCube]] version, they did it again!
* In ''[[DC Universe Online]] '', if you create a hero character aligned with [[Wonder Woman]], you'll meet and work with [[Zatanna]]. If you have any knowledge of her character, you'll take it for granted that she'll be shouting stuff like [[Identity Crisis|"namtaB tegrof"]] or "wolb tihs pu!" But for whatever reason (and even though Oracle tells you about her unique spellcasting method before you meet her), all of her lines are delivered straight: "heal ally," "drain Faust," etc.
* In ''[[DC Universe Online]] '', if you create a hero character aligned with [[Wonder Woman]], you'll meet and work with [[Zatanna]]. If you have any knowledge of her character, you'll take it for granted that she'll be shouting stuff like [[Identity Crisis|"namtaB tegrof"]] or "wolb tihs pu!" But for whatever reason (and even though Oracle tells you about her unique spellcasting method before you meet her), all of her lines are delivered straight: "heal ally," "drain Faust," etc.
** What's incredibly weird is that, according to [http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0035273/ IMDB], she's voiced by [[Jennifer Hale]], who played Zatanna in ''[[Justice League (animation)|Justice League Unlimited]]'' and did the sdrawkcab gnitsaclleps just fine.
** What's incredibly weird is that, according to [http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0035273/ IMDB], she's voiced by [[Jennifer Hale]], who played Zatanna in ''[[Justice League (animation)|Justice League Unlimited]]'' and did the sdrawkcab gnitsaclleps just fine.
* If you play through seventh ''[[Touhou]]'' game, ''Perfect Cherry Blossom'', as Marisa, you will come across a big gate that {{spoiler|serves as Hakugyokurou's gate to the world of the living}} and [http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Cherry_Blossom/Translation/Marisa%27s_Scenario#Stage_4 will be confronted by] the Prismriver Sisters. Marisa will insist that they open the gate for her, which leads to the fight. Guess what happens afterwards? Apparently, {{spoiler|the gate is just a decoration, and you just need to fly over it}}, which effectively defeats the point of fighting them.
* If you play through seventh ''[[Touhou]]'' game, ''Perfect Cherry Blossom'', as Marisa, you will come across a big gate that {{spoiler|serves as Hakugyokurou's gate to the world of the living}} and [http://en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/Perfect_Cherry_Blossom/Translation/Marisa%27s_Scenario#Stage_4 will be confronted by] the Prismriver Sisters. Marisa will insist that they open the gate for her, which leads to the fight. Guess what happens afterwards? Apparently, {{spoiler|the gate is just a decoration, and you just need to fly over it}}, which effectively defeats the point of fighting them.
** Marisa does say "...Oh." afterwards, which to this troper carried the connotation of a [[Face Palm]] - this was a pretty silly moment for Marisa too. [[Poor Communication Kills]].
** Marisa does say "...Oh." afterwards, which to this troper carried the connotation of a [[Face Palm]] - this was a pretty silly moment for Marisa too. [[Poor Communication Kills]].
* ''[[Valkyria Chronicles]]''. Faldio's entire plotline is a big, Anvilicious showcase for the game's anti-war Aesops, specifically that escalation and the pursuit of military power through [[WM Ds]] is wrong, but when you actually look at the events of the war, ''he was absolutely right''. The fact that he {{spoiler|shot Alicia to awaken her powers}} is the ''only'' reason Gallia wasn't wiped off the map by Selvaria. If he had only been imprisoned for it, because regardless of his reasoning, he did commit treason, that would have been fine. But no, he {{spoiler|escapes from prison}} just long enough to ''apologize and then die as an apology'' in a ''completely needless'' [[Stupid Sacrifice]], and Selvaria obliterates all the people he saved in her ''own'' [[Stupid Sacrifice]].
* ''[[Valkyria Chronicles]]''. Faldio's entire plotline is a big, Anvilicious showcase for the game's anti-war Aesops, specifically that escalation and the pursuit of military power through WMDs is wrong, but when you actually look at the events of the war, ''he was absolutely right''. The fact that he {{spoiler|shot Alicia to awaken her powers}} is the ''only'' reason Gallia wasn't wiped off the map by Selvaria. If he had only been imprisoned for it, because regardless of his reasoning, he did commit treason, that would have been fine. But no, he {{spoiler|escapes from prison}} just long enough to ''apologize and then die as an apology'' in a ''completely needless'' [[Stupid Sacrifice]], and Selvaria obliterates all the people he saved in her ''own'' [[Stupid Sacrifice]].
* In ''[[Starcraft II]]'' The Tosh-Nova decision in New Folsom. Letting [[Mary Sue|Nova]] be a choice between the two people, despite her clear affiliation with the [[Big Bad]]. As Tosh best states, "She won't even join you." [[Fan Wank|Ghosts being "classic"]] and Nova being attractive cannot possibly be justifiable reasons for such possible [[Character Derailment]] of Raynor, who spent the last two Covert Missions ''helping'' Tosh anyway to get funding for more troops and upgrades to already-attained schematics to put a blow to Mengsk in the long run. The irony in all this is Tosh himself does not prove to Raynor any distrust, and there is nothing which supports Nova in the campaign...''at all''. Tosh even explains the inhabitants of New Folsom to be ''political prisoners''.
* In ''[[Starcraft II]]'' The Tosh-Nova decision in New Folsom. Letting [[Mary Sue|Nova]] be a choice between the two people, despite her clear affiliation with the [[Big Bad]]. As Tosh best states, "She won't even join you." [[Fan Wank|Ghosts being "classic"]] and Nova being attractive cannot possibly be justifiable reasons for such possible [[Character Derailment]] of Raynor, who spent the last two Covert Missions ''helping'' Tosh anyway to get funding for more troops and upgrades to already-attained schematics to put a blow to Mengsk in the long run. The irony in all this is Tosh himself does not prove to Raynor any distrust, and there is nothing which supports Nova in the campaign...''at all''. Tosh even explains the inhabitants of New Folsom to be ''political prisoners''.
** The way [[Warrior Poet|Zeratul]], one of the wisest charachters of the first game, is reduced to an utter moron. Upon seing a ghostly, translucent figure of [[Heroic Sacrifice|Tassadar]], that announces: "I have come to you from beyond this world", all he can utter is: "But you are dead!" Well, DUH! Another time he engages a Protoss-Zerg Hybrid and incredulously inquires about who could possibly create such monstrosity, despite the fact he met said creator in person and heard his confession!
** The way [[Warrior Poet|Zeratul]], one of the wisest charachters of the first game, is reduced to an utter moron. Upon seing a ghostly, translucent figure of [[Heroic Sacrifice|Tassadar]], that announces: "I have come to you from beyond this world", all he can utter is: "But you are dead!" Well, DUH! Another time he engages a Protoss-Zerg Hybrid and incredulously inquires about who could possibly create such monstrosity, despite the fact he met said creator in person and heard his confession!
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* ''[[Resident Evil 2]]'': By the start of the game the zombie apocalypse is roughly two days old, the Police/Army/Umbrella mercenaries have been nearly completely wiped out, half the city is on fire, and apparently the news of the situation has spread far enough for the government to consider ''nuking the city.'' This is where we find a comically oblivious truck driver who acts in complete shock when a guy bites into his bicep. [[Too Dumb to Live|Where and what has he been doing for the last few days... were the thick plumes of smoke and the blood soaked streets not enough of a clue something big was going down?]]
* ''[[Resident Evil 2]]'': By the start of the game the zombie apocalypse is roughly two days old, the Police/Army/Umbrella mercenaries have been nearly completely wiped out, half the city is on fire, and apparently the news of the situation has spread far enough for the government to consider ''nuking the city.'' This is where we find a comically oblivious truck driver who acts in complete shock when a guy bites into his bicep. [[Too Dumb to Live|Where and what has he been doing for the last few days... were the thick plumes of smoke and the blood soaked streets not enough of a clue something big was going down?]]
** The extent of the destruction is largely only depicted in the sequels to RE2, but it still seems very odd that --as the gun shop owner can attest-- no one noticed ''anything'' amiss until the streets were completely overrun with zombies.
** The extent of the destruction is largely only depicted in the sequels to RE2, but it still seems very odd that --as the gun shop owner can attest-- no one noticed ''anything'' amiss until the streets were completely overrun with zombies.
* ''[[Saints Row: The Third|Saints Row the Third]]:'' As well as massive parts of [[Hype Backlash]], [[Badass Decay]], [[Sequelitis]], [[Show, Don't Tell]], [[Informed Attribute]], overdose of [[Bottom of the Barrel Joke]]-type gags, and [[Took a Level In Jerkass]] along with a helping of [[Obvious Beta]] involving the story, the game really hits the wall in the second last level. After pissing off both [[Smug Snake|Killbane]] and [[He Who Fights Monsters|Cyrus Temple]], their resulting factions get into an all out war on the streets. Upon dealing with it to the best of your abilities {{spoiler|[[The Scrappy|Angel]] calls you up to inform you that Killbane is leaving. Wait, but didn't you already humiliate him and destroy his reputation? Angel said just a short while ago that killing him isn't needed. So why do we have to...Wait, now we just got a call from Maria Hill-I mean, [[Punny Name|Kia]], Temple's second in command. She tells you her master plan to frame the Saints as Domestic Terrorists by blowing up a monument along with a hell load of Saints, including [[Character Derailment|Shaundi]]. Wait, and she decided to call you while you still have time to stop her? So, you have to choose: Kill the man you've already broke along with the game's biggest scrappy, or stop Kia and save the girl who ''became'' a scrappy during the plot. If you chose ending A, the boss will have a quick time [[Curb Stomp Battle]] instead of a real fight, making the final confrontation incredibly boring. Then, once he's beat, he just waits around until the statue is blown up instead of getting off his ass and trying to postpone the attack. If you chose Ending B, you get a [[Carbon Copy]] of the Veteran Child bossfight from the last game, and the Saints go on to learn nothing from their experience and return to being media whores.}} Thankfully each one leads to a different but awesome final level, this along with various other points in the story is enough to make fans of the previous installment regret buying this game.
* ''[[Saints Row: The Third|Saints Row the Third]]:'' As well as massive parts of [[Hype Backlash]], [[Badass Decay]], [[Sequelitis]], [[Show, Don't Tell]], [[Informed Attribute]], overdose of [[Bottom of the Barrel Joke]]-type gags, and [[Took a Level in Jerkass]] along with a helping of [[Obvious Beta]] involving the story, the game really hits the wall in the second last level. After pissing off both [[Smug Snake|Killbane]] and [[He Who Fights Monsters|Cyrus Temple]], their resulting factions get into an all out war on the streets. Upon dealing with it to the best of your abilities {{spoiler|[[The Scrappy|Angel]] calls you up to inform you that Killbane is leaving. Wait, but didn't you already humiliate him and destroy his reputation? Angel said just a short while ago that killing him isn't needed. So why do we have to...Wait, now we just got a call from Maria Hill-I mean, [[Punny Name|Kia]], Temple's second in command. She tells you her master plan to frame the Saints as Domestic Terrorists by blowing up a monument along with a hell load of Saints, including [[Character Derailment|Shaundi]]. Wait, and she decided to call you while you still have time to stop her? So, you have to choose: Kill the man you've already broke along with the game's biggest scrappy, or stop Kia and save the girl who ''became'' a scrappy during the plot. If you chose ending A, the boss will have a quick time [[Curb Stomp Battle]] instead of a real fight, making the final confrontation incredibly boring. Then, once he's beat, he just waits around until the statue is blown up instead of getting off his ass and trying to postpone the attack. If you chose Ending B, you get a [[Carbon Copy]] of the Veteran Child bossfight from the last game, and the Saints go on to learn nothing from their experience and return to being media whores.}} Thankfully each one leads to a different but awesome final level, this along with various other points in the story is enough to make fans of the previous installment regret buying this game.
* In ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword|The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword]]'', just before your {{spoiler|second fight with Ghirahim, he shows Link a painting that depicts two Gates of Time; one that Impa destroyed in Lanaryu Desert, and other in the Sacred Grove that you're trying to activate, which Ghirahim is trying to find. While Link never reveals its location, he doesn't bother to tell the Priestess that Ghirahim is looking for the gate, which he not only eventually finds, but uses it to drag Zelda to the past and revive his master, Demise, setting up the curse of Ganon's various appearances throughout the series. While there have been moments in the franchise where the heroes or the villains have had their plans thwarted by the [[Idiot Ball]], this one arguably takes the cake.}}
* In ''[[The Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword|The Legend of Zelda Skyward Sword]]'', just before your {{spoiler|second fight with Ghirahim, he shows Link a painting that depicts two Gates of Time; one that Impa destroyed in Lanaryu Desert, and other in the Sacred Grove that you're trying to activate, which Ghirahim is trying to find. While Link never reveals its location, he doesn't bother to tell the Priestess that Ghirahim is looking for the gate, which he not only eventually finds, but uses it to drag Zelda to the past and revive his master, Demise, setting up the curse of Ganon's various appearances throughout the series. While there have been moments in the franchise where the heroes or the villains have had their plans thwarted by the [[Idiot Ball]], this one arguably takes the cake.}}
* ''[[Max Payne 3]]'' contains many instances, but one that stands out in particular is when Max finally gets to the location where the wife of his {{spoiler|now dead}} employer is being held hostage, along with another girl he is sworn to protect. You'd expect for his to quietly take down them hostage-takers quietly, or at the very least, wait to they leave. What does Max do? {{spoiler|He charges on in loudly proclaiming his entrance, all in front of ''about a dozen enemies''. Not surprisingly, the wife gets killed}}. At this point, it is hard to buy Max as anything but an incompetent buffoon.
* ''[[Max Payne 3]]'' contains many instances, but one that stands out in particular is when Max finally gets to the location where the wife of his {{spoiler|now dead}} employer is being held hostage, along with another girl he is sworn to protect. You'd expect for his to quietly take down them hostage-takers quietly, or at the very least, wait to they leave. What does Max do? {{spoiler|He charges on in loudly proclaiming his entrance, all in front of ''about a dozen enemies''. Not surprisingly, the wife gets killed}}. At this point, it is hard to buy Max as anything but an incompetent buffoon.